History WMG / ChronoTrigger

19th May '17 9:17:02 PM Kahran042
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** De-jossed by the fact that in [[http://kwhazit.ucoz.net/trans/ct/earthlaw.html the original Japanese version]], her last words are simply "The future..."
19th May '17 9:12:21 PM Kahran042
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** They also show only four, including Leene and Marle, when there would actually be a fourteen-generation difference, and it showed Leene being kidnapped by a Blue Imp. At any rate, the most it shows is that Guardia's succession is not male-only.
19th May '17 8:46:36 AM Kahran042
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* Jossed. It's stated in 600 AD that Leene married into the Guardia family.
15th Apr '17 12:27:53 PM tropette
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The people aboard Magus' ship knew that Zeal's destruction was a direct result of the way they lived, so Magus persuades her sister to erase everyone's memories and let them start new lives, as equals. She succeeds... for everyone but Magus; he is too powerful for it to take. So he disguises himself as a bellringer (getting the idea from Leene Square), the villagers go about their day-to-day lives on the new islands they land on, and Schala has two children, both with extraordinary magical powers. Magus falls forever silent, knowing the person he cares about most no longer remembers who he is, but taking solace in the fact that he saved her. Then... well, you know.

Meanwhile, Lavos still exists beneath the earth, though everyone has a different name for it. Dalton, having stolen and modified the Epoch with no resistance, attempts to use Lavos' remaining influence to take over the world. However, being Dalton, he fails, and is thrown through time and space into the body of a small child sometime in the 1990s. He is powerless, weak, and disliked by everyone he meets... until he finds a device, akin to the Mammon Machine, that allows him to tap into Lavos' influence. Having done so, and having regained his powers, he finds the Epoch again and uses it to do bad shit; he destroys Guardia then, looking for something else to do, kidnaps people from throughout time and space and tracks down the former residents of Zeal. He takes the name of "Porky," after the taunts.

Spekkio, meanwhile, finally gets off his ass and uses his power to take on guises to split himself into seven humanoid forms, each of which seals Lavos away with a Dreamstone needle. One of said guises, however, becomes corrupted by Lavos' power and becomes a traitor.

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The people aboard Magus' ship knew that Zeal's destruction was a direct result of the way they lived, so Magus persuades her sister to erase everyone's memories and let them start new lives, as equals. She succeeds... for everyone but Magus; they are in a rush, and he is too powerful for it to take. So he Magus disguises himself as a bellringer (getting the idea from Leene Square), the villagers villagers, now no longer in Zeal regalia, go about their day-to-day lives on the new islands they land on, and Schala has two children, both with extraordinary magical powers. Magus falls forever silent, knowing the person he cares about most no longer remembers who he is, but taking solace in the fact that he saved her. Then... well, you know.

Meanwhile, Lavos still exists beneath the earth, though everyone has a different name for it.it: a common one is the Dark Dragon. Dalton, having stolen and modified the Epoch with no resistance, attempts to use Lavos' remaining influence to take over the world. However, being Dalton, he fails, and is thrown through time and space into the body of a small child sometime in the 1990s. He Despite his remaining delusions of grandeur he is powerless, weak, and disliked by everyone he meets... until he finds a device, akin to the Mammon Machine, that allows him to tap into Lavos' influence. influence again. Having done so, and thus having regained his powers, he finds the Epoch again and uses it to do bad shit; he destroys Guardia then, looking for something else to do, kidnaps people from throughout time and space and tracks down heads for the refuge of former residents of Zeal. He takes the name of "Porky," after the taunts.

Spekkio, meanwhile, finally gets off his ass and uses his power to take on guises to split himself into seven humanoid forms, each of which seals Lavos away with a Dreamstone needle. For reasons only known to himself, those guises look like Flea. One of said guises, them, however, becomes corrupted by Lavos' power and becomes a traitor.



Lucca, traumatized even further by their quest, devotes the rest of her new life to trying to stop Lavos and Dalton, primarily through the creation of part-human, part-mechanical beings like Robo. However, before she can, Dalton kidnaps her and forces her to work for him. She also has a kid, though she abandons him.
Marle's pendant reacts to the gate and she's flung into the same time as Schala and the rest. Panicking, Magus basically makes a bunch of shit up in a hurry as her backstory and hands her to Spekkio to raise. During this time, she dyes her hair pink.

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Lucca, traumatized Lucca lands in the 1990s. Traumatized even further by their quest, devotes the rest of her new life to trying to stop Lavos and Dalton, primarily through the creation of part-human, part-mechanical beings like Robo. However, before she can, Dalton kidnaps her and forces her to work for him. She also has a kid, though she abandons him.
Marle's pendant reacts to the gate again and she's flung into the same time as Schala and the rest. Panicking, Magus basically makes a bunch of shit up in a hurry as her backstory and hands her to Spekkio to raise.raise, as he's the only one around who remembers how to deal with magic users. During this time, she dyes her hair pink.



Buzz Buzz would probably be one of the Gurus of Time, likely Belthazar as their names sound similar.

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Buzz Buzz would probably be one of the Gurus of Time, likely perhaps Belthazar as their names sound similar.similar. Maybe his final act was to go to just before the Day of Lavos, trying to prevent it. You never do see his body.
15th Apr '17 12:57:04 AM tropette
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The people aboard Magus' ship knew that Zeal's destruction was a direct result of the way they lived, so Magus persuades her sister to erase everyone's memories and let them start new lives, as equals. She succeeds... for everyone but Magus; he is too powerful for it to take. So he disguises himself as a bellringer (getting the idea from Leene Square), the villagers go about their day-to-day lives on the new islands they land on, and he falls forever silent. Schala has two children, both with extraordinary magical powers.

Meanwhile, Lavos still exists beneath the earth, though everyone has a different name for it. Dalton, having stolen and modified the Epoch with no resistance, attempts to use Lavos' remaining influence to take over the world. However, being Dalton, he initially fails, and is thrown through time and space into the body of a small child sometime in the 1990s. He is powerless, weak, and disliked by everyone he meets... until he finds a device, akin to the Mammon Machine, that allows him to tap into Lavos' influence. Having done so, and having regained his powers, he finds the Epoch again and uses it to do bad shit; he destroys Guardia then, looking for something else to do, kidnaps people from throughout time and space and tracks down the former residents of Zeal. He takes the name of "Porky."

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The people aboard Magus' ship knew that Zeal's destruction was a direct result of the way they lived, so Magus persuades her sister to erase everyone's memories and let them start new lives, as equals. She succeeds... for everyone but Magus; he is too powerful for it to take. So he disguises himself as a bellringer (getting the idea from Leene Square), the villagers go about their day-to-day lives on the new islands they land on, and he falls forever silent. Schala has two children, both with extraordinary magical powers.

powers. Magus falls forever silent, knowing the person he cares about most no longer remembers who he is, but taking solace in the fact that he saved her. Then... well, you know.

Meanwhile, Lavos still exists beneath the earth, though everyone has a different name for it. Dalton, having stolen and modified the Epoch with no resistance, attempts to use Lavos' remaining influence to take over the world. However, being Dalton, he initially fails, and is thrown through time and space into the body of a small child sometime in the 1990s. He is powerless, weak, and disliked by everyone he meets... until he finds a device, akin to the Mammon Machine, that allows him to tap into Lavos' influence. Having done so, and having regained his powers, he finds the Epoch again and uses it to do bad shit; he destroys Guardia then, looking for something else to do, kidnaps people from throughout time and space and tracks down the former residents of Zeal. He takes the name of "Porky."
"Porky," after the taunts.
15th Apr '17 12:37:58 AM tropette
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[[WMG: Chrono Trigger is a prequel to Mother 3.]]
The Palace of Zeal has fallen. At the back of their minds, everyone in Zeal had an inkling it would happen, then it actually happened. Janus, as the Prophet, knew this was going to happen and gathered together what few residents of Zeal would listen to him to escape. However, he is unable to save Schala in time. Fast forward to the Ocean Palace. Lavos has just killed Crono. Instead of trying to fight Lavos, Magus reveals himself, takes Schala and flees. The rest of the party is tossed into Time Gates, their memories erased.

The people aboard Magus' ship knew that Zeal's destruction was a direct result of the way they lived, so Magus persuades her sister to erase everyone's memories and let them start new lives, as equals. She succeeds... for everyone but Magus; he is too powerful for it to take. So he disguises himself as a bellringer (getting the idea from Leene Square), the villagers go about their day-to-day lives on the new islands they land on, and he falls forever silent. Schala has two children, both with extraordinary magical powers.

Meanwhile, Lavos still exists beneath the earth, though everyone has a different name for it. Dalton, having stolen and modified the Epoch with no resistance, attempts to use Lavos' remaining influence to take over the world. However, being Dalton, he initially fails, and is thrown through time and space into the body of a small child sometime in the 1990s. He is powerless, weak, and disliked by everyone he meets... until he finds a device, akin to the Mammon Machine, that allows him to tap into Lavos' influence. Having done so, and having regained his powers, he finds the Epoch again and uses it to do bad shit; he destroys Guardia then, looking for something else to do, kidnaps people from throughout time and space and tracks down the former residents of Zeal. He takes the name of "Porky."

Spekkio, meanwhile, finally gets off his ass and uses his power to take on guises to split himself into seven humanoid forms, each of which seals Lavos away with a Dreamstone needle. One of said guises, however, becomes corrupted by Lavos' power and becomes a traitor.

Of the main party:

Crono remains dead.
Lucca, traumatized even further by their quest, devotes the rest of her new life to trying to stop Lavos and Dalton, primarily through the creation of part-human, part-mechanical beings like Robo. However, before she can, Dalton kidnaps her and forces her to work for him. She also has a kid, though she abandons him.
Marle's pendant reacts to the gate and she's flung into the same time as Schala and the rest. Panicking, Magus basically makes a bunch of shit up in a hurry as her backstory and hands her to Spekkio to raise. During this time, she dyes her hair pink.
Frog becomes, of course, a frog, albeit one who makes himself useful.
Robo is also picked up by Dalton and is used as the prototype for the Claymen. While Dalton is in 2300 AD, he also picks up some of the Enertrons, which he slaps a pig nose onto and claims he invented.
Ayla gets flung back into her own time. Her connection to the plot was always the most tenuous anyway.

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Some Nus also make it onto the White Ship, but Magus can't think of anything to do with them, so they just wander off into their own valley and do their own thing. A couple of them are worshipped by far-off cultures.
The fate of everyone in EarthBound, except the ones Dalton abducts, is accounted for by the Day of Lavos.
Buzz Buzz would probably be one of the Gurus of Time, likely Belthazar as their names sound similar.
The Ultimate Chimera is Lucca's attempt to splice a Nu and Lavos' spawn. It works as well as you'd expect.
Zexonyte is Dreamstone. The whole business about the Phase Distorter killing people was Lucca talking out of her ass (you'll notice nothing actually happens to any of the EarthBound heroes).
21st Mar '17 3:29:40 PM GigaGuess
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*** I don't think it has an appreciable effect on Lavos at all, really. The Mammon Machine is kept around because it converts Lavos' power into power for Zeal, but given the scale that Lavos exists on, I would think it would more leech off radiation rather than actually sapping Lavos himself.
21st Mar '17 3:16:09 PM GigaGuess
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[[WMG: Robo survived the trip to the future. Guaranteed]]
He remembered (though only vaguely referred to it) the Day of Lavos occurring, or at the very least the events leading up to it. Thus, his existence predates Lavos' emergence and effects that would have followed it.
29th Dec '16 10:49:58 AM DustSnitch
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* This... May be the greatest WMG in the history of anything. In fact, one might even be able to prove WHAT Lavos was doing sitting on a single planet for those millions of years. It's been well established that the Reapers are absolutely ancient, and[[spoiler: since they seem to need MASSIVE amounts of living resources to be able to reproduce,]] one can come to the logical conclusion that Lavos was Reaper damaged by some form of weapon by a species ''predating the aliens which destroyed that Reaper over Mnemosyne''. Noting a planet with some serious evolutionary potential, he landed, burrowed within the ground, and unleashed the ultimate indoctrinating artifact, the Frozen Flame. As luck would have it, the inhabitants of the planet had even more biotic potential than the asari, essentially giving them near-magical abilities. Simply by guiding the planets evolution, Lavos' ultimate plan would have been to use these humans to repair itself fully, returning as what would likely be an immensely powerful being, even by Reaper standards, and torch the planet after it was finished with it. Thankfully, a [[BadAss Shepard-esque figure]], Crono, would rise up and kill him before it was too late, saving not only their planet, but perhaps the entire universe from 'Lavos the Super-Reaper.'

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* This... May be the greatest WMG in the history of anything. In fact, one might even be able to prove WHAT Lavos was doing sitting on a single planet for those millions of years. It's been well established that the Reapers are absolutely ancient, and[[spoiler: since they seem to need MASSIVE amounts of living resources to be able to reproduce,]] one can come to the logical conclusion that Lavos was Reaper damaged by some form of weapon by a species ''predating the aliens which destroyed that Reaper over Mnemosyne''. Noting a planet with some serious evolutionary potential, he landed, burrowed within the ground, and unleashed the ultimate indoctrinating artifact, the Frozen Flame. As luck would have it, the inhabitants of the planet had even more biotic potential than the asari, essentially giving them near-magical abilities. Simply by guiding the planets evolution, Lavos' ultimate plan would have been to use these humans to repair itself fully, returning as what would likely be an immensely powerful being, even by Reaper standards, and torch the planet after it was finished with it. Thankfully, a [[BadAss Shepard-esque figure]], figure, Crono, would rise up and kill him before it was too late, saving not only their planet, but perhaps the entire universe from 'Lavos the Super-Reaper.'
9th Dec '16 3:12:17 PM GigaGuess
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[[WMG: The Black Omen never "appeared" at all]]
Granted it is odd that only when it appears on the map is when anyone mentions it, but look at HOW they mention it. With complete indifference. It's been there all along, but since you were ground bound anyways and it's just...there, you never think twice about it. It's only when you see precisely why it's relevant that you pay it special notice it at all.
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