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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4926: Apr 18th 2018 at 5:45:08 PM

But the second Garfield quote is very nice, too.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#4927: Apr 19th 2018 at 12:48:05 PM

Just noticed a pagequote change on Doom, from:

"Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil... prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon..."

to:

"As you walk through the main entrance of the base, you hear animal-like growls echoing throughout the distant corridors. They know you're here. There's no turning back now."
Readme.txt

Strictly speaking there's nothing wrong with the new quote, but I feel like Pratchett's quote was wittier, and also gets at the heart of Doom better than the newer quote does (well, at least as far as I tend to play it; the first playthrough of the game is fairly tense, but later plays are more about you slaughtering demons than fearing demons slaughtering you).

That isn't what bothers me, though; what bothers me is that I can't find any discussion about this change. Came here just to double-check I hadn't missed one in here, because there was nothing in the Discussion page for the article, and the Forums thread for Doom hasn't been touched in a while either - so, since there's no mention of it here either prior to this post, I have to assume this was a unilateral change. I'm doubt it's a bad faith edit from the author, given they've been contributing to this site for at least a year, and a quick skim of their edits generally shows them on the up-and-up; I'll PM them a link to the thread after making this post.

In the interim, thoughts on which one should stay? I'd like to revert, but I'd also not like to start an edit war over it.

Moon
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#4928: Apr 19th 2018 at 12:54:57 PM

To clarify what seems to have happened, the person in question moved the quote from VideoGame.Doom to Franchise.Doom, replacing the quote on the former as [up] said.

The original quote from the Franchise/ page:

"I do need a gun. I need a big gun. I need a really big gun..."
Doomguy, the Doom comic book

edited 19th Apr '18 12:55:29 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4929: Apr 19th 2018 at 12:59:44 PM

I think the Pratchett quote is more appropriate for the franchise than any specific game, so I approve of that move.

The readme.txt quote feels weak, though. Perhaps something from a review of the game?

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ashlay Since: Apr, 2011
#4930: Apr 19th 2018 at 1:00:53 PM

[up][up] yeah, I moved the comic quote to the comic page, I moved the more general Terry Pratchett quote to the franchise page, and put a quote specific to the original Doom on the original Doom page, as each seemed more illustrative of the comic, the general franchise, and the original game to me. However, if people are unhappy with this, feel free to move them around, change them back, whatever you like. [tup]

edited 19th Apr '18 1:01:22 PM by ashlay

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#4931: Apr 19th 2018 at 1:02:47 PM

I wasn't seriously disputing the logic, it's just that you changed these things without offering up that logic for other tropers to go over in the first place. Try to seek second opinions on changes like this in the future, okay?

edited 19th Apr '18 1:03:42 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
ashlay Since: Apr, 2011
#4932: Apr 19th 2018 at 1:05:48 PM

[up] entirely my fault for only including an edit reason on the franchise page, my apologies.

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#4933: Apr 19th 2018 at 1:14:14 PM

Aha. In that case, I'm fine with the change.

Moon
Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#4934: Apr 19th 2018 at 7:16:39 PM

ThatOneBoss.Atlus currently has an edit comment saying to only include "games developed by Atlus only" yet its page quote refers to a FromSoftware product (which IMO deserves its own page too due to From Software itself also being infamous for this).

I feel like changing the page quote there for another reason as well, because it the quote doesn't even directly refer to fighting bosses, either.

edited 19th Apr '18 7:20:12 PM by Albert3105

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#4935: Apr 19th 2018 at 7:18:17 PM

Okay, I took care of the multiple Presidential quotes. I mostly stuck with quotes from the men themselves, so I think it should be alright for now. I also made Quote subpages for all of them and moved the cut quotes over there.

OPALGARNET16 Priest of the Temple of Syrinx from Nighttree, New Jersey Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Priest of the Temple of Syrinx
#4936: Apr 20th 2018 at 8:28:19 PM

Hello!

Does anyone mind if I change the O.O.C. Is Serious Business page quote at all? I’m not saying the page quote isn’t an example (it is), but I just think it could be replaced with a quote that’s more... specific.

Hi, I’m oghond, and I’m a Rushaholic. Sorry if I annoy you unintentionally. 😅
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#4937: Apr 20th 2018 at 9:00:12 PM

I mean it would depend in part on what you changed it to.

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#4939: Apr 20th 2018 at 9:46:34 PM

Yes, because quotes aren't supposed to have potholes at all. Or in other words, any blue is too much blue.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4940: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:58:02 AM

There are exceptions to that rule, such as referencing a specific work.

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dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4941: Apr 21st 2018 at 6:33:32 AM

Does this fall under that exception?

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#4942: Apr 21st 2018 at 6:49:25 AM

No, it doesn't. Potholing in page top quotes is not the same thing as having a wick to a work being quoted put at the end of the quote for the sake of attribution.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4943: Apr 21st 2018 at 7:33:21 AM

Actually, I was referring to the practice, as demonstrated in Rocky Roll Call, Super-Deformed, and Vomit Indiscretion Shot, of leaving a Pot Hole to a work that the quote is giving a Shout-Out to.

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dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4944: Apr 21st 2018 at 9:34:38 AM

Since the top of the page already has a list of the comics the show adapted, I removed the potholes from the quote.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4945: Apr 21st 2018 at 10:31:55 PM

Both Writer's Block and Isaac Asimov use the same quote. I'm not certain which page suits it better. Neither one has a Quotes subpage to draw ideas from.

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DipperPines Pine Tree from Piedmont, California Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Pine Tree
#4946: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:33:24 PM

Hey! Could I add this quote from Stan to the There Are No Police page? What do you guys think?

"When there's no cops around, anything's legal!"
Stan Pines, Gravity Falls

"Stay curious, stay weird, stay kind and don't let anyone ever tell you you aren't smart or brave or worthy enough."—The Author
naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#4947: Apr 28th 2018 at 4:04:44 PM

The quote on Gayborhood doesn't really illustrate. The whole joke relies on

  • Knowing that the main street in San Francisco's Gayborhood is called Castro
  • Knowing that Fidel Castro would be upset by this
which seems like too much context.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4948: Apr 28th 2018 at 5:44:01 PM

[up] I think the second point, at least, is fairly common knowledge. And the first point, if unknown, can be more than easily inferred from the page image.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4949: Apr 29th 2018 at 9:50:08 PM

OK, so there's been several changes to the page quote for TV show/episode "Black Mirror: San Junipero", and at present it has settled on having

Uploaded to the cloud, sounds like heaven
as the page quote, and the original page quote,
They say in heaven love comes first/We'll make heaven a place on Earth
as the image caption. However, this means that the page quote is now the same line as the page quote for Artificial Afterlife. I think that it's a fitting quote for that trope, so maybe the image caption for BMSJ should be made the page quote again, with the image not necessarily needing a caption (though there are plenty that would do, like "Hello, stupid" or "I don’t want to like anyone. So you’ve been just totally fucking inconvenient"). Ironically enough, the "Heaven Is A Place On Earth" quote was also Artificial Afterlife's original page quote in TLP, but isn't particularly accurate/obvious.

edited 29th Apr '18 9:54:00 PM by lakingsif

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#4950: May 1st 2018 at 4:59:04 PM

Germans Love David Hasselhoff has two quotes. I think we should pull the first one, since it's just restating the trope name.

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