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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#5226: Jun 12th 2012 at 10:51:49 PM

I think the logic is that since we allow non-pornographic video games held together with an Excuse Plot (ex. Super Mario Bros) to be troped we allow pornographic video games with substantial gameplay for the same reason. Unless there's pedo-pandering there's no reason that the video game aspects of the work can't be documented.

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Morganite Something strange... from Dynamis - Firefly Alley Since: May, 2012
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#5227: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:04:09 PM

I wasn't sure there was an actual policy to that effect or not. Variable Geo was appealed on that basis, but there hasn't been any action on it that I'm aware of. (Also an argument that's been made for Eiyuu x Maou, I think.)

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#5228: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:09:32 PM

Actually, Variable Geo was appealed because it has non-pornographic games and anime.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#5229: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:09:55 PM

That depends if there's a Bleached Underpants or non-porny version. We have the regular Qix, so it's covered for the other series.

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Morganite Something strange... from Dynamis - Firefly Alley Since: May, 2012
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#5230: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:27:54 PM

@Kuro Bara Hime: I thought I'd seen both arguments made. `.`

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#5231: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:29:29 PM

Maybe, but that there's non-pornographic stuff was the main argument I saw.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#5232: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:29:57 PM

I think he/she might mean that it was successfully appealed and kept due to the non-game versions.

edited 12th Jun '12 11:30:13 PM by Hydronix

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#5233: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:33:56 PM

Now I'm not really sure what any of us are talking about.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#5234: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:35:55 PM

I was referring to Variable Geo.

But it appears it never got restored. Sorry about that. I confused myself too. [lol]

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Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#5235: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:36:06 PM

I know I'm going to get a ton of flak for even mentioning something so innocuous, but Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk 2 is perfectly fine, right?

-sees page image-

edited 12th Jun '12 11:36:15 PM by Komodin

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5236: Jun 12th 2012 at 11:56:34 PM

Unrelated but I've doomed the works that are in the "resolved, cut needed" queue.

There are also three "resolved, keep" items there.

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GraySloth Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#5237: Jun 13th 2012 at 12:59:26 AM

Quick humorous aside, I was going for midnight snack and I suddenly realized the irony to all of these Google incidences is that the number one tool for looking for porn, by far, is in fact Google. In my personal experience, being a child of the Internet, I don't believe I've ever seen porn without the help of Google.  *

[down]Fear not, being an asexual I don't do This And That and to me watching porn is about is entertaining as watching someone eat, though some people are in that.

edited 13th Jun '12 1:20:55 AM by GraySloth

NineThePuma Since: Feb, 2011
#5238: Jun 13th 2012 at 1:05:05 AM

Am I the only one who thought "Midnight Snack" was an Unusual Euphemism?

edited 13th Jun '12 1:05:17 AM by NineThePuma

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#5239: Jun 13th 2012 at 8:52:33 AM

Re: Uwakoi

Not a whole lot of info on this one so probably just gonna have to skip the preliminary report.

Chapter 1:

Not much to report until the very last page of the chapter which featured a girl (approx. high school age) lying on the ground with her shirt open. Also an eyecatch of sorts featuring another girl in a transparent swimsuit.

Chapter 2:

Some nudity, and opens with implied sex between two highschoolers.

Chapter 3:

Full-page nude spread, as well as some partial nudity beforehand. Also some implied sex between highschoolers. Looking over the policies things are probably wiki-safe so far with cleaning if necessary.

Chapter 4:

More nudity than previous chapters. Generally speaking each chapter so far has been more explicit than the previous. Also explicit on-panel sex between highschoolers for purposes of titillation.

Chapter 5:

Clean, oddly. Not even any nudity.

Chapter 6: Long-haired girl gives guy a handjob on panel. Penis is censored out.

Chapter 7: A fairly explicit bath scene featuring both of the girls being sexualized. Also more explicit on-panel sex.

Verdict: Cutlist

Pro:

  • No explicit depiction of genitals
  • All characters being sexualized are high-school age

Con:

  • Nudity in damn near every chapter
  • Explicit sexual acts in three chapters, implied in two more
  • Seinen demographic

If I had stopped reading at three chapters I probably would have given this one a "Keep but clean" verdict but given that there is on-panel sex scenes lasting multiple pages each, I don't think that the guidelines allow this.

[down] and [down][down] Thanks, Septimus and Kuro. Added in.

edited 13th Jun '12 10:03:22 AM by tdgoodrich1

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5240: Jun 13th 2012 at 9:40:54 AM

[up]Google brings up Seinen as a dem. From mangahere, dm5-com and mmangako.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#5241: Jun 13th 2012 at 9:47:18 AM

It ran in Monthly Young King which is indeed Seinen. Somewhat ironically, any magazine with Young in the title is almost guaranteed to be Seinen.

lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
Tsundere pet.
#5242: Jun 13th 2012 at 10:54:57 AM

[up][up][up] "given that there is on-panel sex scenes lasting multiple pages each, I don't think that the guidelines allow this."

That as a standard would cut a vast amount of stuff including damn near every romance novel published since 1975. (And I don't think that is the standard, unless things have changed recently.) I don't know anything about it, but our page describes it as ecchi, which sounds suspicious; is the work as a whole focused on delivering sexual content?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5243: Jun 13th 2012 at 10:56:04 AM

[up]These sex scenes only matter if they are the only thing in the work or if they involve children.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#5244: Jun 13th 2012 at 10:58:34 AM

Uwakoi is basically Aki Sora 2.0; same author, same artstyle, same content, etc.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#5245: Jun 13th 2012 at 11:09:37 AM

Doesn't seem like it has the incest or pseudo-shota content of Aki Sora though.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#5246: Jun 13th 2012 at 11:16:35 AM

Well true it doesn't. However the disposition says that Aki Sora was cut for being porn, and Uwakoi does little to nothing to be any safer than its predecessor in that area.

edited 13th Jun '12 11:16:55 AM by Spirit

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#5249: Jun 13th 2012 at 11:24:30 AM

[up]baka-updates calls it seinen.

And gis shows a lot of boobs.

edited 13th Jun '12 11:25:07 AM by Shadis

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#5250: Jun 13th 2012 at 11:24:46 AM

tdgoodrich 1 just did a write-up of what they saw in it.


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