Mantorok opposes any sort of killing or enslaving of humans.In the Something Awful LP of this game, user Antilles posted this: "Mantorok is the god of chaos, right? IMO, between exterminating/enslaving humanity and letting us do as we wish, the latter choice is the most chaotic."
Humanity is Mantorok's horrors.Another S.A. user had this theory that humans are in fact created by Mantorok. Humans die easily but create unprecedented amounts of damage with weaponry. Just as Mantorok rules over all, humans can use all magic with the proper runes, unlike the others who are stuck to one alignment. The bonethieves were created to destroy Mantorok horrors by hiding from within. "Also, the reason why all the gods intend to make an example of humanity if they win? They're doing it to spite Mantorok."
The zombies in Eternal Darkness aren't actual zombies.Rather, they're Guardians that take crude humanoid shapes. The zombies look nothing like the actual human corpses the characters encounter, can be summoned up from anywhere, and display abilities that human bodies really shouldn't have. What sort of corpse can regenerate lost limbs and heads, or replace them with green shadows?
333 is very significant in the gameNo duh, but in the first part of the game, after Alex wakes up from her nightmare, the clock reads 3:33, and in the Roivas Household, you are supposed to change the time on the grandfather clock in the library, if you fail 3 times, a ghostly whisper (Mantorok) tells you the number is 3:33, also, if you multiply 333 by 2, it becomes 666, familiar?
The ancients were at some point human, but Mantorok converted them to become his minions, which horribly, horribly failed.Eh, just felt like making this theory, get someone else to do this... Okay, I'm not lazy anymore, at some point, the Ancients were humans who excelled at something better than other humans, Chattur'gha was a man of power, but a man of war as well, wanting nothing more than it, Ulyaoth excelled at magick, drowning himself in this desire to become more powerful and more knowledgeable, whereas Xel'lotath just went nuts, and just became more and more unstable, the reasons they can be beaten, Ulyaoth can beat Chattur'gha because knowledge is power, Xel'lotath can defeat Ulyaoth because that's a little too much knowledge, and Chattur'gha can defeat Xel'lotath because they were former lovers (Which may be the reason Xel'lotath "just went nuts"), his real love was war. Mantorok decided to collect these three and convert them into gods PAINFULLY, they served him willingly for a while, but their memories returned, rediscovering their hatred for each other, Mantorok sealed them away, but he knew he could get them to destroy each other should they ever be released. This piece of work is a stab at what the ancients might have looked like if human.
There is a fifth ancient.Confirmed by the creators, but the spells it has seem to affect the environment, so it would probably be a reality warping Ancient.
Mantorok, in destroying the other Gods, has doomed himself to his sealed chamber for eternityThink about it. Pious sealed Mantorok using the power of one (or was it all?) of the other gods. Now that Mantorok killed all of them, no one is left (with the possible exception of the aforementioned reality warper) with enough power to free him. 9 pargons indeed.
The fifth ancient is the one that organized the relationship between the othersIn the beginning, this entity created the others for unspecified reasons; however, Ulyaoth, Xel'lotah, and Chattur'gha started causing problems, so the entity sealed them away and left Mantorok to keep things in line. Either it trusted Mantorok to be able to handle anything that could have happened, or it was too far advanced to care either way (it would effectively be to the ancients what the ancients are to man).
Pious the Lich was working for Mantorok all along.It's possible that even he didn't know about it, but Pious was clearly intended to be one of the Chosen Ones. Mantorok probably arranged for him to join up with the Ancients, work for two thousand years trying to free his master, only to make him to lose at the last possible minute, destroying the essence he holds and ensuring his masters death. When you see Mantorok's scheme to make the Ancients destroy each other, it becomes very, very likely he arranged something like this in order to get his plan to work.
Din, Farore and Nayru are related to or are the same entities as Chattur'gha, Ulyaoth and Xel'lotath.They share a color scheme and there is a similar balance of power in both groups, both are incredibly old and considered the gods of their respective worlds as well. Assuming LoZ and Eternal Darkness take place in the same universe then it's not much of a stretch that the three goddesses and the three ancients could either be the same or similar entities.
LoZ is the distant future of the Eternal Darkness universe.Some magickal cataclysm destroys society, and Alex somehow ends up acquiring the powers of Mantorok and/or Mystery Yellow Ancient. She uses those powers to save what remains of humanity, maybe spreading stories about three benevolent deities giving her those powers as a posthumous f***-you to Chattur'gha, Ulyaoth and Xel'lotath, ending up revered as a goddess herself. All goes well until a new threat appears, another individual with similar abilities, who she just barely defeats. Remembering a magickal weapon she created that could defeat him for good, Alex chooses to die and be reborn as a human in order to use the weapon...
Mantorok simply destroyed the other Ancients out of a sense of dutyIt's established that Mantorok's role in the pantheon is to keep the other three in check. When Pious Augustus condemns him to a slow death, he's weakened too much to continue to seal them... so as a last-ditch effort to complete his task, he kills them instead. Yes, he is stated to be plotting something in the "true" ending, but this is actually unrelated — he can just move on with whatever he has planned now that he's completed his obligations as the keeper and overseer of the Ancients.
Mantorok's plan is to kill off the yellow AncientRelated to the above, this is what Mantorok's unrelated scheme is. Now that he's dealt with his duties, he plans to kill off his equal and opposite number, mentioned in Word of God. Whether he has malevolent reasons for this, or it's simply so it won't be left unchecked when he inevitably dies is unknown at this point.
Mantorok and the fifth ancient are alliesAt first one could speculate the fifth ancient helped one of the others against Mantorok but in the true ending after three times through it turns out Mantorok ends up supreme. It is possible the fifth was manipulating Mantorok for its own purposes or provoking him to take action after for fun but the two of them could also be conspiring together.
Pious fell to the Ancients because he was too hardcore
The Yellow Aligned Ancient represents Life and Order
The Ancients aren't targeting humanity-at least, not in the game.
The What Could Have Been entry refers to two unsuccessful bearers of the Tome of Eternal Darkness.A Knight Templar and some person that has all the equipment for another character... they could be interpreted as two of the possible tens or hundreds or thousands of unsuccessful Chosen that we didn't get to play as because they failed. Constant arm-breaking punching out the Ancients unfortunately makes a lot of sense...
The Pillar of Flesh is a sacrifice to MantorokWe know that Mantorok is forced to eat humans to survive and we see him eat two monks with the worms in Ellia's chapter.The pillar of flesh is built over a sort of purple mist (the color of Mantorok magic), and the worms that come up from the mist to eat the slaves look just like the worms that eat the monks earlier. I'm not sure why Pious would sacrifice to Mantorok, though he does have to make sacrifices to the Black Guardian to keep it bound, so maybe he has to feed Mantorok to keep it bound as well.
The detective in the beginning was the fifth Ancient in disguise.
Dimentio is Ulyaoth.I played Eternal Darkness first, of course, but just looking at the character sheet for Ulyaoth after having played SPM made me laugh... and then be mortified at the idea. Alternately, he's Xel'lotath after going even more crazy as a result of whatever rites or process turned him into an Eldritch God-figure.
The Ancients are all legendary PokemonRed beats green, green beats blue and blue beats red, all of which are beaten by purple (dragon types). Sound familiar?
Mantorok is an apsect of WaluigiWaaaa!
Mantorok is related to Khali"Ugly", destructive, unfairly demonized even as it helps humanity and defends them from horrible other worldly invaders(by a psychologist who benefits from it no less) and created a temple full of suspiciously similar imagery? Either Mantorok is the Eternal Darkness equivalent of Khali, is her familiar(Pious hints of gods besides the Ancients in a Chattur'gha game), is an admirer or maybe even an aspect of her who missed out on immortality. Furthermore, a scene where Mantorok directly intervenes on a tome bearer's behalf is titled "In The Hand Of Kali" in the scene selection. Perhaps this was all a subtle take that at the Thugge cult's prominence in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom? Consider that it helps Indiana Jones stand in Lindsey and the form Mantorok's essence takes.
The Darkness is a black ancient.Who's to say there aren't plenty more ancients out there?
Dr. Lindsey had fought Eldritch Abominations before
The detective in the beginning was Pious in disguise.I can't get over two things about the detective: a) his creepy eyes, and b) a line he says: "It's a shame we couldn't meet under brighter circumstances." A) might just be the graphics, but B) always seems too suspicious to me. It makes a certain bit of sense, especially if you believe the WMG about Pious working for Mantorok all along. Actually, rethinking the eyes, the detective was almost certainly a bonethief if he wasn't Pious or the Fifth Ancient.
The Tome of Eternal Darkness has the power to translate languages.In his letters, Aaron Roivas mentions that he is unable to read the Tome, but at the start of Ellia's chapter, she can read the Tome with no problems. The only character likely to be fluent in all of the possible languages the Chosen speak is Pious, and that's the result of him being a litch with 2000-odd years at his disposal. The Chosen probably write their chapters in their native language and the Tome translates it for the next Chosen to read. However, this only works for the Chosen, since Aaron Roivas wasn't able to read it.
The curse in Chapter 3......is a Summon Zombie spell without an alignment rune; without an alignment to draw power from to create a zombie with, it makes one using what is already there. Extending from there, the yellow Ancient is a "wild card" alongside the other four, and not all of the monks in the chapter were affiliated with Pious's Ancient, different intentions and/or methodology explaining why the spell on the scroll was for turning a person into a zombie while Charlemagne was just plain killed - if nothing else, the Bishop was a yellow Ancient cultist lending his affiliation's support possibly in hopes of one of Mantorok's Chosen turning up and giving a chance to steal the Tome - whatever exactly he wanted it for.
The Yellow Ancient wanted to make Charlemagne immortal.The yellow-aligned spell in Chapter 3, which turned Anthony into a zombie and made him unable to die for centuries, was intended to make Charlemagne immortal (and the zombification was just an unwanted side effect). Unfortunately for the Yellow Ancient, Pious was determined to kill Charlemagne, and his cult got to him first.