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Chrono Trigger
The recording of the Day of Lavos is incomplete.
The recording show Lavos getting out of the ground and launching his attack at the same time, then stops. We don't know what happened latter though, or what made the world be destroyed. We assume it is just what is shown on the screen, but:
1- The scene is the one in the Lavos Ending, where the place is destroyed and evacuated mid-attack.
2- As said, the video is from Lavos coming to the surface... where it already is when Crono & Co. fight him, meaning it is already past the video.
Thus the real reason for the End of the World as We Know It happens latter.
Thus, if Crono and company saved the world there was a full footage of it somewhere, which Belthasar could very well have used — maybe even together with Lucca — to make them see that incomplete version during their accidental first time travel, sending them back to keep the cicle going and avoiding a paradox.
The Main Characters are now stuck in a never-ending time loop.
The motivation for them going after Lavos was witnessing the record of him burrowing to the surface in 1999 and destroying the world...which won't happen now that Lavos is dead. The ensuing time paradox caused the continuum to wrap back around itself, hence the New Game Plus. This also explains how Porre was able to take over Guardia in Chrono Cross - in the normal, unaltered timeline, the Mayor's ancestors weren't taught the value of sharing, and Crono et al are still happily reliving their halcyon days as saviors of the world. (Uh...I'll need more thought on how Lucca manages to start an orphanage and raise Kid.)
The Mystic-Human War was deliberately arranged to distract Magus.
In 12,000 B.C., mankind gets its hands on magic by tapping into Lavos's power. Eventually, however, they get too close to it, and Lavos responds by bringing Zeal to the ground and cutting off the power source. Janus, one of the queen's children, falls into around 580 A.D. and eventually becomes Magus, leader of the Mystics. Lavos is at least partially outside time (Chrono Cross establishes that it is aware of alternate timelines, thus the Cosmic Horror Story bit), and knows that Magus will eventually attempt to destroy it. Therefore, it alters human DNA so that certain humans will be able to wield magic... but are also hideous in the bargain. Man rejects them, and they become bitter about humanity. When Janus emerges in 580, a pointy-eared boy with magical talent, they embrace him as a leader. Thus he spends his life leading the Mystics in their war and not fighting Lavos; indeed, the Mystics come to think he created Lavos (witness Heckran's dying comments). By the time he tries to attack Lavos directly, Frog (and his allies) have broken into the fortress and interrupt him. Lavos's existence is secured.
The Chancellor and Emperor Gestahl are one and the same.
Seriously, take a look at them. Pretty strong resemblance, wouldn't you say? The main difference is hair color — obviously, some time after he went from Chancellor to Emperor, his hair turned white.
C(h)rono's last name is Trigger.
Somehow, I doubt the Chrono Trigger is the only eponymous thing.
Chrono coming back to life is canon.
Chrono Cross doesn't seem to drop any hints.
Lavos was artificially constructed by an alien race.
When you fight the inside of Lavos it looks less than organic. It looks like a machine, with cables connecting it to the shell. An alien race constructed Lavos as an interplanetary weapon and sent it to the Chrono Trigger planet, or Lavos revolted against its creators and launched itself into space, eventually coming to the Chrono Trigger planet.
Lavos was a Arena of Ages product.
The new DS Mini-Game has you breeding monsters, feeding them and equipping them with items to change states and having them fight each other, then training their skills in different time periods to evolve into stronger monsters. And apparently there's an entire sect of Time Travellers who do nothing but this. Lavos is a Million to One Chance evolution to the 7th Tier. The Time Devourer is then another Million to One Chance evolution to the 8th Tier; and he "equipped" Schala to do it. Since the Arena of Time was a Place Beyond Time, it's already native to Temporal Paradox and was totally at home in the Darkness Beyond Time.
Crono was not the one originally intended to be saved by the Trigger.
Gaspar said that the person has to be "important to the flow of time." Yet this version of Lavos can be defeated without Crono in the party! No, what the party was supposed to have done was rescue Schala instead. Yes, there are no Schala clones; Marle was supposed to have dyed her hair and relinquished her necklace. Both she and Chrono would have died, but the Time Devourer would not have come into existence.
Crono is from the future.
In 1999 AD, Crono's father is a scientist specializing in time travel. When a sudden increase in seismic activity hints at the approaching apocalypse, he sends his wife and son back to 1000 AD to avoid the cataclysm - and hopefully find a way to prevent it. Something goes wrong during the transition and both end up with amnesia. But because Crono finds himself inexplicably attracted to Lucca (a very intelligent and tech-savvy character, centuries ahead of her time) and Marle (a member of a very prominent family that's still going strong in the 'future'), Hilarity Ensues and they eventually end up saving the world.
Right after Crono went back after Marle, while attempting to replicate the results, Lucca was pulled into the Temporal Research Facility at Chronopolis to develop the Gate-Key. She returns, but chooses not to tell anyone.
Yes, she's good...but nobody is that good. Later she instantly knowing how to operate computers and fixing robots thousands of years into the future. She lectures about how robots are only evil when programmed that way as if she's deeply familiar with the subject; yet is supposedly from a medieval time period where nobody except her has ever programmed robots.
Lavos was afraid of humanity from the beginning
...and was retarding human evolution as a result, to keep it from getting too powerful. There is no other explanation for humanity remaining almost exactly the same in 65 million years, the time it took real-life humans to go from ratlike creatures to monkeylike creatures to apelike creatures to Homo sapiens sapiens. Also note that the only change Crono-verse humanity made was development of magic, which, in part, draws on Lavos, making it less likely to be useful against it than a development entirely under human control.
The "Entity" is actually the Integrated Thought Entity
Lavos, given his reality bending powers could be a self aware form of Haruhi. Or maybe Lucca or Schala is Haruhi, given both of their talents. The "pocket dimensions" are actually closed space and the magic is a result of the Entity. Possible interfaces include: Robo, Magus and Spekkio.
Crono is an Avatar.
Or some variant. This world divides them differently, though. Light, aka "Heaven" includes Air (Cyclone and Wind Slash) and Lightning. Instead of Earth, we have Shadow, which also results from mixing any of the other three. Crono is the earliest character that can use any element by teaming with his True Companions, because he's a natural at it. Furthermore, he's a fully realized avatar and enters the Avatar State when using Luminaire.
Time-Travel was different for Marle the first time because she didn't have a foci and the Gate wasn't fully developed.
She dropped her necklace before getting sucked into the portal. Thus she was susceptible to the Back to the Future disappearing effect. Similar actions later in the game don't have the same results because the Gates have solidified due to the Time Key.
The kid being chased by Alfador the cat after the Kingdom of Zeal collapses is Janus.
Originally as seen in Magus's flashback, Janus tried to rescue Schala with the help of the three Gurus. All four of them get sucked into different time portals. In his Anti-Villain way, Magus tried to save the Gurus from getting sucked into Gates by having them confined elsewhere. Thus this second time around, though, Janus doesn't get sucked into a Gate! Using the same powers to send the Necklace to Marle, she erases the "second" Janus memory (she really likes doing that), and removes his Zeal hairdye and make-up.
The Gurus never gave up seeking a way to defeat Lavos
If you look carefully, you'll notice that Magus, Melchior, and Belthasar all based themselves at around the same point on their respective World Maps, as does the Black Omen. We know this is true with Magus because he specifically worked to summon and destroy Lavos. Belthasar was near Death Peak (where Lavos' spawn were) working on the Epoch. His stated reason is to return home, but he also leaves behind a message for whoever claims Epoch asking them to save the world. Melchior was in the worst position, but remained at his home and it's no coincidence that one of the first things he does in-game is try to get ahold of Marle's pendant. Even Gaspar, at the End of Time, had a Gate specifically to go to the Day of Lavos set up and worked on his Time Egg, which proved of invaluable aid to those who would eventually defeat Lavos.
The kitty gags are all Crono's cat from the ending
The ending with the intact Epoch has Crono's cat running into the Gate just before it closes for good. Subsequently, all of the kitty gags throughout the game; the cat in the future sewer, the one that defeats Ozzie, etc, are Crono's cat having its own adventure across time and space.
Dalton didn't break the fourth wall when he said to stop the music
Lucca is a descendant of the Enlightened Ones.
Think about it. Blue hair with purple streaks was common amongst ladies in Zeal, and Lara actually had blue hair. There's also Lucca's somewhat reserved, intelligent and science-driven personality.
"English" in the game isn't the native human language.
The reptites in the past speak perfect English, but the humans speak it in a garbled manner plus mentioned a native language. "English" is the Reptite language that humans picked up and adopted as their own. Possibly even a in universe "Reptoid Conspiracy" is why it never changes. The Reptites maintain their language flawlessly, somehow, as part of their race, and force human "english" to remain relatively the same to make their conspiracy easier to pull off.
The Entity is translating everything.
Everyone is speaking their own language. Ayla is talking in a series of grunts. Frog is speaking incomprehensible Shakespearean English (not faux Shakespearean but the real thing). Magus is likely speaking the same, with an occasional Zealean word tossed in when he's talking about something for which the 600 AD people would have no word (complex magical things, certain objects, etc) or when he's feeling particularly emotional. Crono Marle and Lucca are speaking Modern English, and Robo may even be speaking in beeps and whistles, or possibly just Future English. The Entity, however, is producing a TARDIS-like translation field, simultaneously causing everyone to understand everything spoken around them regardless of language, and causing them to not question this fact.
Norstein Bekkler was from Zeal.
If you think about it, how else could Belthasar know of his existence and how he likes fairs, and how else does he have the ability to create extremely accurate clones/dolls of anyone, even if he has never seen them? My theory is that Norstein Bekkler was once a normal person from Zeal, but at some point, Queen Zeal banished him and changed his form. When Lavos woke up in the Ocean Palace, the time distortion affected Bekkler and sent him to 1000 AD or some time before. Either that, or he was sent to the End of Time and showed up shortly after Gaspar did, and figured out how to travel through time. Either way, he found a job at the Millenial Fair, which kept him happy during the events of Chrono Trigger. It also explains why he was willing to make a Chrono clone, as he understood the events of the Ocean Palace, how much of a corrupted monster Queen Zeal was thanks to Lavos' power, and was happy to help anyone who could defeat Lavos.
The Lost Sanctum Bonus Dungeon in the DS remake is an alternate timeline.
Specifically, the timeline visited in Chrono Cross, where Lavos never fell, Humankind was defeated, and the Reptites became the dominant species of the planet.
The DS remake represents a completely different timeline than the one seen in Chrono Cross
Specifically, a timeline where Guardia will not fall. In the Dimensional Vortex, Chrono and Company encounter Dalton for one final boss battle, after which he tells them that he's going to raise a Guardia-conquering army in Porre. Chrono, Marle, and Lucca have defeated Dalton before, and they can do it again when he shows up. More importantly, they know where, if not precisely when, he's going to show up. So, after the Moonlight Festival, Chrono, Marle, and Lucca use their pull with the King, and their knowledge of Dalton's plans, to stop the war before Dalton has a chance to start it. Bam! Dalton's been stopped, Guardia remains, the heroes don't die, and everything's peachy.
"What about the Dream Devourer and the Sequel Hook?", I hear you ask. That's actually pretty simple. The alternate-timeline Magus that initially tries to stop the Dream Devourer is from Chrono Cross's initial timeiline, where the Dimensional Vortex never appeared, Dalton conquers Guardia, and a mindwiped Magus goes searching for Schala. He gets sent back to a different part of his own timeline, not the one where the Dimensional Vortex appeared and Dalton gets stopped. Which is why "the fall of Guardia" plays after we see him, and nobody else. Like he said, "there are as many worlds as there are potentialities."
The party has a different hit point ratio compared to the bad guys.
Magus deals more damage when he is a PC than when he is an NPC but he has more HP as a villain. I believe this is because PCs have hit points that are proportionately worth more (so a PC hit point compared to an NPC hit point is like an American Dollar compared to a Mexican Peso)
Azala predicted the 'Day of Lavos'.
When she said 'we have no future' just before she died, Azala wasn't referring to the end of the dinosaurs, but to the end of everything when the Day of Lavos occurs in 1999 AD.
Yakra and Lavos are related.
They both have needle-based attacks.
Lavos is a Mycon Deep Child.
He seems to be both biological and yet artificial. He crash landed on the planet from space and promptly burrowed into it. He spent time buried under the earth, incubating and preparing, before erupting forth and essentially terraforming the planet for purposes of the production of Lavos spawn, which would then crash into other planets and repeat the process. Juffo-wup indeed.
Lavos is a Reaper, and the universe runs on Mass Effect rules
Lavos indoctrinates several people over the course of the series. Queen Zeal was like Saren, and many other Zealians and Earthbound were subjected to similar treatments. Lavos harvests evolution, as explained at the end. He also employs the tactic to allows races to live and abruptly end them. Compare Lavos physically to a Reaper, and he is actually very similar looking. The talons, the pronged mouth, the spaceship-like interior... Also, it is said that he lives in a pocket dimension. Could it be similar to mass relay technology? Naturally this makes Magic also based off of Biotics, which appears to be much more advanced than other biotics, since it is themed on nature. This is probably Lavos' motive. 65,000,000 years ago is much longer ago than 50,000. Maybe Lavos is a different generation of Reaper, or a rogue Reaper. This WMG remains as it is whether the universe is a parallel universe, spin off, future, past and/or different planet from Mass Effect.
Robo is Rick Astley
Okay, okay, okay! This is not the first time this has been brought up, but we know that his theme does in a ways sound like Never Gonna Give You Up (as heard here Guardia and the Magic Kingdom are matriarchies, following the tradition set by Ayla.
Ayla was the strongest, and ruled because she was the strongest, but it's not too farfetched to imagine that, as time went on, it became a tradition for the female to rule, and to pick her husband, like she did. Queen Zeal mentions her husband, at most, once or twice, and barely anyone else mentions him at all, except in regards to her Start of Darkness. And as for Guardia, the present king rarely does anything but sit around and be an Obstructive Bureaucrat, and the king from 600 AD seems completely focused on the Mystic War. When Lucca is explaining why Marle disappeared, the line of Marle's ancestors is entirely female, and they're all wearing Pimped Out Dresses. The 1000 AD king didn't get all Knight Templar Parent just because Marle's his only child (still a very reasonable reason), she's also the royal heir. And, to get completely speculative, it's why Marle's wasn't stuck in an Arranged Marriage with an airheaded prince/noble (like, say, Dalton).
EVERYONE of the member of the party are descendents of Ayla
even Magus. Robo could be made from Lucca's descendant, so, technically, he can be a member of the family. Ayla's descendants could be the first ones in receive magic and, quickly, become the leaders of the new world. Century's later, in 600 A.D, the blacksmith who made the bell, is hinted to be Lucca's ancestor, why he can't descend from Magus sister? Now is Marle. She could descend from Magus, Frog or The king of 600 A.D mainly because there is an ending showing that Frog have a children with queen Leene, obviously, Frog have the Royal blood in his body. Magus...only because when we travel for the first time, ino one noted that Marle hasn't the necklace. Magus could gave it to her as a proof of love. The last one is Chrono. There are three possibilities:
Dalton is supernaturally charismatic.
Unlike the other Enlightened Ones, Dalton shows no real talent for magic or combat - even after he gets megaboss music privileges in the Dimensional Vortex, he's still a complete joke. However, he manages to get in deep with the queen, have a loyalist usurper faction ready to go when the opportunity prevents itself, control a family/species of powerful monsters, and allegedly stir up hell between Trigger and Cross.
The only way any of the above makes sense is if all his magical ability lies in manipulating others, and for all his showmanship he's actually pretty good at the political game - he only seems like a blowhard because 1) the party is explicitly throwing a king-sized spanner in the works during Antiquity, and B) he activates his magic by overacting - Spekkio says magic takes strength of character, he takes it Up to Eleven.
All his actions and abilities are based on this principle - when he loses a battle, he gets so spiteful it manifests as one last attack. He can convince enough powerful people to band together and, over time, build up an outlying town enough to take over an unprepared kingdom. He can even magically force the party to fall for a blatant Go Look at the Distraction long enough to knock them out with his limited attack magic. It all boils down to a sophisticated Jedi mind trick.
Azala was a Well-Intentioned Extremist, as were the rest of the Reptites
When Azala dies, she asks Ayla to "take care of this world." This may indicate that the Reptites were only trying to kill humans because they believed that the humans' mannerisms indicated that they were unsuitable to be the dominant species on the planet.
Frog is Marle's ancestor even outside the joke ending
Spekkio is somehow related to Lavos.
Lavos is related to Jenova .
The Planet itself is the great entity that created the time holes
There is no entity, the gates are formed of the energy of intelligent lifeform annihilation
Chrono Trigger's timeline is partially the future of the Dragon Ball Z world in some way.
Magus could have beaten Lavos without Crono and crew's interference
Or at least his outer form. The reason why he stood a chance in 600 AD and not 12000 BC is one: Lavos did not have access to the Mammon Machine for a power up, and two: Magus had his spells in preparation which allowed him to shield himself against some of Lavos' attacks. Crono and crew screwed that up.
Every time the party time travels, a new world is created
In Chrono Cross, the second dimension is created when Kid travels back in time to save Serge. If time travel is capable of making new universes once, doesn't that mean that a universe is created whenever the party time travels, and that Lavos is only defeated in the few universes (one in standard playthrough) in which he is defeated, and that he destroys the world in all the others?
A new universe is created whenever the party dies
When the party dies, the player goes back to a point in time and does something different, to create one, ultimate timeline in which Lavos is defeated, and one in chich the characters die.
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