The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

I know we have a rule against calling characters "lolis" on this website, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't extend to cutting every page of a work that uses the term in-universe.

edited 12th Aug '12 9:35:48 AM by Catbert

Probable reasoning: Loli + Ecchi = potential pedobait.

Well, we already passed something that got flagged for the misuse of the word 'loli.' My Girlfriend Is The President was a pretty easy angel from what I recall so this shouldn't be much harder to resolve.

Ultimate Girls, from an "Is it art?" perspective, is junk. Pure junk.

But it's definitely not pedo-pandering at all. All three heroines are in their equivalent of highschool, and even the very short one's acknowledged as a teenager, IIRC.

It is very borderline, though, what with Barbie Doll Anatomy nakedness (at least for the broadcast versions I could find), the premise itself, and how hard it's trying to go the Refuge in Audacity route...but it also passes the "not pornographic" test. I've heard the DVD versions added more, but I'm not about to check it out myself.

...And as far as the "loli" thing goes, I think that series uses it right there in-universe, so...yeah. Kinda like what Arha said.

edited 12th Aug '12 10:15:18 AM by Raidouthe21st

Fair enough. With this in mind, I gave this work the third angelhead.

And with that, we're now down to just 26 works/tropes. Good show, everyone.

From what I can find out, the DVD version just adds nipples, which doesn't seem like it should be that big a deal. I haven't actually watched the show though.

Calling things madness ain't helping. Cut it out. There's already enough vitriol flying.

What he said. This ain't the thread for that sort of discussion; it'd be more fitting for OTC, anyway.

So then, why was Ultimate Girls given a devil vote?

I gave my reasons back here. It's a judgment call, and one opting to err on the side of caution.

For context on those remarks, see also here.

edited 12th Aug '12 12:04:27 PM by tdgoodrich1

Well, I didn't vote for it yet...

edited 12th Aug '12 11:55:58 AM by Komodin

Giving Retarded Animal Babies a third angel. It's pretty clear that it aims to shock, not to titillate.

Break out the good whiskey, then folks. We're down to one page. Time to celebrate.

Great. 25 to go. What do we talk about now? Finish up Ultimate Girls?

I'm inclined to think that all the P5 members should find an episode or two of Ultimate Girls and judge for themselves, given that it has one devil vote already.

edited 12th Aug '12 1:32:14 PM by Catbert

Yume Miru Kusuri should be pretty easy to decide upon. After thinking about it, whether or not the sex scenes are meant to be sexy or not is probably irrelevant. The only question is whether this girl◊ looks too young.

Taking into account the artstyle of other girls◊ and I suppose she's borderline rather than definitely too young. Which side of that border she falls on is not up to me to judge, however. That said, I'm probably leaning devil.

edited 12th Aug '12 1:48:49 PM by Arha

Zapped Tropers.Kila. Misclick, presumably.

I have a more general policy question:

I know that we are generally supposed to namespace stuff according to the original medium, so for example something that came out first as a Light Novel is supposed to be namespaced as such even if almost all the article is describing the Anime.

However, supposing I want to make a work page for a manga series that is based on an eroge. The manga itself is completely non-sexual (not even ecchi).

Can I make the page solely about the manga and namespaced for Manga and is solely about the manga, without having to worry about whether or not it might one day be judged by the content of the eroge game, which I know practically nothing about and I have no idea whether the game would pass our standards?

Yes, although the page might be reviewed and put under a VN examples lockout if it turns out to be policy-violating.

Ask Wiki Talk, I think. Hypotheticals aren't relevant to the discussion at hand.

So, here's some stuff I think are easy passes.

• Goshuushou-sama Ninomiya-kun - It's clean. See here.
• Green Green - The OVA and 18+ version of the VN aren't safe, but TV anime and later versions of the VN are. See here and here.
• Silver Chaos 2: Artificial Mermaid - I looked at this way back. It's not pornographic enough to be cut for that, and no characters look young enough to be cut for pedo either. See also here and here.
• Suika - The 18+ VN and hentai OVA aren't safe, but the later versions of the VN are fine. Also see here.
• Druuna: Morbus Gravis - It's horrible, but not porn.

edited 12th Aug '12 2:12:31 PM by KuroBaraHime

Yeah, Silver Chaos 2 is fine. I checked the cg set for that one.

I don't want to flag these yet, but the flowing came up as things that might need to be flagged, either because our article describes it as porn or other sources like Wikipedia or the Anime News Network class them as such.

• Kizuna
• Hatsu Inu
• Film.Pirates XXX

Anyone know anything about these, and if they need to be reviewed?

Edit PS: I removed several that I seem to have put on the list by mistake. Looking again at the sources I was using shows that it is not porn.

edited 12th Aug '12 2:43:11 PM by Catbert

Pretty sure Hatsu Inu was flagged at one point. It's porn.

Right, Hatsu Inu was another that disappeared off the list for some reason.