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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking For An Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

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#1826: Sep 29th 2013 at 8:30:05 PM

Removed second quote on Head in the Sand Management, and made a note of it on Discussion. Put the second quote there against possible future creation of a quotes page. Also stripped potholes out of remaining page quote.

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Terrie Since: Apr, 2011
#1827: Sep 30th 2013 at 10:19:29 AM

Insatiable Newlyweds has two quotes. I'm not hugely fond of either of them, but since there don't seem to be any great alternatives, I'd say the second is the better of the two.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1828: Sep 30th 2013 at 1:07:31 PM

We have to be able to find better quotes than those. I mean, c'mon. Give me a minute to check Narbonic.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1829: Sep 30th 2013 at 1:18:58 PM

There's a bit in this series of strips, especially this one, but I don't think any of it makes enough sense outside of context. Still, there has to be something. That trope is just oddly underused, considering how often it comes up in fiction.

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#1830: Sep 30th 2013 at 1:20:01 PM

Insatiable Newlyweds: Both current quotes can go.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#1831: Oct 1st 2013 at 9:07:41 AM

With the renaming of Spoony Bard to Quirky Bard, the quote atop the page no longer qualify.

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#1832: Oct 1st 2013 at 10:47:49 AM

Insatiable Newlyweds: Agreed, neither one is applicable. I'm not sure that the Song of Solomon example is valid, either.

Quirky Bard: Yep. Junk it.

edited 1st Oct '13 10:48:44 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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#1833: Oct 1st 2013 at 10:49:51 AM

Remove the Quirky Bard quote.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#1834: Oct 1st 2013 at 6:02:13 PM

The Agony Booth page quote on The Password Is Always "Swordfish" is really long and sort of tap dances around the point of the trope. There's at least four shorter quotes on the quotes page that would work better.

I'm partial to the Discworld quote, but since it namedrops the trope, I'll be okay if it doesn't get used.

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#1835: Oct 1st 2013 at 6:41:12 PM

I really like the last quote on the quotes page.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Terrie Since: Apr, 2011
#1836: Oct 1st 2013 at 6:49:48 PM

Giftedly Bad has two quotes, set up as a pair. Maybe this one as a replacement?

"Every once in a while we turn up another P.D.Q. Bach manuscript in a monastery or attic. And every time we do, we have a great feeling of anticipation, a feeling of exultation, you might say. A feeling that this new piece we've found can't possibly be as bad as the last piece. But so far, every new piece we find of his lives up to the same low standards set by the previous one."
— Peter Schickele on P.D.Q. Bach, An Evening with P.D.Q. Bach

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#1837: Oct 1st 2013 at 6:54:26 PM

I like that suggestion.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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#1838: Oct 1st 2013 at 7:18:18 PM

I think I prefer Mark Twain's introduction to English As She Is Spoke (also on the quotes page) for Giftedly Bad.

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#1839: Oct 1st 2013 at 7:44:37 PM

Y'know, any of the ones on the quotes page for Giftedly Bad would be good. I can't decide.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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#1840: Oct 1st 2013 at 10:00:19 PM

And I myself prefer to keep the Stephen Pile quote. :P

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#1841: Oct 2nd 2013 at 4:09:35 AM

[up]Kinda like that one too.

Not really liking the last one on Quotes.The Password Is Always Swordfish, but mainly because it's not accurate.

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#1842: Oct 2nd 2013 at 4:10:19 AM

Giftedly Bad: What is the Gonagall quote? It should go. Relatedly, I do not like the Twain one.

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#1843: Oct 2nd 2013 at 8:43:51 AM

The Gonagall quote is providing context for the other, but it isn't really necessary.

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#1844: Oct 2nd 2013 at 10:40:57 AM

The Password Is Always "Swordfish": I think I like the Glorious quote best. I think it does a good job showcasing the fact that the trope is about easy-to-guess passwords, without verging into real life territory (the last one on the quotes page) or repeating the trope name (Discworld), which I prefer not to have the quote do.

Giftedly Bad: I vote for the Birdemic quote. The Pile quote should be moved to the quotes page; I'm not voting for it because it repeats the trope name. I don't like the P.D.Q. Bach quote because I don't think it clearly enough indicates the passion/cult following, etc., that's essential to the trope; it just tells me that he's bad. The Twain one is great if you're familiar with English As She Is Spoke, but I don't think it's particularly clear if you're not.

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#1845: Oct 2nd 2013 at 10:52:19 AM

The Password Is Always "Swordfish": What Nocturna said.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#1846: Oct 2nd 2013 at 5:32:38 PM

The Password is Always Swordfish: Swapped out the page quote for the Glorious one.

edited 2nd Oct '13 5:33:00 PM by Candi

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#1847: Oct 3rd 2013 at 1:01:27 PM

Nothing Is Scarier and Primal Fear have the same quote,which page should it stay on?

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#1848: Oct 3rd 2013 at 1:06:19 PM

Hmm, that's a tough one. I'd say that the quote shows more of a "fear of the unknown" thing, which seems close to Primal Fear than Nothing Is Scarier.

Don't know about a replacement - something on Nothing Is Scarier?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#1849: Oct 3rd 2013 at 2:41:44 PM

I vote for leaving the Lovecraft quote on Primal Fear and using one of the following (from the quotes page) on Nothing Is Scarier:

-> Harry: We were scared. It was like being lost: very young again, with the dark, and lost. There was no... thing... to be... frightened of, but...
Edna: WE WERE FRIGHTENED... and there was nothing. —>— Edward Albee, A Delicate Balance

->There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it. —>—Alfred Hitchcock

->Magister Hickory: The Master has been playing with us for a full week now. Lights on and off, odd noises, awful smells. And that was a glimpse of the Beast.
Thornmallow: But I saw nothing.
Register Oakbend: Which is worse—seeing or not seeing? —>— Wizards Hall

->Teal lifted the blind a few inches. He saw nothing, and raised it a little more — still nothing. Slowly he raised it until the window was fully exposed. They gazed out at — nothing. Nothing, nothing at all. What color is nothing? Don't be silly! What shape is it? Shape is an attribute of something. It had neither depth nor form. It had not even blackness. It was nothing. —> Robert A. Heinlein, —And He Built a Crooked House—

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