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Often misuses for equipment that is just ugly,: Rainbow Pimp Gear get usage counts

Cure Candy
Actually it is exactly Rummage Sale Reject not What The Hell, Costuming Department?.

edited 14th Jan '12 3:19:08 PM by Raso

 52 Ghilz, Sat, 14th Jan '12 3:18:39 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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And I say "visible equipment leads to What The Hell, Costuming Department?" being turned into just, plain "visible equipment" is simple redefining to prevent more complaining, not making another trope.

It's not really a "pretty simple" redefining, it leads to a completely different trope.

[up]?
 53 Dragon Quest Z, Sat, 14th Jan '12 3:27:43 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
"It's not simple if you can't use ANY of the existing trope which in this case you can't."

The first sentence isn't part of the existing trope? That is just false. And don't give me "it's a minor part", because you wrote "ANY", in all-caps, implying an absolute.

This new definition wouldn't lose an examples. It would simply removing the complaining aspect, which is what we are doing. So keeping the examples also means that some of the existing trope remains.

The only thing that would be lost would be the subjective reaction.

And so far, you haven't proven anything. You just keep insisting that this would be entirely new, without showing a single bit of the description, definition, or examples to show that this would be the case.

"Actually it is exactly Rummage Sale Reject not What The Hell, Costuming Department?."

No. That will have to be put on TRS eventually, but that trope means an outfit that is made to be hard to cosplay. It's right there in the definition, and was affirmed in some thread discussions a while badk.

edited 14th Jan '12 3:29:14 PM by DragonQuestZ

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
I read the definition as "Mixing and matching different pieces of gear results in an odd-looking outfit."

edited 15th Jan '12 1:21:33 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
 55 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 15th Jan '12 1:32:36 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Which need not be limited to video game equipment. This could actually be split into two tropes, one about making the effort to render equipment on character models, and the other being a form of Impossibly Tacky Clothes.
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Cure Candy
[up] The second one would be YMMV though and well every one of the former which lets you mix and match gear would be the latter there are no exceptions to that.

I would probably set up the former as different tropes

  • weapons only rendered (Final Fantasy) (most common.)
    • Weapons (or even gear) that only show the one you have equipped in battle cutscenes only show their default or nothing at all. (Lightning's weapons Final Fantasy XIII, Squalls weapon in Final Fantasy VIII)
    • Weapons never show up in cutscenes as if they are hammerspaced. (IE Snow's power symbol jacket in Final Fantasy XIII is always gone during cutscenes.)
  • weapons and shields, (Final Fantasy X)
  • different item specific ones which will change the entire character model. Sometimes as a Full Setbonus or just a single piece. (Like Dragon Quest VIII or Dragon Quest III where only a few pieces of equipment will change the character model later gets a new sprite.)
  • Full on show everything (Dragon Quest IX) let you mix and match pieces of gear as a side effect of making you look odd when you get different especially prevalent when you look at stats only and upgrade from town to town [1][2][3][4] which I think should keep the name Rainbow Pimp Gear. The game can make full matching armor sets too if it gives you a bonus for doing so thus making it better than Mix and matching its Full Set Bonus.

edited 15th Jan '12 4:05:02 PM by Raso

 57 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 15th Jan '12 6:02:34 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
I meant limiting it to In-Universe examples. Anything subjective would just be, well, subjective.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
If it's just "mismatched outfit", that's Rummage Sale Reject, where a character's outfit appears to have been designed randomly. And if the other characters react to it In-Universe, that's Impossibly Tacky Clothes. If it looks mismatched because that's what the player mixed and matched, it's Rainbow Pimp Gear.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 59 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 15th Jan '12 6:41:36 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
[up]Again, that's not what Rummage Sale Reject means. I've asked before, and it actually means an outfit designed to make it really hard to cosplay.

If we want to rename or redefine that, I would support it.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
That's how I'm reading the description of Rummage Sale Reject.

Some characters wear a realistic outfit, to the point that a cosplay of them might be relatively simple. But this gets kind of boring; it's not a challenge for the cosplayer to put together, and very few people will actually realize that he or she is in costume. (Which might explain why even mundane series tend to gravitate towards unique school uniforms and such). This paragraph is Example as a Thesis explaining what the trope is not/a problem that the trope can solve.

Sometimes the character designers realize that their characters' wardrobes are too realistic. That's a continuation of the previous paragraph. One way to compensate for this This is an indicator that the definition is forthcoming... is by mixing bits and pieces of what might be a number of perfectly acceptable outfits into a bizarre Frankenstein mess. That there is the trope. The outfit may be comfortable, but something about it just looks slightly, but not totally, off. And this bit describes what the results of the trope typically look like.
Tropes can be solutions to out-of-universe brand issues like that, but the trope is almost always the solution, not the problem. Rummage Sale Reject is for mismatched clothing; if the creator is calling in mismatched clothing in order to make it harder to cosplay, that's the Enforced Trope, not the basic trope. The examples section should back me up here.

edited 15th Jan '12 7:09:17 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
 61 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 15th Jan '12 7:12:24 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Well when I brought it up in previous threads, that is what some insisted it was. So we really should make a separate TRS thread for that trope.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Bump. So what's the decision then?

 63 ccoa, Wed, 18th Apr '12 5:32:02 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Clocking due to lack of activity.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 64 Spark 9, Fri, 20th Apr '12 6:51:02 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Please attach crowner: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/PageAction/RainbowPimpGear
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 65 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 20th Apr '12 1:55:29 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
[up]Did you holler?
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
 66 ccoa, Fri, 20th Apr '12 3:44:06 PM from the Sleeping Giant
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Crownered up.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 67 ccoa, Wed, 16th May '12 3:08:20 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 68 Willbyr, Fri, 18th May '12 4:18:21 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Calling the crowner in favor of the suggested cleanup. Make it so.

edited 18th May '12 4:18:37 AM by Willbyr

 69 Donaldthe Potholer, Sat, 30th Jun '12 12:37:58 PM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
Can't really help with the cleanup, but did add a note in the description mandating that the clothing involved must both be visible to the player/viewer and have some advantage to equipping versus not.

edited 30th Jun '12 12:38:14 PM by DonaldthePotholer

 70 ccoa, Mon, 13th Aug '12 8:04:18 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Any progress on cleaning the wicks?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 71 Septimus Heap, Mon, 13th Aug '12 8:12:21 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
We also want a rename here, it seems.

 72 ccoa, Mon, 13th Aug '12 8:22:39 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
The crowner wasn't called for that, so it would seem not.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 73 Septimus Heap, Mon, 13th Aug '12 8:28:22 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
"Rename the trope to avert further misuse (and clean it up). " has 8-4 votes and isn't exclusive with the other winning option. No idea why the crowner was called for only one of them.

 74 ccoa, Mon, 13th Aug '12 8:43:36 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
You'd have to ask Willbyr.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 75 lu 127, Sat, 8th Dec '12 12:46:04 PM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
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Page Action: Rainbow Pimp Gear
20th Apr '12 6:49:45 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
This trope is about wearing items from different "armor sets" because they give better bonuses even if they look weird together. It is often misused for simply "gear that looks ugly".
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