Person Of Interest

Sorry about that, I'm just not sure what parts are spoilers and what parts aren't!

The next episode makes sound like the CIA is coming for Reese and (maybe) Finch, and Carter might end up having to be the one to save their lives! As they say...the plot thickens!

edited 9th Dec '11 6:14:11 PM by TiggersAreGreat

The whole thing would probably qualify as a giant spoiler. ;D

Does anyone know if it's been renewed for a second season? I'd hate to see it axed, it has a lot of potential and I know it made a really good first impression.

I have no idea myself. If the show gets renewed for a second season, then that brings up a big question: is Charlie AKA Elias going to be the Big Bad for the whole show, or just the first season? I just think it might be tricky to come up with another Big Bad in the theoretical second season!

Brett Cullen's character from Finch's flashbacks (sorry, his name escapes me) would make a good Big Bad in future seasons, if the show does get renewed (right now, all I know is that CBS ordered a full season).

x6 My impression was less that they actually killed him and more that they neglected to look out for him and he got killed as a result and they just blew it off as just another "raghead" buying it. Still douchebags though.

He's dead, isn't he? The character. I'm assuming you're talking about Finch's business partner.

The fall finale was really good. And it was interesting that they didn't manage to save everyone the machine gave them, which shows that they can only do so much. What I thought was really weird is, if the CIA guys were planning on killing John, which is what it looked like considering they had the sniper guy and he shot John before he even did anything, shouldn't've the machine gave Finch John's number? Although, taking it into account that this is John, maybe he doesn't have a SIN number? And we finally got the John/Carter actual face-to-face interaction I was looking forward to, even if it didn't last that long.

Possibly. I don't remember him dying, but maybe I missed it and/or it slipped my mind.

I like that Reese is shooting bad guys in the chest instead of the leg now. TV is sorely in need of more justice.

There's a memorial bust that Finch walks by in episode 2 that says "Our Founder: (something) - 2010", since Finch's partner was the face of the company, I'm assuming that is his memorial. I don't think it has been stated outright that he died, but I think the incident in how he died is somehow related to Finch's spinal injury and the reason why he started trying to save people on the irrelevent list. All to be revealed soon enough, I hope.

I really like this show. But since Jim Caviezel is mainly well-known for being in a certain Mel Gibson movie a few years ago, I can't help but think of it as Secret Agent Jesus.

I haven't actually seen The Passion of the Christ, but I can't help but think the same thing either.

I now want a series or movie called Secret Agent jesus, the ads for which would have Jesus dressed like James Bond and turning water into martinis.

So, Finch's partner is not all as he seems... It seems like we have a little more insight into what may have happened to Finch and his partner. I'm not sure if I like the twist or not, I was kind of rooting for the idea that the partner's death (I can't remember the character's name) and Finch's injury - most likely received in the same incident - would be the reason why Finch decided to start paying attention to the irrelevent numbers. At the same time, I'm interested to see what they're planning on coming up with.

I saw the new episode last night. Boy, that one had a lot of twists and turns! First you have a man who's down on his luck and he falls into a Frame-Up on shooting his congressman. He didn't do it, but he naturally had a hard time explaining that to the FBI.

It turns out that the congressman's partner was responsible for the killing. He became a client of a female hacker, who set it up, because the congressman was going to expose his dirty dealings and he wanted to cover it up. Once he realized that he was going to get caught, he committed suicide, gun and suicide message on the computer and all. However, Finch now has an Evil Counterpart with the female hacker, who has identified herself as Root and is doubtless going to become a recurring character! Like I said, a lot of twists and turns!

I'm looking forward to seeing more of Root. Rachel Miner is credited as playing her on IMDB, and she's one of my favorite actresses.

I saw the new episode last night and I have to say that was a very entertaining episode!

In that episode, Reese is trying to protect a young African-American kid named Darren whose brother was murdered. That kid sure is a real hoot! Early on, he acts like some young, tough gangsta-wannabe. Then it turns out that he plays music, has some talent as an artist, knows what a Rōnin is, and has actually read Sun Tzu! Clearly, the writers had a Shown Their Work moment!

It was also interesting how a couple of thugs called the kid Scrappy-Doo. Sounds to me like the writers have not only heard about Scooby Doo characters, but they share the opinion that Scrappy is young, small, loud, and annoying! I wonder if they have been visiting TV Tropes?

It just so happens that the episode is titled "Wolf and Cub". Hmm, Lone Wolf And Cub, anyone?

The episode had more than one Crowning Moment Of Funny, like Reese getting a bag that has "Plan B" written on the tag, and Fusco protecting the kid at one point and apparently getting shot in the butt, like Forrest Gump!

The episode also shows a chain in the criminal groups. A group of thugs, one of them named Brick, who killed Darren's brother, reports to a Comic Book store owner named Andre, who reports to a Fat Bastard Corrupt Cop, who reports to Big Bad Elias. I wonder why Elias hasn't made any appearances since the "Get Carter" episode? Who wants to bet a showdown between Reese and Elias will occur at some point?

Finch is clearly shook up over Root, and is finding out more about his dead partner Nathan Ingram. Meanwhile, Reese and Fusco are finding out more about Finch, like the fact that Finch is not his real name, and has actually used the I Have Many Names trope so many times that even he doesn't know what his real name is! Clearly, Reese finding out this stuff is getting someone worried, because a camera is shown monitoring him, evaluating options like "Subvert", and choosing the option "Monitor". That just begs the question: who or what was watching Reese at that very moment?

edited 10th Feb '12 10:51:16 AM by TiggersAreGreat

Thank you for having HD so I know what the fuck that camera said. I'm sick of text going off the sides of the screen where I can't read it.

I really liked the episode too. At first when I saw Reese team up with the kid I was like 'oh, great, an annoying sidekick,' but the kid was actually pretty entertaining. And it was kind of cute seeing Reese interact with him.

I'm also really digging the whole mystery behind Finch. I actually thought Wren would be his real name, but even that's a fake! I'm wondering if at the end there it's Finch who might be monitoring him? And maybe there's a lot more to Finch than we think? I don't think he's a bad guy though, but I guess we'll have to find out.

The only thing that bothered me about this episode was that nobody pronounced Sun Tzu correctly. :/

I've also come across suggestions that A.I. Is a Crapshoot, meaning that the computer, being an Artificial Intelligence, is interpreting Reese's actions of finding out more about its creator as threatening. If that's the case...ooh, boy! That could create some problems down the road!

Yeah, Sun Tzu is a Chinese name, and Chinese words are apparently difficult to pronounce correctly in English (or English speakers suffer from They Just Didn't Care). The name is spelled like this in simplified Chinese: 孙武子. The name is spelled like this in Pinyin: Sūn Wǔzǐ. The name is spelled like this in traditional Chinese: 孫武子. If you went with International Phonetic Alphabet guidelines, you would get /su̯ən˥˥u˧˥tsɨ˨˩˦/.

At least, I think that's how the pronunciation would go, but I'm not 100% sure, because Chinese pronunciation rules are pretty tricky!

edited 10th Feb '12 4:39:54 PM by TiggersAreGreat

That could potentially lead up to some Eagle Eye type plot, maybe. The could be interesting with the Machine ending up going all crazy on everyone, although I think that would reach beyond the scope of this show. I think they have their hands full enough with the bad guys they already have.

Myself, I'm hoping that the Machine is evolving into an AI. Not necessarily this season but future ones if any.

Well, this week's episode seemed like a grim reminder that what John Reese is doing has Dirty Business attached to it!

The episode has Reese looking at this one guy who seems to be a thug named Cahill. However, he finds out that Cahill is an Reverse Mole trying to bust at least one drug dealer! Those flashbacks were certainly interesting, because Reese apparently wanted to see his ex-girlfriend Jessica again, only to realize that You Can't Go Home Again.

Poor Fusco! I believe that he qualifies as a Jerkass Woobie. The Jerkass part comes from the fact that he's a Corrupt Cop, which is usually an unsympathetic character, and he is only helping Reese because Reese guilted him into it. The Woobie part comes from the fact that he has a son to raise, and that he's trying to do the right thing, but as The Atoner, he is painfully aware that it doesn't negate the dirty stuff he did. He risked his life protecting Cahill, got caught, found out the hard way that the cop who caught him was an informant in bed with the thugs Reese is up against, and would have been killed if Reese hadn't shown up fast enough!

Reese seems to act like such a jerk to Fusco at times, but in this episode, he at least tried to make it clear to Fusco that he doesn't do it out of enjoyment, but because he needs the inside track on the dirty cops on the force, and Fusco is just the man to provide it!

I've been finding myself questioning the wisdom of keeping Carter and Fusco ignorant to the fact that they're both helping Reese and Finch. By this episode, however, I'm beginning to think that it's an act of wisdom. Carter handles the clean business and Fusco handles the dirty business. It's a good idea to keep those businesses separate!

I sure liked how Cahill was doing his best to handle the stuff that was being thrown at him. He's got a wife and son, who could be put in danger from his work. He takes down the guy in charge of this whole drug-dealing operation. He takes the guy in, despite the fact that Reese warned him that the dude is a CIA agent, can use Screw the Rules, I Have Connections! to get out within a number of hours, and could use those connections to ruin Cahill's career! He knew that taking the guy in would make his life hard, but he decided to do it and give the CIA the middle finger anyways!

I don't know what to think of CIA agent Mark Snow. I can tell that he's an antagonist, but there are points where he seems to be a Well-Intentioned Extremist. When he meets with the released drug-dealing CIA agent, the guy starts telling Snow that he wants Revenge and he wants the cops who arrested him dead. Snow points out that the guy was always impulsive, and that it's a bad idea to go around killing cops. The drug-dealing CIA agent gets into this one car, gets grabbed by someone in the car, and is killed off! Yep, Snow just had the guy killed off, just like that! I wonder if this qualifies as a You Have Failed Me, You Have Outlived Your Usefulness, or Even Evil Has Standards moment!

What an episode that was!

edited 17th Feb '12 6:23:43 AM by TiggersAreGreat

I think it's kind of funny with Carter and Fusco in the dark about each other, especially when Fusco's all like "omfg, Carter's up to something," and John's all like "I'll deal with Carter."

I really liked this episode. Around episode 5 or something, I was worried that the show would become repetitive, and it did for a few episodes around there, but they've really managed to add a lot of interesting plots to it and despite each episode having the same concept, they're really not the same at all. The only thing I worry about is that they have too Big Bads, and I really don't want a season finale where they have to face-off against all of them.

edited 17th Feb '12 1:03:26 PM by zombielovescore

I doubt something like that would happen, because Root and Elias haven't even met each other, and I don't think they even know about each other's existence!

I didn't mean in the way that the bad guys would be working together, just that they'd be fighting them on several fronts.

My quibble is that the surveillance doesn't add much to this series. They seem to get by fine with the old standbys; earpiece radios and office computers.

edited 18th Feb '12 5:38:49 PM by johnnyfog