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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#52: Jan 14th 2012 at 3:18:39 PM

And I say "visible equipment leads to What The Hell, Costuming Department?" being turned into just, plain "visible equipment" is simple redefining to prevent more complaining, not making another trope.

It's not really a "pretty simple" redefining, it leads to a completely different trope.

[up]?

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#53: Jan 14th 2012 at 3:27:43 PM

"It's not simple if you can't use ANY of the existing trope which in this case you can't."

The first sentence isn't part of the existing trope? That is just false. And don't give me "it's a minor part", because you wrote "ANY", in all-caps, implying an absolute.

This new definition wouldn't lose an examples. It would simply removing the complaining aspect, which is what we are doing. So keeping the examples also means that some of the existing trope remains.

The only thing that would be lost would be the subjective reaction.

And so far, you haven't proven anything. You just keep insisting that this would be entirely new, without showing a single bit of the description, definition, or examples to show that this would be the case.

"Actually it is exactly Rummage Sale Reject not What The Hell, Costuming Department?."

No. That will have to be put on TRS eventually, but that trope means an outfit that is made to be hard to cosplay. It's right there in the definition, and was affirmed in some thread discussions a while badk.

edited 14th Jan '12 3:29:14 PM by DragonQuestZ

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#54: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:21:12 PM

I read the definition as "Mixing and matching different pieces of gear results in an odd-looking outfit."

edited 15th Jan '12 1:21:33 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#55: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:32:36 PM

Which need not be limited to video game equipment. This could actually be split into two tropes, one about making the effort to render equipment on character models, and the other being a form of Impossibly Tacky Clothes.

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#56: Jan 15th 2012 at 3:51:37 PM

[up] The second one would be YMMV though and well every one of the former which lets you mix and match gear would be the latter there are no exceptions to that.

I would probably set up the former as different tropes

  • weapons only rendered (Final Fantasy) (most common.)
    • Weapons (or even gear) that only show the one you have equipped in battle cutscenes only show their default or nothing at all. (Lightning's weapons Final Fantasy XIII, Squalls weapon in Final Fantasy VIII)
    • Weapons never show up in cutscenes as if they are hammerspaced. (IE Snow's power symbol jacket in Final Fantasy XIII is always gone during cutscenes.)
  • weapons and shields, (Final Fantasy X)
  • different item specific ones which will change the entire character model. Sometimes as a Full Setbonus or just a single piece. (Like Dragon Quest VIII or Dragon Quest III where only a few pieces of equipment will change the character model later gets a new sprite.)
  • Full on show everything (Dragon Quest IX) let you mix and match pieces of gear as a side effect of making you look odd when you get different especially prevalent when you look at stats only and upgrade from town to town [1][2][3][4] which I think should keep the name Rainbow Pimp Gear. The game can make full matching armor sets too if it gives you a bonus for doing so thus making it better than Mix and matching its Full Set Bonus.

edited 15th Jan '12 4:05:02 PM by Raso

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#57: Jan 15th 2012 at 6:02:34 PM

I meant limiting it to In-Universe examples. Anything subjective would just be, well, subjective.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#58: Jan 15th 2012 at 6:34:27 PM

If it's just "mismatched outfit", that's Rummage Sale Reject, where a character's outfit appears to have been designed randomly. And if the other characters react to it In-Universe, that's Impossibly Tacky Clothes. If it looks mismatched because that's what the player mixed and matched, it's Rainbow Pimp Gear.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#59: Jan 15th 2012 at 6:41:36 PM

[up]Again, that's not what Rummage Sale Reject means. I've asked before, and it actually means an outfit designed to make it really hard to cosplay.

If we want to rename or redefine that, I would support it.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#60: Jan 15th 2012 at 7:03:35 PM

That's how I'm reading the description of Rummage Sale Reject.

Some characters wear a realistic outfit, to the point that a cosplay of them might be relatively simple. But this gets kind of boring; it's not a challenge for the cosplayer to put together, and very few people will actually realize that he or she is in costume. (Which might explain why even mundane series tend to gravitate towards unique school uniforms and such). This paragraph is Example as a Thesis explaining what the trope is not/a problem that the trope can solve.

Sometimes the character designers realize that their characters' wardrobes are too realistic. That's a continuation of the previous paragraph. One way to compensate for this This is an indicator that the definition is forthcoming... is by mixing bits and pieces of what might be a number of perfectly acceptable outfits into a bizarre Frankenstein mess. That there is the trope. The outfit may be comfortable, but something about it just looks slightly, but not totally, off. And this bit describes what the results of the trope typically look like.

Tropes can be solutions to out-of-universe brand issues like that, but the trope is almost always the solution, not the problem. Rummage Sale Reject is for mismatched clothing; if the creator is calling in mismatched clothing in order to make it harder to cosplay, that's the Enforced Trope, not the basic trope. The examples section should back me up here.

edited 15th Jan '12 7:09:17 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#61: Jan 15th 2012 at 7:12:24 PM

Well when I brought it up in previous threads, that is what some insisted it was. So we really should make a separate TRS thread for that trope.

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#62: Mar 17th 2012 at 5:15:59 PM

Bump. So what's the decision then?

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#63: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:32:02 AM

Clocking due to lack of activity.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#65: Apr 20th 2012 at 1:55:29 PM

[up]Did you holler?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#66: Apr 20th 2012 at 3:44:06 PM

Crownered up.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#67: May 16th 2012 at 3:08:20 PM

Bumping for votes.

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#68: May 18th 2012 at 4:18:21 AM

Calling the crowner in favor of the suggested cleanup. Make it so.

edited 18th May '12 4:18:37 AM by Willbyr

DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#69: Jun 30th 2012 at 12:37:58 PM

Can't really help with the cleanup, but did add a note in the description mandating that the clothing involved must both be visible to the player/viewer and have some advantage to equipping versus not.

edited 30th Jun '12 12:38:14 PM by DonaldthePotholer

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#70: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:04:18 AM

Any progress on cleaning the wicks?

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#71: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:12:21 AM

We also want a rename here, it seems.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#72: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:22:39 AM

The crowner wasn't called for that, so it would seem not.

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#73: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:28:22 AM

"Rename the trope to avert further misuse (and clean it up). " has 8-4 votes and isn't exclusive with the other winning option. No idea why the crowner was called for only one of them.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#74: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:43:36 AM

You'd have to ask Willbyr.

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#75: Dec 8th 2012 at 12:46:04 PM

This has been dead forever and no action was ever made. Locking it.

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20th Apr '12 6:49:45 AM

Crown Description:

This trope is about wearing items from different "armor sets" because they give better bonuses even if they look weird together. It is often misused for simply "gear that looks ugly".

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