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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#1: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:05:15 PM

In order to ward off a de-rail in the "Your Author Appeal/Creator Thumbprint" thread, I created this.

So, how do you handle cursing in your works?

edited 6th Jun '11 12:05:28 PM by chihuahua0

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#2: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:06:39 PM

I use it like I do most forms of dialogue.

Sloppily, but with effort.

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#3: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:07:12 PM

I neither avoid it nor throw it in for the sake of it. They're like any other words to me.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:07:24 PM by annebeeche

Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
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#4: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:09:49 PM

Depends on the story. If I want to make it all-ages, I'll avoid swearing, usually by just writing around it but sometimes by using translated or made-up words. But some more "adult" stories benefit from strong language and the characters would seem insufficiently emotionally invested if they didn't swear sometimes ("well darn, our life support systems are down").

edited 6th Jun '11 12:10:07 PM by jewelleddragon

Gault Laugh and grow dank! from beyond the kingdom Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
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#5: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:11:14 PM

It's largely setting-dependent for me. Since most of my settings involve warfare, it's pretty common.

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#6: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:12:18 PM

Since I don't curse in real life (I can say thinks like dumb, idiot, and jerk, but not stupid, crap, hell, etc.) I tend to not use it a lot. I usually use what a lot of Young Adult authors use by saying, "he/she cursed, '[insert dialogue here]'". If my character do curse, it's either a mild Precision F-Strike (Oh crap, Justin thought) or they just naturally use mild swears.

Excess use of it makes me uncomfortable, but a good amount of use to it makes the dialogue more realistic.

I don't use made-up swears, since most works only make one and use it all the time (D'Arvit, frak). The only work that executes it greatly is The Maze Runner, which uses three swears.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:14:05 PM by chihuahua0

Dealan Since: Feb, 2010
#7: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:18:47 PM

[up]Stupid and hell are considered strong curses? Wow, I've always been using them when I wanted mild ones.

Personally I don't mind using cursing, It feels stupid idioty to avoid cursing when a character logically would. Same with reading, though I usually don't mind stuff like "he cursed". Though at least be a little more imaginative with the alternatives.

As far as cencory goes, I find it only acceptable when they're replaced with @%*&#! like these. When used in places where you don't expect it, (Heroes, for example) it's hilarious.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#8: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:20:23 PM

For some reason, the word stupid sounds strong to me compared with crap and hell. I don't know why.

Crap and hell is sort in the low-moderate tier of curse words (PG). Words like b****** and b**** I would say low-strong (PG-13).

Symbol swearing? Nah...Too narmy.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:22:07 PM by chihuahua0

Dealan Since: Feb, 2010
#9: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:23:44 PM

Hmmm... can someone give examples of high curse words then?

(As for the symbols, it goes without saying they are only acceptable when used for comedic effect.)

edited 6th Jun '11 12:24:42 PM by Dealan

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#10: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:30:03 PM

if a situation is serious, i wont use any. even characters known for swearing wont swear.

hopefully it'll create the effect of Let's Get Dangerous!

but for the most part i just think swearing in a story that takes itself seriously ruins the atmosphere, possibly because i dont want to trust the readers to not turn into 7 or 13 year olds who think swear words are inherently funny

Gault Laugh and grow dank! from beyond the kingdom Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
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#11: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:31:24 PM

I think the high ones would be things like fuck, shit, bitch, motherfucker, asshole and cocksucker.

When in doubt, stick with George Carlin's Big 7.

Also, possibly assblaster, though I don't think that's in common enough use to qualify.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:32:11 PM by Gault

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#12: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:35:24 PM

In Endless Conflict characters swear like soldiers just when you'd expect it too!

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Dealan Since: Feb, 2010
#13: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:35:44 PM

Fuuuuuuuck I use asshole as mild one too. Not to mention fuck. Or shit. Or bitch.

Swearing is Serious Business in English, apparently.

Dec Stayin' Alive from The Dance Floor Since: Aug, 2009
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#14: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:39:22 PM

Whenever I would curse, my characters curse. Sometimes I'll go and edit it out later, when it's getting too heavy or isn't appropriate to the character, but it's still there. I very often slip into Sophisticated as Hell along the line too, just because that's what I do when I'm relaxed.

I also do the whole "Alice cursed, throwing the box to the side." sort of thing as a stand in during fights and tense situations. Especially where what bad words they're making a string of doesn't really matter, just the fact that they realize they're fucked.

Probably the only one I don't use on a regular basis, outside of racial slurs, is c***. I can't even type it out — it feels like I'm breaking a really bad rule, and should be ashamed of even trying.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:42:37 PM by Dec

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Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#15: Jun 6th 2011 at 1:10:55 PM

I have fun making up racial slurs and insults for my more species-diverse works. They get... um.. they're very crude, as these sorts of things are wont to be.

I myself am reasonably desensitized to curse words. The only one that I ever did a double-take at ("cunt") was recently made a normal word thanks to The Book of Mormon. [lol] There's no reason, except for the sake of gearing a book towards a younger audience, why I can't have the characters swear the paint off the walls if it makes sense for them to.

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#16: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:05:51 PM

But some more "adult" stories benefit from strong language and the characters would seem insufficiently emotionally invested if they didn't swear sometimes ("well darn, our life support systems are down").

This, pretty much.

Although I suppose most of my works lately have been not entirely serious, so narm hasn't been a concern for me.

Sort of relevant: Has anyone seen In Bruges? If yes, did you feel that the constant swearing helped or hurt the humor? IMO it helped, since it was so over the top.

^^ I think it's a little weird that people use cock/dick so liberally, but not cunt. Not a big deal, just a thing of curiosity.

edited 6th Jun '11 3:06:55 PM by melloncollie

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#17: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:11:02 PM

I don't swear in real life, ever. So I'm more then a little reluctant to put swearing in my works. I will have curses when it seems appropriate for the characters and the situation, though - saying "Bob swore" at a "Precision F-Strike Moment" would be a little jarring to read. I write my works only for myself, so I'm not worried about keeping things age-appropriate - but I'll only write things that offend myself if I feel it's actually necessary (which is also the main reason I've never written a sex scene - very few can't just be skipped over with a Sex Discretion Shot to achieve the same narrative purpose).

In more comedic works, like my comics, I will have fun with censorship.

Edit: Sex Discretion Shot isn't a trope?

edited 6th Jun '11 3:11:28 PM by nrjxll

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#18: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:17:42 PM

[up] It's Sexy Discretion Shot, but Redirects Are Free.

I perfer the "he swore" method, since a lot of Young Adult books use it, and that's the genre I'm writing in.

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#19: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:33:18 PM

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IN BRUGES IS THE BEST FILM EVERRRRR

edited 6th Jun '11 3:33:27 PM by annebeeche

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Dec Stayin' Alive from The Dance Floor Since: Aug, 2009
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#20: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:59:45 PM

I think it's a little weird that people use cock/dick so liberally, but not cunt. Not a big deal, just a thing of curiosity.
I agree — I'm pretty sure it's more of a social conditioning thing than anything. Part of it is that other strong swear words — fuck especially — has been played around with so much on the internet and with my friends that it looses some of the impact. Things like "cock-gobbler" and "man-whore" just make the words sound silly, and while the words are still dirty, they're dirty in a way that's kinda fun.

But I've never heard the c-word played around with like that in real life, partly because no one I've met IRL uses it period. Because of that, however, it's like the last sanctified dirty word in my head, and is probably the last word that people could shock me with by saying. And considering my tolerance levels to cursing, that's really weird on my end.

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Seamus Another Perfect Day from the Quantum Savanna Since: Jul, 2009
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#21: Jun 6th 2011 at 4:27:51 PM

I'm pretty bad about swearing in my writing. I censored it for a short while, before finding ways around the stronger ones ("He muttered his favorite four letter word" is pretty effective, I think, and it amuses me for some reason). Recently, though, (specifically, right before writing a scene wherein one character who's supposed to swear like a sailor is burned) I realized not writing it was a form of limiting myself.

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#22: Jun 6th 2011 at 4:31:47 PM

^^ Heh, I get what you mean. Despite what I've been saying I still do the double-take when someone actually says cunt out loud in actual conversation, mostly because it's unexpected.

^^^ INORITE WE SHOULD WATCH IT TOGETHER SOMETIME

"He muttered his favorite four letter word"
This amuses me also, if that helps. Dunno how well it would do in a serious work though.

edited 6th Jun '11 4:32:08 PM by melloncollie

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Seamus Another Perfect Day from the Quantum Savanna Since: Jul, 2009
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#24: Jun 6th 2011 at 4:43:35 PM

This amuses me also, if that helps. Dunno how well it would do in a serious work though.
I've only used it in serious stuff, but it's been comic relief every time.

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animemetalhead Runs on Awesomeness from Ashwood Landing, ME Since: Apr, 2010
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#25: Jun 6th 2011 at 4:45:07 PM

I swear quite frequently, so I actually have to dial it back in my writing. Most of the time, when writing dialogue, I just have to really get into the character's head and write what they would say.

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