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Ah, ok, I see where you're coming from. The thing is that conciseness means being as short as possible and no shorter. If you make the name too short, it's no longer concise; it's cryptic. Anyway, clarity always trumps conciseness.
This does seem like an awfully narrow and specific trope, though. But I can't think of an easy way to broaden it without making it something else.
edited 23rd Sep '11 12:43:05 AM by Xtifr
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I notice there was never any misuse checking on this (in case anyone's interested in that, SP crowner won without it).
But with only 27 wikilinks, let me give a quick full report:
Move Along, Nothing to See Here: Correct usage of the trope (or exempt from checking altogether)
- Added Alliterative Appeal
- Applied Phlebotinum
- Classical Mythology (Trope Namer claim, since the name is a reference to classical myth)
- It.ElencoProvvisorioD-G
- Event Horizon
- Forbidden Planet (Trope Namer claim)
- Pages Needing Images
Something smells rotten in the state of Denmark: Looks like Square Peg Round Trope to me, but I can't entirely tell from the given context.
- De.Der Funken Wahrheit
- Go Mad from the Isolation (Legion Of Superheroes)
- K 19 The Widowmaker (No context given)
- Legion Of Superheroes
- Skies Of Arcadia
- Special Effect Failure
- Take Our Word for It
Wrong On So Many Levels: Absolutely misuse, fixed/excised on sight with its original context as follows:
- Bathroom Stall of Overheard Insults: "Moaning Myrtle overheard Tom Riddle open the way to the Chamber of Secrets in parseltongue, but when she opened the door to confront him over being in the girls bathroom she ended up killed by some literal [[strike:Gorgon]] err, [[GorgonGazing Basilisk Gazing.]]"
- Brown Note: "The Elephant's Foot", a formation of reactor core lava in Chernobyl... the robot they sent to take photos of the reactor core lava had its circuits fried due to radiation, while a human could move quickly through the same hallway as long as he did not look into the [[GorgonGazing open doorway itself.]]"
- Characters.Classical Mythology: "Medusa/Gorgons. Gorgon Gazing: Duh."
- He Man And The Masters Of The Universe: "Snake Face's power. Naturally, this is turned against him just one episode after his debut; the writers claim he had to be taken out quickly and permanently because that ability is just too much."
- Monster High: "Gorgon Gazing: Deuce's stare can only turn people into stone for about a day, then it wears off."
- Older Than Dirt: "Gorgon Gazing (involving a real Gorgon; Trope Namer)"
- Taken for Granite: "This was the [[GorgonGazing Gorgon]] Medusa's trademark move, making this Older Than Dirt."
Also note that if this trope is specifically a scene, then it's got misuse both in related wikilinks and in-page examples. Let's see:
Scene showing off a shielded power source
- Event Horizon
- Ice Station Zebra
- Last Exile
- Halo: The Fall Of Reach
Unable to tell for sure
- Doctor Who
- Outlaw Star
- Sunshine
- Disney's Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea
- Star Trek II
- Western Animation: Star Trek
Ordinary, direct exposure to hazardous/fatal energy
- Classical Mythology (Perseus and Medusa)
- K 19 The Widowmaker
- Legion Of Superheroes
- Indiana Jones: Raiders Of The Lost Ark (you know the scene)
- Heinlein's The Green Hills Of Earth
- The Real Life section
Is it too late to suggest Too Rare To Trope? Seriously, between in-page examples and related wikilinks we have only five works which are unquestionably correct examples of the definition.
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edited 23rd Sep '11 12:47:04 PM by Stratadrake
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I can think of a few correct examples off the top of my head, depending on how specific the trope is. If we expand it slightly to mean "Scene where they show off a cool but dangerous thing (such as a shiny new weapon)," we'd get lots of examples. I think that's treated exactly the same as showing off a dangerous power source.
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Also prefer slight expansion.
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The Brown Note example seems like it could be Square Peg Round Trope too. (Not that that helps.)
If we're going to broaden it, we should definitely discuss what we want first, because there are several possibilities, each of which ends up with a quite different trope.
1) (my initial thought) showing off something that's ordinarily dangerous just to look at.
2) (what Discar seems to have thought) showing off something that's seriously intimidating.
3) drop the "showing off part" and just make it about the scary, glowy, dangerous-to-look-at ship's power source.
4) drop the "showing off" and the "ship" part, and make it about scary, glowy, dangerous-to-look-at power sources in general.
5) ...other options?
Anything like this should probably go through YKTTW, of course. Another option, if it's really Too Rare To Trope, is to just cut it and let people take any broader variants they like to YKTTW as they see fit.
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I'm not sure why this has to be as specific as a spaceship's power source, when we don't have the supertrope of "something that is dangerous even to look at", like the titular Gorgon. I've got a YKTTW going for that ("Avert Your Gaze"), but we could perhaps just rework this one.
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^^Xtifr: And then like john says, there's #6) Anything that is hazardous to look at directly, for whatever reason.
edited 6th Oct '11 8:02:16 AM by Stratadrake
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Calling the crowner at +5 (yeas:13 nays:8) (1.63 : 1) for Showing Off the Perilous Power Source. It's not a 2:1 supermajority, but it's miles ahead of the next closest.
Make the change, fix the wicks, move the subpages, add it to Renamed Tropes, Holler for a discussion move once the new page is made, and make the old one a redirect for now.
This thread gets locked when all the work is done.
edited 27th Oct '11 9:45:41 AM by Madrugada
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The problem is the trope has so many constituient elements that it puts conciseness at direct odds with clarity (and vice versa).
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