History YMMV / LizPhair

** "Bollywood" from ''Funstyle''. Naturally, there are people who hate Liz's odd foray into hip-hop. Others find it a clever and witty song about how she became a score composer.

* LesYay: The ''Girly Sound'' version of "Flower" contains the line "I'll fuck you and your girlfriend too."

* WTHCastingAgency: Liz, known for singing songs about fellatio and sexual promiscuity, appeared on ''The Body Rocks'', an album about teaching bodily functions to kids. She was asked to perform by her friend and main driving force of the album Doc Dauer, though. She's not a stranger to singing about bodily functions either.

* VindicatedByHistory: The ''Liz Phair'' album has actually received some [[https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/rediscover-liz-phair-album-2003/ positive]] [[https://riotfest.org/2018/09/exile-in-criticville-liz-phair/ re-evaluation]] by music critics in the years following its release. Even the critic who gave the album its infamous 0.0 rating for Pitchfork [[https://twitter.com/mattlemay/status/1169739122451386371 has different feelings]] about it now and regrets the drubbing.

* BrokenBase: Those who only like her indie phase, those who only like her pop-rock phase, and those who like both.
** "Bollywood." Naturally, there are people who hate Liz's odd foray into hip-hop. Others find it a clever and witty song about how she became a scorer.

%%* FirstInstallmentWins

* BrokenBase - Those who only like her indie phase, those who only like her pop-rock phase, and those who like both.

* CrossesTheLineTwice – "White Babies", which is about the protagonist getting someone to bring her white babies from the black market.

--> Ken (the interviewer): For the record, when I first heard "U Hate It", I immediately thought of Chicago critic Jim [=DeRogatis=].
--> Liz: Well I am absolutely positively 500% sure he does, in fact, hate it.

--> I keep threatening to do "Bollywood" in between songs, if something goes wrong with the equipment or if the guys are busy behind me. Then I’d be, like, "I was trippin’ lookin’ at my port-foh-lee-ah …" Half because it would make people laugh and half because for people who can’t handle that sound, they’ll be like, "(Gasp), She isn’t!"
* LesYay - The ''Girly Sound'' version of "Flower" contains the line "I'll fuck you and your girlfriend too."
* MisBlamed - Matador Records dumped Liz onto Capitol Records, who wouldn't give her money to record an album unless she worked with mainstream producers and made a pop album. Despite this, "fans" still whine about how she willingly and completely "sold out."
* SignatureSong - "Never Said", "Flower", "Fuck and Run", possibly "Why Can't I?" & "Extraordinary".
* SophomoreSlump - ''Whip-Smart'' wasn't as critically acclaimed as ''Exile in Guyville'', but was a financial success that expanded her fanbase.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks - Pretty much every post-''Exile in Guyville'' album, but 2003's blatantly, unapologetically commercial ''Liz Phair'' especially alienated her established fanbase.
* ToughActToFollow - After ''Exile in Guyville'', critics certainly think so.
* VindicatedByHistory - The ''Liz Phair'' album has actually received some [[https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/rediscover-liz-phair-album-2003/ positive]] [[https://riotfest.org/2018/09/exile-in-criticville-liz-phair/ re-evaluation]] by music critics in the years following its release. Even the critic who gave the album its infamous 0.0 rating for Pitchfork [[https://twitter.com/mattlemay/status/1169739122451386371 has different feelings]] about it now and regrets the drubbing.
* WTHCastingAgency – Liz, known for singing songs about fellatio and sexual promiscuity, appeared on ''The Body Rocks'', an album about teaching bodily functions to kids. She was asked to perform by her friend and main driving force of the album Doc Dauer, though. She's not a stranger to singing about bodily functions either.

* VindicatedByHistory - The ''Liz Phair'' album has actually received some [[https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/rediscover-liz-phair-album-2003/ positive]] [[https://riotfest.org/2018/09/exile-in-criticville-liz-phair/ re-evaluation]] by music critics in the years following its release.

* EarWorm
** Everytime I see your face, I think of things unpure, unchaste. I want to fuck you like a dog. I'll take you home and make you like it.
** Fuck and run! Fuck and run! Even when I was se-ven-teen.
** Give it to me, don't give it away!
*** Gimme your hot white cum~
** Let's smoke all night!
** Wanna take a look? Take a look.
** He's got a really big tongue. It rolls ''waaaaaaaaaaaaaay'' out.
** I AM EXTRAORDINARY, IF YOU EVER GET TO KNOW ME!
*** I am just your ordinary average everyday sane psycho supergoddess.
** Why can't I breathe whenever I think about you?
** "Do you wanna be a polyester bride?"
** Johnny Feelgood, Johnny Right On...
** Oh baby, know what you're like?
*** You're like my favorite underwear! It just feels right, you know it.
** If you asked me why I lie to you...
** The six dick pimp is just doing his job...
** Baby, baby, baby, if it's al-''riiiiight'',
*** Want you to '''''ROCK ME AAAAAAAAAALL NIGHT!'''''
** ''IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'' never said nothing!
** 'Cause you're a human supernova...
** He's just a hero, in a long line of heroes...
%%* [[FirstInstallmentWins First Album Wins]]

* PainfulRhyme - In "U Hate It":
-->Uh oh, I think I'm a genius
-->Uh oh, you're being a ''penis'' [[note]]'Penis' is pronounced "penius" to rhyme with 'genius.'[[/note]]

** He's just a hero, in a long line of heroes...

* VindicatedByHistory - ''Liz Phair'' has actually received some [[https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/rediscover-liz-phair-album-2003/ positive]] [[https://riotfest.org/2018/09/exile-in-criticville-liz-phair/ re-evaluation]] by music critics in the years following its release.

* DeaderThanDisco: Once ''the'' queen of indie pop/rock, her reputation was very badly damaged after her 2003 SelfTitledAlbum saw her compromising her indie roots for a more commercial pop/rock sound in the vein of Music/AvrilLavigne. While the album did give the singer her first Top 40 hit with "Why Can't I?", it would also prove to be her [[OneHitWonder only Top 40 hit.]] After 2005's ''Somebody's Miracle'' and 2010's ''Funstyle'' flopped both critically and commercially, she is now recognized as a prime example of the dangers of alienating your core fanbase for the sake of mainstream appeal.

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Exile in Guyville'' didn't get mounds of critical praise for nothing. ''whitechocolatespaceegg'' is awesome too.
* BigNameFan – Ken Lee, who runs a [[http://www.mesmerizingtoo.com fan site]] that Liz is very fond of. He interviewed Liz twice, and sent her a list of what songs she should include on the upcoming ''Girlysound'' disc. She almost entirely used it.

* [[FirstInstallmentWins First Album Wins]]

* SophomoreSlump - ''Whip-Smart'' wasn't as critically acclaimed as ''Exile in Guyville''.

* WTHCastingAgency – Liz, known for singing songs about fellatio and sexual promiscuity, appeared on ''The Body Rocks'', an album about teaching bodily functions to kids. She was asked to perform by her friend and main driving force of the album Doc Dauer, though. She's not a stranger to singing about bodily functions either.

* CriticProof - ''Liz Phair'' made her a piñata for critics, but "Why Can't I?", the album's lead single, gave Liz her only Top 40 hit to date. Oddly subverted, considering that it's popular with people who aren't/weren't familiar with her indie queen past.

* FanDumb - Let's just say that "fans" conveniently forget that ''whitechocolatespaceegg'' is also a form of pop.

* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
--> Ken (the interviewer): For the record, when I first heard "U Hate It", I immediately thought of Chicago critic Jim [=DeRogatis=].
--> Liz: Well I am absolutely positively 500% sure he does, in fact, hate it.
** We can't find out though, because [=DeRogatis=] never reviewed the album...
** Also this:
--> I keep threatening to do "Bollywood" in between songs, if something goes wrong with the equipment or if the guys are busy behind me. Then I’d be, like, "I was trippin’ lookin’ at my port-foh-lee-ah …" Half because it would make people laugh and half because for people who can’t handle that sound, they’ll be like, "(Gasp), She isn’t!"
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome - ''Exile in Guyville'' didn't get mounds of critical praise for nothing. ''whitechocolatespaceegg'' is awesome too.

* NeedsMoreLove - If you were to look at ''Liz Phair'' & ''Somebody's Miracle'' for what they are instead of what they "should" be, then they are in dire need of being appreciated & loved.

* CriticalDissonance - ''Liz Phair'' made her a piñata for critics, but "Why Can't I?", the album's lead single, gave Liz her only Top 40 hit to date. Oddly subverted, considering that it's popular with people who aren't/weren't familiar with her indie queen past.

-->Uh oh, you're being a ''penis'' [[hottip:* :'Penis' is pronounced "penius" to rhyme with 'genius.']]

* AndTheFandomRejoiced - Liz releasing a disc of ''Girlysound'' songs with the physical release of ''Funstyle''. It was the first official release to include material from the tapes since ''Juvenilia''.