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9th Dec '16 3:12:17 PM GigaGuess
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[[WMG: The Black Omen never "appeared" at all]]
Granted it is odd that only when it appears on the map is when anyone mentions it, but look at HOW they mention it. With complete indifference. It's been there all along, but since you were ground bound anyways and it's just...there, you never think twice about it. It's only when you see precisely why it's relevant that you pay it special notice it at all.
12th Sep '16 6:30:09 AM DarkastKiller
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[[WMG: The save points are canon, and created by Schala]]
Schala at the end of the Antiquity arc is jettisoned outside of time, there she uses her magic to create the "Save Points" that Crono and the Gang unknowingly run into, then if anything happens to the Schala uses her limited power to go back to the moment the party touched the points and influences them to do something different, thereby saving them and restoring the timeline.
2nd Sep '16 6:05:25 PM esq263
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As the previous post mentioned, Marle's descent from Leene is traced through the female line. This suggests that, for the monarchy of Guardia, inheritance is through the female line. However, we see two kings: Guardia XXI and Guardia XXXIII, who have regnal numbers, which is indicative of being the ruling (or at least reigning) monarch, and Guardia XXI seems to be in charge of things (in addition to having a regnal number) despite Leene's presence. (Consider that, in RealLife, despite all the Elizabeths who were queens of England, only two are counted in determining regnal numbers because they are the only ones who have actually reigned.) With 33 King Guardias, this suggests that the kings are the ones with the royal power. As an alternative to the above-mentioned theory, I posit as follows. The royal line passes from mother to daughter, but each royal princess marries someone who becomes King and takes the name Guardia. Therefore, Leene was the daughter of Guardia XX and his wife, the previous royal princess of Guardia. Leene and Guardia XXI will eventually have a daughter who will grow up to marry a man who will succeed as Guardia XXII. After several generations, Aliza, the daughter of Guardia XXXII, married a man who became Guardia XXXIII on the death of the previous king, and their daughter, Nadia (Marle) married Crono, who might have succeeded as Guardia XXXIV. This explanation would also explain the king's concerns regarding Marle and Crono discussed in the previous post. As far as Guardia XXXIII not seeming to do anything, it could either be an example of ConservationOfDetail (just because we don't ''see'' him ruling doesn't mean he doesn't) or a nod to the RealLife modern tendency toward constitutional monarchy, in which the king is largely a figurehead who reigns rather than rules.

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As the previous post mentioned, Marle's descent from Leene is traced through the female line. This suggests that, for the monarchy of Guardia, inheritance is through the female line. However, we see two kings: Guardia XXI and Guardia XXXIII, who have regnal numbers, which is indicative of being the ruling (or at least reigning) monarch, and Guardia XXI seems to be in charge of things (in addition to having a regnal number) despite Leene's presence. (Consider that, in RealLife, despite all the Elizabeths who were queens of England, only two are counted in determining regnal numbers because they are the only ones who have actually reigned.) With 33 King Guardias, this suggests that the kings are the ones with the royal power. As an alternative to the above-mentioned theory, I posit as follows. The royal line passes from mother to daughter, but each royal princess marries someone who becomes the reigning King and takes the name Guardia. Therefore, Leene was the daughter of Guardia XX and his wife, the previous royal princess of Guardia. Leene and Guardia XXI will eventually have a daughter who will grow up to marry a man who will succeed as Guardia XXII. After several generations, Aliza, the daughter of Guardia XXXII, married a man who became Guardia XXXIII on the death of the previous king, and their daughter, Nadia (Marle) married Crono, who might have succeeded as Guardia XXXIV. This explanation would also explain the king's concerns regarding Marle and Crono discussed in the previous post. As far as Guardia XXXIII not seeming to do anything, it could either be an example of ConservationOfDetail (just because we don't ''see'' him ruling doesn't mean he doesn't) doesn't; after all, a lot of VideoGame kings aren't shown to be doing anything) or a nod to the RealLife modern tendency toward constitutional monarchy, in which the king is largely a figurehead who reigns rather than rules.
2nd Sep '16 5:42:00 PM esq263
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*In the alternative...

[[WMG: Guardia is a matrilineal patriarchy.]]
As the previous post mentioned, Marle's descent from Leene is traced through the female line. This suggests that, for the monarchy of Guardia, inheritance is through the female line. However, we see two kings: Guardia XXI and Guardia XXXIII, who have regnal numbers, which is indicative of being the ruling (or at least reigning) monarch, and Guardia XXI seems to be in charge of things (in addition to having a regnal number) despite Leene's presence. (Consider that, in RealLife, despite all the Elizabeths who were queens of England, only two are counted in determining regnal numbers because they are the only ones who have actually reigned.) With 33 King Guardias, this suggests that the kings are the ones with the royal power. As an alternative to the above-mentioned theory, I posit as follows. The royal line passes from mother to daughter, but each royal princess marries someone who becomes King and takes the name Guardia. Therefore, Leene was the daughter of Guardia XX and his wife, the previous royal princess of Guardia. Leene and Guardia XXI will eventually have a daughter who will grow up to marry a man who will succeed as Guardia XXII. After several generations, Aliza, the daughter of Guardia XXXII, married a man who became Guardia XXXIII on the death of the previous king, and their daughter, Nadia (Marle) married Crono, who might have succeeded as Guardia XXXIV. This explanation would also explain the king's concerns regarding Marle and Crono discussed in the previous post. As far as Guardia XXXIII not seeming to do anything, it could either be an example of ConservationOfDetail (just because we don't ''see'' him ruling doesn't mean he doesn't) or a nod to the RealLife modern tendency toward constitutional monarchy, in which the king is largely a figurehead who reigns rather than rules.
10th Jul '16 10:01:56 AM nombretomado
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* Also, take a look at the Black Omen, the thing that was [[spoiler: built using Lavos' power]]. Take a good, long look. Are we ''sure'' BioWare wasn't playing this game when they came up with Sovereign's design?

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* Also, take a look at the Black Omen, the thing that was [[spoiler: built using Lavos' power]]. Take a good, long look. Are we ''sure'' BioWare Creator/BioWare wasn't playing this game when they came up with Sovereign's design?
15th Apr '16 11:15:39 PM BlackMageAnolis
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*** Well, then just rescue them both with the single Time Egg, then. Kill two birds with one stone.
17th Jan '16 3:13:05 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG:Lavos is a [[StarControl Mycon Deep Child]].]]

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[[WMG:Lavos is a [[StarControl [[VideoGame/StarControl Mycon Deep Child]].]]
7th Sep '15 9:50:20 AM Benterful
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7th Sep '15 9:41:16 AM Benterful
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There are actually two timelines. In one of them, [[spoiler:The Guru of Time]] never gets sent to the end of time. In the other, he does. The first part of the game follows Crono's role in the first timeline. When we see four time travelers enter a gate for the first time, the first timeline comes to an end. The universe is destroyed, along with [[every person in the world.]] In the second timeline, crono and the gang are saved, as [[spoiler:The Guru of Time]] has created the gate room at the End of Time. The game follows the second timeline from here on out.

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There are actually two timelines. In one of them, [[spoiler:The Guru of Time]] never gets sent to the end of time. In the other, he does. The first part of the game follows Crono's role in the first timeline. When we see four time travelers enter a gate for the first time, the first timeline comes to an end. The universe is destroyed, along with [[every [[FridgeHorror every person in the world.]] In the second timeline, crono and the gang are saved, as [[spoiler:The Guru of Time]] has created the gate room at the End of Time. The game follows the second timeline from here on out.
7th Sep '15 9:40:32 AM Benterful
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** The war between humans and mystics in 600 A.C.
** The day of lavos 1999 A.C.
** The human extinction in 2600 A.C. at the hands of the machines.
** Something that was about to happen in 1000 A.C. Could be the fall of Guardia or a second Human Mystic war.

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** The war between humans and mystics in 600 A.C.
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** The day of lavos 1999 A.C.
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** The human extinction in 2600 2300 A.C.D. at the hands of the machines.
** Something that was about to happen in 1000 A.C.D. Could be the fall of Guardia or a second Human Mystic war.


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[[WMG: The end of time, and all events after you discover it, are in an alternate reality.]]
There are actually two timelines. In one of them, [[spoiler:The Guru of Time]] never gets sent to the end of time. In the other, he does. The first part of the game follows Crono's role in the first timeline. When we see four time travelers enter a gate for the first time, the first timeline comes to an end. The universe is destroyed, along with [[every person in the world.]] In the second timeline, crono and the gang are saved, as [[spoiler:The Guru of Time]] has created the gate room at the End of Time. The game follows the second timeline from here on out.
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