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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#17201: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:40:44 AM

Wait, so is there a "Kinetic" archetype, or a "Cipher" archetype?

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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#17202: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:42:10 AM

Cipher.

It's Kite's new archetype in Arc-V, and what was called "Kinetic Soldier" in the US was actually "Cipher Soldier" in Japan and part of the new archetype because of it's name, so the change reflects that.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#17203: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:35:45 PM

Does this mean we might see Kite use Cipher Soldier?

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#17204: Nov 5th 2016 at 9:26:04 PM

No more than we might see Rafael use Guardian Statue or Skull Guardian.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17205: Nov 5th 2016 at 9:45:01 PM

To be fair, Cipher Soldier is actually useful against Utopia stuff(bar Lightning) due to being anti-Warrior. But it's not useful for the other Cipher cards that much. It just happens to be part of the same archtype.

Just like Thunder Dragon isn't useful with the Hunder cards very much. Still the same archtype.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17207: Nov 6th 2016 at 12:08:14 PM

That last effect is honestly amazing. Getting their big boss out just like that? Nice. I do like you have to have a Raidraptors Xyz material to activate it. Otherwise it'd be a braindead summoning tool like Ptoleameus/Cyber-Stein/Metamorphosis/Bahamut Shark/Magical Scientist(albeit Scientist requires slightly more thought sometimes).

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#17208: Nov 6th 2016 at 3:38:59 PM

Ruriraptors Rank-Up-Magic searcher when?
Seriously, it's the only thing keeping RRs from being consistent.

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#17209: Nov 9th 2016 at 11:31:27 AM

SSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOO...what is the best deck to use for a beginner?

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CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17210: Nov 9th 2016 at 4:02:16 PM

Dark Magician is pretty easy to build and play.

EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#17211: Nov 9th 2016 at 4:08:01 PM

A Venom Burn deck is pretty straight forward. It might not be Tier 1, but the basics of piloting it aren't too difficult.

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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#17212: Nov 9th 2016 at 4:37:22 PM

Of course Evii suggests Venom Burn.

edited 9th Nov '16 4:37:33 PM by Krika

EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#17213: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:06:03 PM

I will not stand for this bullying, Krika. Turbo Turbo decks are also a good place to start, if you're not a fan of burn decks.

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
TehStanman Master Saboteur from Standard Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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#17214: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:12:03 PM

If you're going to play Venom Burn, don't forget to include their newest boss monster: Starve Venom Fusion Dragon![lol]

In all seriousness, I would suggest you start with a Starter Deck or a Structure Deck to get used to the game. Then once you have a better idea of how the game works, tinker with the deck to practice your deck-building skills.

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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#17215: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:16:05 PM

To take a moment to give actually good advice, Stan's suggestion is solid. When I got back in after leaving pre-GX, I just sort of played with a bunch of older cards and weened my way into the more current ones. Playing a deck with a clear win condition (read: Battlin' Boxers) can help iron out understanding of the rules and learn the importance of win conditions. Branching out, you can start to look at slightly more complex decks (read: Archfiends).

Just avoid Chain Beat. That deck requires judge-level knowledge of rule interactions to get a hang of.

Speaking of rules, try one of the free online simulators or even Konami's official one. All of them handle the rules so you don't need to worry about messing them up.

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#17216: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:43:11 PM

Don't listen to these scrubs.

Play Tellarknights.

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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#17217: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:14:07 PM

I'd suggest Gladiator Beasts, but while not complicated, I wouldn't call them a beginner's deck.

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#17218: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:57:09 PM

Zombies?

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#17220: Nov 10th 2016 at 11:54:53 AM

I think a Six Samurai would be a good starter deck. It isn't too complicated, but it has you effectively use stuff like chains, comboing summons, special summons, and tokens. Plus it isn't a terrible deck.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17221: Nov 10th 2016 at 5:39:09 PM

Hey guess what? The most singularly useless monster in the game is finally coming to the TCG! RAAAAAAAAAAARE FIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSHHHHH! If you didn't know, he's a weak vanilla Fusion monster that requires another weak vanilla Fusion monster to make him.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17222: Nov 10th 2016 at 5:45:04 PM

Wow, that's one of the last cards I'd thought would get a TGC print.

edited 10th Nov '16 5:47:08 PM by VeryMelon

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17223: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:05:25 PM

It's a target for Instant Fusion, which allows you to get it out as a Level 4 Water, making it perfect for Bahamut Shark, and unlike Norden, is at 3.

It's not useless whatsoever due to Xyz stuff.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#17224: Nov 10th 2016 at 10:27:30 PM

You know what I want to see?

"I activate Polymerization! Rarest of the most valuable fish roaring beneath the sea, combine with the wicked knight of dragons to give way to a new, golden rarity! Fusion Summon - Incredibly Rare Fish!"

[Level 6 / 2000 / 2000]


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