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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#26: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:38:58 PM

USAF: Yeah, you did fine, more or less.

And I did do an example. First post.

Chih: Yeah, I don't think you fully understand the whole "familiar vs. original" thing.

edited 1st Oct '11 4:40:16 PM by MrAHR

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#27: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:40:18 PM

I meant an example of whatever problem you have with what we're doing (I'm still sort of confused)...

I.e. X versus Y, where X is good and Y is bad...

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#28: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:43:45 PM

Read the first post. I gave a perfectly suffice example. Just because there is something supernatural, does not make it original.

edited 1st Oct '11 4:46:39 PM by MrAHR

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#29: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:51:12 PM

Alright, I think I get what you mean...

Familiar: Differently powered individuals fight each other with giant starships in massive space wars between different races.

Original: They all work for the same people, and are all after the same goal... regardless of whether or not the peons know about it.

(Knightfall)

edited 1st Oct '11 6:13:44 PM by USAF713

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#30: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:51:45 PM

Pretty much, yeah.

Well, to be fair, it sounds a lot like a plotized space version of tf2, but I digress...

edited 1st Oct '11 4:52:18 PM by MrAHR

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#31: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:54:32 PM

Never played Team Fortress Two, but from what I know of it, the difference here is that they know they're all working for the same people (well, the supers do, anyhow), but they can't agree on how to go about getting the job done.

These "disagreements" come in the form of ridiculous interstellar wars...

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#32: Oct 1st 2011 at 5:59:55 PM

Okay, I think I get it now:

Familiar: A teenager is given the ability by a supernatural being to transform into a magical form with a spunked-out costume and fight the forces of evil while using a fairy tail motif.

Original: The teenager is a boy.

I actually started a thread on this a while ago. The number of works that has this definition can be counted with one hand, and it requires some stretching.

edited 1st Oct '11 6:05:04 PM by chihuahua0

USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#33: Oct 1st 2011 at 6:13:04 PM

Last one:

Familiar: A young man is accused of fucking up his job by his cousins, who convince his parents to disown him, while his brothers are either indifferent or incapable of convincing their parents that he's innocent and that their cousins are full of shit.

Original: The young man is the Grim Reaper, his parents are the gods of the universe, his cousins are the angels and the demons, and his crime is the murder of a king and the destruction of the only thing keeping everyone from getting killed by a ghostly invasion.

(Soul)

edited 1st Oct '11 6:17:59 PM by USAF713

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#34: Oct 1st 2011 at 6:38:33 PM

Chih: No. You're being a tad narrow with this. Cakman says you have literally hurt his soul with your post.

A story cannot be carried with "a boy" being the main hook. Nor can "blind" or "he has psychic powers." These are traits of varying levels of "commonality", they are not hooks, nor original hooks.

You might actually wanna listen to the podcast.

edited 1st Oct '11 6:44:11 PM by MrAHR

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