All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread

He did, but I just found out today, mostly because I have never played it and I'm pretty sure that it is not available in the US.

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Yeah, it's not, which annoys me >.>

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

Well. You CAN get it anywhere in the world. You just need to have access to a Japanese app store (for iOS that means a Japanese iTunes account).

Yes, but I mean in English.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

Yeah... you probably shouldn't be waiting for that. Type Moon is notoriously bad about bringing stuff over.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Yeah, unfortunately >.>

So, bringing us back to fanfics, how plausible do you guys think it is for someone to create a fake Servant?

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

I'd say damn near impossible, but I think Kojiro is the exception, not the rule sort of thing when it comes to summoning false servants. While there are classes that exist outside of the original seven, summoning a false Servant would require a lot of energy to do. How exactly Medea managed was mostly due to the fact she hails from the Age of the Gods, so it'd make sense to for her to have that knowledge. As for any regular Master? Ha ha, good luck with that.

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Yeah, I figured xD I just came up with a fanfic idea recently where one of the primary threats is an army of false Servants (like they aren't any hero in particular but they can go toe-to-toe with a Servant though they don't have a Noble Phantasm).

Granted it does take place in a parallel world where the world is, in essence, in a second Age of Gods, or at least something like it.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

Well, arguably Strange Fake's Berserker is a "false" Servant, because they're explicitly not the actual historical/mythical figure that they're identified with (Jack The Ripper), but rather an embodiment of their legend and the mystery surrounding almost everything that pertains to the person's identity (sex, age, physical appearance, etc.). The entity was summoned using a toy replica of one of Jack The Ripper's knives as a catalyst (it was part of the merchandise for a Victorian London-based video game), so that might be one avenue for summoning a false Servant that's available to modern Masters: Just have them use a shoddy imitation of the original artifact for a historical/mythical figure whose legend's details have a sufficient degree of ambiguity/variability to them.

edited 17th May '16 2:32:50 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

The Nasuverse is a world of strict rules with very few exceptions, for the most part.

Medea's 'assassin' was never the real Assassin - in fact, Hassan eats his way out of Kojiro.

But if you're talking about Servants that aren't real people... it's more common than you'd think. It's possible to summon the myth of Jack the Ripper without summoning Jack the Ripper. Hell, Jack the Ripper herself is already kinda screwy because she's a wraith made of angry dead fetus hatred and desire for mommies to pet their heads. It's possible to summon the anthropomorphic representation of the concept of a Nursery Rhyme. You can summon What If? versions of servants.

Technically, every 'Alter' version we've seen so far is a fake servant that can't really exist naturally. Saber Alter cannot be without the corruption of the grail. Artoria Lancer Alter's base already comes from a What If? universe, but she's a What If? on top of that. Jeanne Alter was brought into existence by a combination of a fuckton of power, the Grail and Gilles' insanity. Even Cu Alter technically only exists because of Medb's fuckery.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Mebd's metaphorical fuckery, which is in this case distinct from her literal fuckery.

To her disappointment.

edited 17th May '16 2:40:32 PM by Krika

Yes, but I mean "fake" Servant as in they're mainly faceless automatons. Like they're all in full armor and helmets, barely speak, stuff like that.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

Sounds like the junk Ainsworth cards from Prisma Illya, except as Servants instead of equipment.

@Marq: I'm pretty sure all of the original six Servants from Strange Fakes were fakes. Strange fakes, one might say.

... no, that doesn't happen. 'Cause it kinda can't.

The closest you get is blank class cards.

edited 17th May '16 2:55:47 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

... Why couldn't they have just gone the Nerve Damage route and have her be an AU Artoria who got tired of all the bullshit she has to endure being a perfect Lawful Good king and instead became a Lawful Evil tyrant who showed no mercy to any enemies or traitors (thus Mordred would've either failed horribly in her rebellion, or never had a reason to rebel in the first place), and considered spilling seas' worth of other nations' blood an acceptable alternative to having the blood of her own people being spilled, with the result that the bloodshed and evil she committed was so excessive (and perhaps one time too many contacts with an unfathomably Evil/corruption-saturated artifact) that it actually corrupted her soul/magical aura as well as the nature of Excalibur (turning it into a literally blood-thirsty Evil Weapon)?

edited 17th May '16 2:57:33 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

... Because that's not what Saber Alter is? Saber Alter is Saber corrupted by the Grail. That's what Saber Alter is.

Because Saber Alter is Saber corrupted by the grail. Also you can't corrupt Excalibur. It is not actually possible to do so. You just can't. Excalibur is not a weapon that can be corrupted, broken, damaged or what have you. Excalibur is the Sword of Promised Victory. It takes its color from its owner's prana, yes, but it cannot be corrupted. Excalibur Morgan is still a peerless Holy Sword. Light Is Not Good.

Also because Nerve Damage isn't very good.

edited 17th May '16 3:38:23 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Nerve Damage does Serial Escalation and over-the-top multi-Servant melees well. What it doesn't do well is sticking to canon on a lot of things. Least of all the eponymous Nerve-Circuit things.

I'm kind of dubious regarding the idea of "sticking to canon" being critical to a non-canon work...

edited 17th May '16 4:55:41 PM by EvaUnit01

It's not the Stations of the Canon that we're talking about, though, it's respecting the setting's rules.

I think that fic took itself way too seriously for its own good. And the OC that it introduced stank of Mary Sue to me.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Right, I get that.

It's just, on the other hand... as long as it's enjoyable, is it really that important?

Yes. Because it impacts my ability to enjoy it.

Assuming that everything that Rule of Fun covers for you is objective instead of your personal preference is bad.

edited 17th May '16 5:07:03 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

...okay, that's fair enough.

It takes all kinds, as they say.

It even impacts yours because it adds unnecessary strain to your Willing Suspension of Disbelief.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Yeah, but for the most part I only really care about keeping the characters (somewhat) recognizable.

The setting/meta-logic usually tend to be the kind of thing I'm pretty chill about. Especially when it comes to a series that runs on rules that I believe to be needlessly arbitrary or needlessly restrictive.

And like you just said, not everybody has the same idea of "fun". And that's a perfectly okay thing.

IANCE, the creators of the setting themselves don't respect its rules. I think we have more leeway in this than with other fandoms.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.