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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#851: Jul 8th 2011 at 4:13:38 PM

I like the collapsing/expanding comments. Will edits show up as a note at the top in one box or how will that work?

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
Brony? Moi? surely you jest!
#852: Jul 8th 2011 at 4:16:28 PM

Where would we be able to view the old troper tales?

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nuclearneo577 from My computer. Since: Dec, 2009
#853: Jul 8th 2011 at 5:09:28 PM

[up]Yes, they will not be moved, just locked,

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#854: Jul 8th 2011 at 5:27:53 PM

The archive piece is not installed yet. It will be like the archived discussion pages.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#855: Jul 8th 2011 at 6:45:01 PM

Would it be OK if I eliminated some negative post under a slightly positive one on a mostly positive page? Would that be considered natter if all it does is criticize something related to the original post, even if it does provide an example of a trope?

I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#856: Jul 8th 2011 at 8:29:35 PM

Few notes:

1: Right now the poster is called "FastEddie". Shouldn't spaces be added? (And any custom-titled names be used?)

2: I understand and agree with the reasons for having large poster names, but also think it should still be a touch smaller. It seems rather in-your-face about it, right now.

3: If possible, can a Preview function be added for writing new posts?

4. I think it'd look cleaner if the comments had smaller boxes than the main Tale box. While I'm on the subject, I also think that huge Troper names aren't needed for the comments, but that's just my opinion.

Looks great, Eddie. grin Be looking forward to this being implemented.

edited 8th Jul '11 8:30:31 PM by Unknownlight

KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
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#857: Jul 8th 2011 at 8:36:48 PM

Agreed, I get the reasoning behind the large troper names on the tales, but I think the comment names could safely be a little smaller. As well as the actual troper names, but I understand why it's the way it is.

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Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#858: Jul 8th 2011 at 8:39:59 PM

Also: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/tales.php?trope=Main.YouFailBiologyForever

Custom-titled tropes need to be recognized.

I know the page is unfinished, but I'm just mentioning this in case you forgot.

TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
Diagonalizing The Matrix
#859: Jul 9th 2011 at 6:29:05 AM

Dropping in to mention something that has been bothering me for a while: the "stories about Insert Trope Here in troper's lives" format at the top has grammar issues.

#1 AFAIK it should be " tropers' "; #2 some trope names cause further grammar wreckage

For example, the Abandoned Hospital Troper Tales page currently reads: "Here we have true stories about Abandoned Hospital in troper's lives. What are yours?"

The easiest way I can think of to fix both issues is to change it into "Here we have true stories about the "Insert Trope Here" trope in tropers' lives. What are yours?"

edited 9th Jul '11 6:32:55 AM by TripleElation

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#860: Jul 9th 2011 at 3:28:39 PM

Triple: The way you did it sounds good to me.

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FrodoGoofballCoTV from Colorado, USA Since: Jan, 2001
#861: Jul 13th 2011 at 6:52:39 AM

This is excellent. My main concern at this point is Troper Tales for things like Cloud Cuckoolander getting so many entries they become unmanageable.

edited 13th Jul '11 8:17:33 AM by FrodoGoofballCoTV

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#862: Jul 13th 2011 at 9:23:17 AM

Looks like we'll be switching over to the new system later tonight. When that happens, all troper tales UR Ls will lead to a page saying 'none entered, yet' (effectively). The archived old stuff will be available through a link, and the source of the archive will be available from a button on the archive display.

An archive look like this.

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#863: Jul 13th 2011 at 9:25:46 AM

Will we have to change our watchlist, or will the new system will use the same links? I had to change a few items on my watchlist after the rename to Headscratchers.

nuclearneo577 from My computer. Since: Dec, 2009
#864: Jul 13th 2011 at 11:12:53 AM

So how will we deal with pages like Fetish Fuel?

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#865: Jul 13th 2011 at 11:16:51 AM

They'll do like they do today. The troper tales link just sends you back the main page.

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#866: Jul 13th 2011 at 11:24:11 AM

Question!

In the new system, could responses to the effect of "Are you me?" be counted as natter, and subsequently cut?

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#867: Jul 13th 2011 at 11:31:13 AM

I dunno. The new system hides natter a good bit better. It may not be hurting anything, since you have to actively seek it out.

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#868: Jul 13th 2011 at 11:33:55 AM

Eddie, I think the question is whether the Watchlist will show when edits are being made to a watched Troper Tales article, like it does now. How do you "watch" a page under the new system, anyway? Unlike things like Discussion, it seems that a person watching a trope might not necessarily want to always and automatically watch its Troper Tales page. In retrospect, we should have thought of this earlier... unless you did.

edited 13th Jul '11 11:35:28 AM by Fighteer

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#869: Jul 13th 2011 at 11:33:57 AM

I don't see how "are you me?" alone is ever not natter; it's the first-person version of X Just X

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TheJackal Lurker from the UK Since: Dec, 2009
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#871: Jul 13th 2011 at 2:25:51 PM

What about Troper Tales pages that have been added to the Permanent Red Link Club? Is there anything in place to prevent the creation of new tales for cut and locked pages, because that could potentially be a problem now the system's been reset.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#872: Jul 14th 2011 at 6:44:34 AM

That's been handled. We didn't install last night. It should be going in in the next hour or so.

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AdelePotter susie. from the worst timeline Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
susie.
#873: Jul 14th 2011 at 10:53:50 AM

I... really like Troper Tales. Why are we messing with a good thing?

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
Faith in the self.
#874: Jul 14th 2011 at 10:55:05 AM

Oh, Jesus, this is done already, there's no point in complaining about it, and you should read the thread to get the reasons, by now.

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nuclearneo577 from My computer. Since: Dec, 2009
#875: Jul 14th 2011 at 12:04:18 PM

Well I guess I got the First Post for Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch, but there seems to be a problem. My handle was created as nuclearneo577, so the link to my page is screwed up. Also, Fetish Fuel is not redirecting properly.

edited 14th Jul '11 12:05:32 PM by nuclearneo577


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