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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#851: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:42:10 PM

This was on OK K.O.'s Trivia page:

While the note should definitely be cut, I'm not sure about the entry itself.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#852: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:58:09 PM

[up] That's blatantly shoehorned in complaining. Just kill it with fire.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#853: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:29:44 PM

[up] Done.

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#854: Aug 19th 2017 at 4:42:25 PM

I'm sure this is complaining, but I wanted a second opinion before I wipe it off YMMV.Teen Titans Go.

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ElloMe Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#855: Aug 19th 2017 at 7:00:00 PM

[up] That is definitely complaining. Cut.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#856: Aug 19th 2017 at 7:49:09 PM

Both complaining edits were done by the same user, Nwolfman. Doubt it much means anything, but there could be other complainy edits to check for.

undeadfun Since: Dec, 2016
#857: Aug 22nd 2017 at 3:59:51 PM

The entry for Cracked in the Web Original section of Tautological Templar is entirely bashing employees there. There's no actual criticism, it's just accusations and insults.

Under Cracked's Broken Base section on its YMMV page the part about Luke Mc Kinney and J. F. Sargent are attacks on them that are entirely personal. No evidence was provided, it was just bashing. The buzzwords used indicate that the person who wrote that entry likely has it out for feminists.

Under Cracked's Don't Shoot the Message section on its YMMV page it makes the allegation that any criticism is "shouted down."

edited 22nd Aug '17 4:00:19 PM by undeadfun

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#858: Aug 22nd 2017 at 4:47:33 PM

Would this count as complaining (on AdoredByTheNetwork.Teen Titans Go)?

  • (which is quite often, as this show's extensive reruns puts many shows into long hiatuses)

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#859: Aug 22nd 2017 at 4:55:53 PM

It's a fairly accurate edit.

I question if the page itself might need looking at, though.

edited 22nd Aug '17 5:09:32 PM by Irene

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#860: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:17:32 PM

I haven't really seen any arguments yet for why that even needs to be a subpage besides complaining.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#861: Aug 22nd 2017 at 7:43:04 PM

People have developed a nasty habit for making subpages when a single trope has "too many" entries under it.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#862: Aug 22nd 2017 at 7:56:49 PM

That's a legit reason for a page split, actually. Problem is it should be more of a consensus.

That said, this should not be that long. It's blatant complaining. I do agree that it's a valid usage of the trope, but we need to figure out which ones to bother with and put that on the proper subpage. If it has that many, it sounds like they're using the trope just to complain. Perhaps check if there's other subpages of Adored By The Network?

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#863: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:06:53 PM

There are other subpages for Adored by the Network, but none of them cover a single work. They are all umbrella pages containing examples from multiple works under a single group (e.g. Disney).

I seriously doubt an entire page is strictly necessary for Go!. You could probably condense all of the actually pertinent information into 2 or 3 bullets.

edited 22nd Aug '17 8:09:05 PM by Karxrida

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#864: Aug 27th 2017 at 7:59:58 PM

Removed a horribly misused They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character entry in YMMV.Fire Emblem Warriors that existed largely to complain.

Gonna keep an eye on the page because I suspect a temporary lock could potentially be necessary in the future.

edited 27th Aug '17 8:00:18 PM by Karxrida

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#865: Aug 27th 2017 at 9:55:54 PM

What the hell is it with that franchise?

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#866: Aug 28th 2017 at 6:32:50 AM

I don't get it either. And I've played enough FE for a lifetime. It looks like the series managed to gather a Vocal Minority for every single opinion one could hold about every single aspect of every single game.

edited 28th Aug '17 6:47:30 AM by Yumil

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#867: Aug 31st 2017 at 4:16:07 PM

Game Of Thrones S 5 E 9 The Dance Of Dragons contains lines such as:

Ellaria makes a play for winning Jaime's sympathy and gives an entirely unconvincing entreaty to understanding Jaime's proclivities with his sister and likening it to base-born women coupling with noble-born princes... WTH? She then forgives Myrcella and Jaime, even though it was Tywin and Gregor, not to mention her lover's own faults that were responsible, (and all of who are either dead or in eternal agony), for Oberyn's death! Anyone who believed this irrational hag was genuine for a minute needs to get their head checked.

Shireen plays with her new wooden animal in the midst of Stannis's Camp, highlighted by her crackling brazier, how much more obvious can you get D&D?! Stannis enters her tent for a heart to heart with his only child.

Those edits aren't allowed on recap pages, right?

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#868: Aug 31st 2017 at 4:46:32 PM

I don't read recap pages, but that cannot be how they're supposed to work.

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#870: Sep 3rd 2017 at 5:31:58 PM

Does this example of Awesomeness Withdrawal (on YMMV.Steven Universe) sound complainy?

  • Sadly this happened again, and to an even worse extent, when the show fell into a wordless hiatus after the "Wanted" special. More than 3 months of not only no new episodes, but no word from the network of when they would return either. Though the SDCC 2017 trailers and sneak peeks alleviated this a bit, the fact that they weren't released to the general public and were only available on You Tube through phone recordings of the panels, as well as how none of them presented a date for the show's return only exacerbated the problem further.

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#871: Sep 3rd 2017 at 5:45:51 PM

[up]It sounds very biased, I'm afraid.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#872: Sep 3rd 2017 at 5:48:07 PM

Should I cut it?

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#873: Sep 3rd 2017 at 5:58:03 PM

that doesn't even look like a correct use of the trope. The trope seem to be about that feeling you get when you just finished a work and want more, except it's over. This just look like the hiatus of the show is long and people are not happy about it. Burn it to the ground.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
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#874: Sep 3rd 2017 at 9:36:47 PM

Done. Should I burn the entry it's a sub bullet of, too?

  • The show's most universal complaint is its inconsistent schedule. The series has had several hiatuses in its run, and although the Stevenbombs are beloved, they've been taking an increasingly long number of months to air. Though it was finally subverted big time with the Summer of Steven, aka the Stevennuke, with the majority of Season 3 airing on consecutive weekdays, followed immediately by a weekly schedule for Season 4. Unfortunately, however, this occurred again for many fans when the show fell into yet another hiatus after "Onion Gang".

edited 3rd Sep '17 9:37:28 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#875: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:08:53 AM

that still doesn't look like anything like Awesomeness W Ithdrawal and more straight up complaining to me.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."

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