Too many tropes being labeled "Medium-specific"?

That component occurred to me. If one genre is popular in a particular medium/country, it's more likely to use tropes from the genre.

It should be noted that "I mostly see this in [medium X]" means precisely jack shit if that's the medium you consume the most.

Aspect Montage isn't bad now... but my strong suspicion is that it originated in film. Unfortunately, my knowledge of "camera tropes," and especially the history thereof, is pretty limited. But it seems like one of those things Orson Welles and other guys probably did long before manga.

It certainly is far far older than anime and manga. Here we have fan myopia at it's best.

I'm no cinematography expert either, but my gut feeling is that Aspect Montage is common in film.

Hence my preference for "don't talk about it's presence in mediums". They can't do it right, so take away the ability to do it badly.

I don't have time to take it to TRS at the moment, even if they were accepting new threads, but a few of the genres for the Crime and Punishment Tropes section are overly medium specific in title and/or description.

Buddy Cop Show, Cop Show, and Crime Time TV come to mind.

Crime Time TV in particular neads a rename and needs to be sent back to YKTTW for a more examples, because there are a ton of examples in other mediums that are underrepresented.

edited 29th Nov '11 9:30:29 AM by Auxdarastrix

I'd like opinions on whether Bubbly Clouds describes only a video game level trope, or should be rewritten as a medium-neutral setting trope? It has acquired a couple non-game examples, and the description isn't good about specifying video-game specific things, like stock mooks and obstacles, that tie it to that medium.

It almost seems to me that Fluffy Cloud Heaven (Heaven is the land of Solid Clouds) and Bubbly Clouds (Solid Clouds video game level with stock enemies and obstacles) should both be subtropes of a Solid Cloud Land trope.

edited 18th Mar '12 9:06:50 AM by ArcadesSabboth

Would it help to make, e.g., Buddy Cop Movie and Buddy Cop Book as redirects to Buddy Cop Show?

edited 18th Mar '12 12:52:14 PM by HersheleOstropoler

Kids' Wilderness Epic is a "A movie genre" with a very limiting description. I Was thinking about a mon anime that would fit well under Kids Wilderness Epic, but...

Bam. I'm surprised that we actually managed to find one like that. It'd be nice if someone could summarize the points in a paragraph though.

Webcomics Multiverses needs looking at. it's basically "The 'Verse, except with webcomics". Already did a TRS for lack of use.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:19:10 PM by Jicragg

Overall,

is what I consider to be accurate. I would note, however, that just because a trope originates somewhere and is known to us, doesn't mean it's migrated yet. It's also possible that examples will bias themselves depending on current trends.

Essentially, I don't view the majority of the problem as the inherently malignant "this trope belongs to this medium, everyone else can fuck off" as "hm, I mostly see this trope in this medium I consume a lot, I should lead the description with that" fluff in the description. It's just that B looks like A if you're not familiar with it.

Also, a montage can be discussed in a book about filmmaking or whatever.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:17:52 PM by Jicragg

Yes. The problem is when bits of the latter make their way into the description. It's not always intentional, it's just that some people start a trope description the way they would an entry on Lost And Found where they reference several works that are examples. It takes some practice to learn what description components are useful and what are gunk that clogs the trope.

@87: "Out of curiosity, are there any other tropes that have eastern-western counterparts/is there are page with an index/list? Like Bishōnen and Pretty Boy."

There are a couple of tropes that are Asian-only (usually because they have Japanese names), but I don't know of any other that has a specific counterpart. Although I'd argue that Bishōnen and Pretty Boy are separate tropes anyway.

I found Sound-Coded for Your Convenience today, and I'm wondering if this is truly video game specific. It seems to me that other mediums can use sound to help you tell things apart - I believe Audible Sharpness uses different pitches to tell you how sharp and large the weapon is, no?

The gameplay mechanic might be a valid subtrope, though.

edited 26th Mar '12 10:08:47 AM by ccoa

Does Leit Motif count for that?

edited 26th Mar '12 12:13:34 PM by Deboss

Leitmotif (one word) is a sister trope to it. It's a musical number that's associated with a character, but it doesn't appear every time the character does and Sound-Coded for Your Convenience includes a lot of things that aren't music.

It's especially important to game design, particularly as a feedback mechanisim, where sound is an important indicator of what's happening and the effect of what you're doing. But yeah, the title should belong to a broader trope, and Leitmotif plus the video game trope (Audio Feedback ?) should be its subtropes.

For a transplant and a supertrope that'll most likely need a YKTTW, does this need a TRS thread?

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:09:36 PM by Jicragg

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edited 29th Mar '12 12:25:01 AM by Raso

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:08:01 PM by Jicragg