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What Insane B★RS is to B★RS, Black★Devil Girl is to Dead Master.
IB★RS looks like an "upgraded" version of B★RS, with more gear and supplies. Likewise B★DG has a more sinister skull, and note how she shares Dead Master's horns.
Black★Rock Shooter Beast is a B★RS who mastered the power that took over Insane Black★Rock Shooter.
Similar "upgrade", but with more control.
Hence the horns, tails, etc. B★RS's demonic attribute? Her Blue Flame
. Which makes her ancestor (if not parent) Satan
. She's an Anti Anti Christ
- This goes for the OAV/Anime girls too, but their world is separated enough from the Otherworld that this aspect is muted except mentally.
Pretty self explanatory. Her main weapon is a Arm Cannon
as big as her, enough shells are ejected from the cannon to cover a large place in 5 to 10 seconds, that, the three-barreled gatling gun form of the cannon, yet another form where it is TWO
gatling guns with a even more monstruous rate of fire, and In the Black★Rock Shooter manga, as a Eleventh Hour Superpower, more cannons sprout from her cannon until they form a gigantic shell made of cannons, who intercept the shots aiming to destroy Hazama.
Mato won because she did a preemptive strike on Dead Master.
In most series; someone going missing isn't noticed at first; or there's a week montage of them not showing up to school; the main character worrying, and the villain stewing their victim in The Dark Side
. Mato was aware enough that something was wrong that she drew Black Rock Shooter into challenging Dead Master the very same day she made her move; DM was still resting from pulling Yomi into the Otherworld.
- It's as if the Power Rangers did a Finishing Move on Rita Repulsa the instant she stuck her head out the Trash Compactor. "Ahhh, after 10,000 years I'm free, it's time to conquer *BOOM*."
There is more story planned.
Not say they're going to make any more but with a lot of unanswered questions and released artwork of characters who never appeared, it seems like there is more story to be told.
- Exactly. Maybe not a whole series about the same plot, but it's definitely a "Promotion Project", and all this work they're putting into advertising (merchandise, etc.) probably means at the very least a sequel OVA. If it's a series, it certainly wouldn't be the first time an anime series has come out of an OVA.
- They will release a new episode every time a model\figma of a new character is ready, so they could sell a lot of them.
Mato's bandage on her right knee has/will have some significance.
That thing can't be there for nothing.
- Confirmed, it's how she met Yuu.
Yuu is either Black★Matagi or STR.
Black★Matagi has short hair like Yuu, and while STR's hair is white, it's still short and choppy like Yuu's. (And STR has been confirmed to appear, unlike Matagi.)
- The Stinger heavily implies either this or that Yuu will undergo something like Yomi or Mato - STR's eyes are even hazel in the OVA.
- Confirmed. She is Strength/STR.
Yomi is still going to have to deal with Dead Master.
As the personification of her jealousy (or a spirit attracted to it), Mato showing that she's her Most Important Person put Dead Master to sleep for a little while, but Yomi will surely have other friends.
Black Rock Shooter is Mato's Persona, and Dead Master is a Persona/Shadow that Yomi lost to.
- I AM THOU, AND THOU ART I
Black★Gold Saw is involved with Yomi turning into Dead Master.
If Black★Gold Saw found a way to draw out Black★Rock Shooter, she'd be able to kill her. Again.
Strength is part of an alliance trying to beat Dead Master in the other world. This is why Yuu
is upset at the end of the (first) OVA
Dead Master and Yomi are obviously connected. In other world it's possible Dead Master is seen as some sort of tyrant. There's an alliance of Strength (Yuu), Black Gold Saw, and possibly Black Devil Girl fighting against Dead Master. Yuu found out about DM's connection to Yomi. She wanted to steal Mato away from Yomi because she knew she would be hurting Dead Master indirectly. At the very end she is (or maybe her Strength persona is) upset cause Dead Master hasn't been fully defeated, and she feels she has lost her friend and (also) an ally against Dead Master. — Andaria
Everytime BRS fights someone in the other world, it represents Mato trying to save someone from losing to their loneliness
"Otherworld" characters are from another dimension and merge with their "our world" selfs to power up in The One
fashion, but taking the power needed without death of their target.
Dead Master merged with Yomi to gain more power and BRS decided to merge with Mato to stop her and return both "our world" girls" home.
Also if the fact that Yomi merged with Dead Master when she was highly stressed wasn't a coincidence, but because high stress creates some sort of connection that allows merging, then it seems that STR wants more power as well.
But probably the truth is way less Noein
crossed with The One
and more of " the girl got jealous\angry and her other self merged with her and went to fight BRS to resolve this conflict."
If Dead Master represents Envy
, then BRS represents Kindness/Love
Apparently they are each other's opposing virtue/vice. Yomi merged with Dead Master when she became jealous of Mato and Yuu's friendship (having basketball to talk about), and BRS was able to defeat Dead Master through
the Power of Love
The Death Master is Yomi's loneliness/fear/anger and BRS is her desire to be saved. Since Yomi couldn't save herself, she need Mato's help. (Possibly the otherworldy stuff is a schizophrenic idea Yomi has
about much less dramatic events.)
- Rather, it's a metaphor. Much like gargling mouthwash is like a knight fighting the monster "The Gum Disease Known As Gingivitis"; all the chains and guns and explosions are simply Mato finding Yomi at their secret spot and talking past her defenses she mistakenly put up to prevent being hurt.
- I figured maybe Mato and Yomi were roomies in a ward for coma patients. Most of this could be occuring inside a shared dream of sorts, with them never having met one another prior to being hospitalised. Haven't quite fleshed out where Yuu stands in all this.
In merging with BRS, Mato actually went back in time.
Despite the fact that most people are thinking Anachronic Order
, the website says that it's all happening "simultaneously". This means that Mato and BRS went back in time to save Yomi, and the anime is following the correct order of time.
In order to materialize in the Otherworld, the "other selves" must obtain a body.
Yomi made a sort of Deal with the Devil
to merge with Dead Master, and B★RS made thus her deal with Mato: she'll be able to save Yomi, but B★RS must use Mato's body. This is why Yomi and Mato seem more "possessed" than anything. Also, notice how B★RS's lips don't move when she talks, meaning that her existence isn't corporeal, until after the merge.
- Then what about STR? She was seen in Otherworld when Yuu wasn't possessed.
- Perhaps Yuu was already possessed by STR before the start of the OVA.
- Also, while Mato was merging with B★RS and all, nobody knows what Yuu was doing. She could have been making the same deal as Mato. Another option is that she did something like Yomi; remember, after Yomi's possession, she still stayed behind for a bit and told her volleyball coach she had to leave early. Being merged doesn't mean a complete vanishment from the real world.
The entire original PV was a prequel to the OAV
- The original B★RS's host was stabbed by Dead Master's host to buy herself enough time to secure her hold on her host. B★RS survived long enough to kill Dead Master's host and the Giant Robot Devil that appeared later.
- Both had to find new bodies.
- Perhaps the reason that the original B★RS host died was that Black★Gold Saw killed her. That scene wasn't out of sequence.
- This theory can be backed up by the fact that when B★RS fights Black★Gold Saw, she has no scars◊, yet when she merges with Mato she very clearly has them◊.
- Dead Master then found Yomi, and B★RS found Mato.
- B★RS gave Mato the same deal that she gave the original host; kill Yomi to save her from Dead Master.
- Mato veto'd any killing, however. B★RS wasn't too used to this Power of Love thing; (hence her ridiculously bland Take My Hand attempts), but Mato's Will still prevailed; and Dead Master was driven out; defeated but not destroyed.
- So, Otherworld characters have Type XI immortality and after death they need to possess their alternate universe counterparts to regain their bodies. Then, Dead Master's host, who was killed in PV, was Yomi from a different dimension.
- Perhaps this is why Dead Master didn't try to kill BRS in OVA. Because, if killed, BRS will simply find a new host and return for a rematch. And BRS killed Dead Master in PV because her death was needed to make that Giant Robot Devil thing reveal itself. Going further with this idea, DM was attacked because she was corrupted\made evil by that robot thing, and B★RS wanted to save her from possession, but the only way she knew how was through death of DM's host.
- I figured it was influence from their Hosts. Yomi did not betray Mato like Proto-Yomi did, so the transformation wasn't complete and DM didn't have as strong a hold. DM was only able to corrupt Yomi's desire to keep Mato for herself, but not beyond that. Had DM been able to fully corrupt Yomi; the Power of Love would not have been enough to drive DM out, and only death would have saved her and her death would have had enough karmic imbalance to summon the Giant Robot/Devil.
- It also helps that B★RS killed the skulls first in the OAV. They're part of the Giant Robot Devil, and fuses with it when DM is killed in the PV.
STR is the big bad of the OVA series or at least one of Dead Master's servants.
- While not everything is set in stone after one OVA, STR might have possessed Yuu already before the start of the OVA. Yuu got between Mato and Yomi, which allowed Yomi to become possessed by Dead Master while also telling Mato not to worry to much about Yomi, suggesting that Yomi might come to over time (stalling Mato from being possessed by BRS).
- This leads to another point. Could Yomi be special, potentionally someone that Dead Master could possess to make her more powerful (mirroring the same way with Mato and Black Rock Shooter)? After all, at the very end of the OVA, Yuu is visibly angry, which makes it look like her plans were foiled instead of just being jealous.
STR is B★RS's companion.
She found B★RS after Black★Gold Saw almost killed her and stitched her up. (Those scars were treated.) She stayed back during the "Rescue Yomi from BM" mission because her other existence as Yuu would have interfered. Yuu is confused because she's getting the psychic feedback that her other self and Mato's are close, and that Yomi/DM is the "enemy", but doesn't understand where these feelings are coming from.
Her hell is more subtle. She was supportive, she didn't betray anyone, and didn't need saving. And for this, she gets to be second banana. But she is Strength.
She will not fall, so nobody will save her.
B★GS and B★RS used to be friend's/allies.
They used to be partners, but B★GS turned into the rival gone enemy. Her sin could be wrath, and she turned again B★RS, and the same thing could have happened with their real world counterparts. Maybe the other Black★'s could be fighting against beings like DM and STR, and in the end they could form a Five-Man Band
Slowly at first, to avoid detection. However, due to Subspace in the local area being too alien for some reason, reliable results weren't able to be gained so the project was moved to other testing areas. Nevertheless, it eventually affected several students who got sucked into Subspace during strong emotional periods and their psyches twisted inside out.
The whole series of events is just Mato and Yomi playing around with hand puppets
Implied by this
- Also, Yuu's been trying to make a doll since forever and was only able to make the doll stand there while she waited.
BRS is 'anti-fantasy' in the same way Battler is. She 'wins' by proving that Yomi's disappearance was not caused by DM. The 'other world' is the metaword - chessboard, anyone? Kuroi and Yomi are just innocent people caught up in the Witch's game.
Later in the series Yomi will make peace with Dead Master
Most likely to save BRS from some impending big bad.
Mato is B★RS's arm cannon.
Notice B★RS doesn't have it when fighting with B★GS, even though it would have been at an advantage. However, B★RS merging with her real counterpart gave her a boost in power, allowing her to harness the ★rock cannon.
Dead Master can no longer possess Yomi, and so it must possess Black★Devil Girl.
DM's symbol is a black skull, while BDG's symbol is a cracked black skull. The spirit/otherself could have been injured after it was banished from Yomi.
- So, moving further with this idea, then Dead Master was possessed herself by something that takes the form of skulls. And if Black★Devil Girl is possessed by them next, then Dead Master might be different from her OVA self.
By herself, BRS has had a lot of her empathy burned out; but Mato was able to ignite some of that old resonance. Djinns in In Nomine
represent suppression of feelings; with the exception of one single obsession point. Otherworld is naturally set in The Marches. (Dreamworld)
Okay, I think I am the only one to make the connection, but the BRS OVA is Japan's anwser to Bridge To Terabitha.
- Both are misleading, telling us that it's in the fantasy genre when it's really in the slice of life category.
- Both start with the protagonist on their first day back at school.
- Both protagonists meet the new kid.
- Both protagonists like them as friends.
- Both featured someone in the way of the relationship (Jesse and Leslie had the teacher, Mato and Yomi had Yuu) which ends badly because of it ( Leslie drowns in the river while Jesse and the teacher were out at a museum, Dead Master took over Yomi.)
- Major difference is how important the "Fantasy" part kicks in. In Terabithia, the fantasy portions were just make believe. In BRS, the fantasy portions were really a rescue mission.
- Another major difference is the fate of the friend. In Terabithia, Leslie stays dead. In BRS, Mato rescues Yomi.
Black★Rock Shooter is Mato's isolation/self-reliance.
Mato was hit hard by her father's divorce/death, and for a while in elementary school shut her emotions up. OAV Mato had an encounter with Saya that either intentionally or unintentionally killed Black★Rock Shooter via Black★Gold Saw; and this "cracked" her shield. However, she was able to grow her persona back in such as way that she was able to use this aspect of herself without it taking her over and still be emotionally open. The OAV was them "reintegrating" properly.
2012 Noitamina Anime
The new character is named Chariot. There's already a character named Strength. Both Strength and Chariot are the names of Major Arcana cards, and their character designs resemble the symbolism of the cards to some extent. In this context, Dead Master will clearly reference Death, while Black★Rock Shooter will represent The Star. Black★Gold Saw fits too if you remember she's red and has horns
- that is, The Devil.
Speaking of Tarot cards...
Other self speculation for the 2012 anime
It's pretty damned obvious Kagari is Chariot with the new art making her hair identical to Chariot's. Black★Gold Saw's human counterpart may possibly be Arata due to her red eyes. I have no clue on Saya.
Saya-chan-sensei plays a significant role
The first episode has her patting Mato's head. Due to Law of Conservation of Detail
, everything you see in an anime is important, including that scene. My guess is she's giving Mato the power of Other-World Self to sort out her problems, not unlike Izanami masquerading as fuel station attendant in Persona 4, secretly giving Narukami his Persona power
- Jossed. What Saya is actually doing is playing up the psychoses of the girls with Other Selves to strengthen them, in the hope that they can curb Black★Rock Shooter's rampage in the Otherworld.
The relationship between Yomi and Kagari is richly layered with spousal abuse metaphors, from the guilt-tripping to the threats by Kagari to harm herself. She keeps Yomi imprisoned at home and refuses to let her see anyone, cuts her with clothespins and, by the end of the first arc, is basically crushing any semblance of resistance that Yomi might have had. The only thing that hasn't happened yet is Yomi telling Mato that she fell down the stairs and hit her head on the doorknob.
Chariot will get better
There might be precedent in the OVA, what with the possibility BRS died in the opening
- Confirmed. Chariot makes her return in the finale, except in a supporting instead of an antagonistic role.
The relationship between the worlds is different this time
In the OVA, the Other World was just where Yomi was taken away to. The similarities between events in the two worlds were largely superficial. But in the 2012 anime, Mato experienced part of the battle in a dream, and Black★Gold Saw's intervention seems to have affected events in the real world despite no real world equivalent of BGS showing up.
So rather than it being another world that you can go to be becoming one with your counterpart there, it seems to work more like the battle system in The World Ends With You.
- Jossed. It IS different, but not in the way this theory suggests existing as a sort of parallel dimension that exists to shoulder the stress and grief of young girls. Also, Black★Gold Saw has a human counterpart: Saya Irino, the school counselor.
Chariot was semi-possessing Kagari
Since there was a lot of painful screaming and then a sudden change of attitude after B★RS lopped her head off. Likely to be proven wrong and no bets on whether or not she's not still a possessive, raving psycho.
B★RS is The Shrink in a town where There are no Therapists
Since after B★RS Beheaded Chariot, Kagari has calmed down according to Yomi. Now, at the end of Episode 3 of the anime, B★RS has beheaded the other self of Kohata, causing her to have the same reaction as Kagiri (Pain then collapse). Maybe Mato's Friendship comes with the added benefit of killing what ails you.
Saya is putting drugs in the coffee...
Alternatively, we’ve seen B★GS ‘growing’ immature other selves (or something) with that demonic flower sprinkler of hers. While Otherworld may exist normally, perhaps being ‘aware' of it spreads from person to person?
- Saya could have met Kagari pre-series doing some sort of internship/training to be a counselor, then Yomi comes home from Germany.. no idea why Mato was apparently dreaming about it before school started. Maybe she met one of them in passing at an open-house type deal before term began?
Saya is Black★Gold Saw.
This isn't a business of other selves anymore - she's actually B★GS's manifestation in the real world, and is trying to manipulate Mato and co. in order to affect their "other selves" (hence why Mato and Yomi are circled).
- Yuu doesn't "exist" in the real world fully either, hence she has no shadow; and only people with otherselves interact with her. (They're the only ones who can see her.)
- Jossed. Saya Irino is a very real person, unlike "Yuu", who is really Strength.
Killing an Otherself is not "curing" their Physical Self.
There's a piece missing.
Otherselves can "grow back."
We'll see Chariot again, hopefully grown "right" this time.
- Yuu said that killing the other self causes their real-world equivalent to forget the source of their pain; given that nobody only has one emotional struggle in life, this seems valid.
- Close, but not quite. Chariot does return, but isn't grown, and instead seems to have experienced a full-blown resurrection. That said, the finale alludes that, as long as their counterparts in the real world continue living, and as such continue to experience grief and sorrow, the Otherselves come back to help shoulder those emotions.
Mato's father "being on a business trip" is a lie.
Whether dead or divorced, it's something NOT TALKED ABOUT and part of the reason for Mato's stress/denial/pain.
Dragon Slayer's physical self wrote "Li'l Bird Li'L Bird Colorful Colors"
Or else commissioned it.
Yuu was a childhood friend of Saya.
The episode preview for Episode 6 shows Yuu talking to what looks like a Saya in high school. However, Yuu died due to some unspecified incident, and Saya snapped because of that. Yuu has lately been able to show herself as a student to people, but as Saya is starting to go crazy and Mato, Yuu's current only friend, is falling apart, Yuu's existence is fading.
- Semi-Confirmed. The Yuu we see is actually Strength, while the real Yuu has taken her place in the Otherworld.
has seriously messed Saya up, and she deals with it by tormenting others. The other selves BGS creates represent her causing mental trauma in someone's life; because Saya can touch so many lives in the school, BGS has Reality Warper
powers in the Otherworld. The fledgling other selves absorb mental anguish for Saya, which is why she started to cry when Koha's other self was killed. They also buff BGS somehow, which is why Black Rock Shooter kills them 'young' to lower her defenses and save them from a life as slaves
- Jossed. All this time, Saya has been trying to fulfill the promise she made years before to Yuu. By awakening the Otherselves of girls under her responsibility, she keeps Yuu (who has switched with Strength) safe, as it gives B★RS other targets for her rampage.
The other selves are constantly killing each other because people want, deep down, to forget their pain.
How many times have you been told to forget about something and make a fresh start, rather than torment yourself over it? It may also be a Mercy Kill
; other selves probably reincarnate for each new problem, but not letting your old issues die mean they bear the pain of it constantly. However, people making a real effort to better a bad situation (like Mato wanting to patch things up with Yomi) is what enables them to merge with an other self.
Killing an "other self" doesn't make them forget their pain. It puts people in severe denial that it exists.
It's one thing to lose your love for Mato, Yomi, but it's an entirely different thing to deliberately and knowingly delete Mato's mails from your phone...
Strength's real-world counterpart created the Other World.
The girl Saya met in high school is the earliest known instance of an Other Self, or interaction with Other World. Additionally, she has the ability to create Other Selves in other people. As such, she is the oldest and most experienced Other Self there is, and has a vested interest in keeping IB★RS from destroying it.
- Strength's description of the Otherworld seemed to indicate they existed before the schoolgirls did. However, it's possible that Yuu is the one who CONNECTED the two worlds so directly by overwriting part of it with her intepretation.
Yuu is Strength's Other Self.
Not in the same sense that Yomi is connected to Dead Master, or Kagari is connected to Chariot. The girl who created Strength died, and Strength created a replacement (Yuu) in the real world so she could continue her work and continue to associate with Saya. This is why Yuu only seems to interact with real-worlders who have Other Selves—They're the only ones who can even perceive her.
- Jossed. Strength and Yuu just switched places, with the latter taking over the former's body in the Otherworld.
Chariot could be resurrected.
If the end of Episode 7, where Dead Master is about to be Back from the Dead, is any indication, the same thing could happen to Chariot. There's one problem with this: she got decapitated by BRS. The resurrection is still possible though.
- Confirmed. Chariot, along with Dead Master, return in the finale, though in a more supporting role.
The otherworld is divided into tiers.
It would make sense since the only ones we see there are girls of about the same age while emotional problems continue throuhout life for both genders. The one we see Black Rock Shooter in is one tier while there are also older and younger as well as male tiers separate from the others. Then you might wonder what Saya/Black Gold Saw is doing in their tier. It might simply be cause of her strong bond to Yuu.
The events of the OAV/Anime have Awakened the girls involved, they can fuse or switch with their Otherselves at will now.
The genie doesn't get stuffed back into the bottle. There really isn't too much of a reason to, although Yuu may do so with STR from time to time because of social ties she made while they were switched.
The 4 girls now have a psychic link.
Since the final battle between B★RS and IB★RS shattered the barriers everyone's mental worlds.
Saya adopts Yuu in the end.
This also helps explain how Yuu is able to adapt into current day society so easily paperworkwise.
There are different rules the "deeper" you go into Otherworld.
Many of the girl's mental worlds seem to be "below" each other's. Black Gold Saw is below Dead Master; with Yuu/Strength's being below that. Black Rock Shooter/Insane Black Rock Shooter is the deepest of them all. Regeneration is fastest the deeper you go; hence Black Rock Shooter and Strength reforming instantly after crumbling. Strength knew this; actually, this is why she was seen dragging various Otherself bodies into a pit. This, in fact, seems to be the function of the pit she jumped into; as she started recycling immediately without even "dying" first.
The fallout of the B★RS Vs B★GS Struggle for the last ten years has been observed by other students; but only the ones who keep their mouths shut remember because they're terrified.
For ten years, here's how it looked to the outside world. Mato was cheerfully wandering around, talking to herself. Someone gives her grief or pain; usually made worse by Saya. Drama, shouting, crying happened....then suddenly EVERYONE forgets about it and stops talking about it. (IE, Black Rock Shooter killed their otherself.) B★RS even cuts off any parts of herself/Mato that would remember.
Mato continues walking around school talking to herself, and nobody says boo or even gives her dirty looks. Because they don't know if its the Oni or the Men in Black or what; but whoever messes with her gets Laser-Guided Amnesia
. And no passive aggressive Japanese indirect bullying either; that gets zapped too.
Trailer for a B★RS rpg, that was recently released, has words that can be translated as:
- 2032 AD.
- Humanity is in collapse.
- A girl from the past awakens.
- She becomes RPG.
ANN has this version of translation.
- In the year 2032 AD, mankind was decimated. Before she wakes up…. She becomes RPG.
Whether this game is Otherworld's origin story, or Mato's distant future is unknown.
- It is to be noted, however, that this game probably has nothing to do with Ordet; Ordet is not mentioned, and it seems to have nothing to do artistically-wise with the Ordet production. It likely have nothing to do with the OVA, and may not even include the Otherworld at all (although the characters could be retained). Also, an After the End scenario does not quite fit the "parallel universe" scenario presented in the OVA. Otherwise, B★RS and Dead Master would have to be time traveling, spirit traveling, and utilizing magic at the same time - so the After the End Earth would have to be a very different Earth. Ordet's website even says distinctly that B★RS and Dead Master are in a "different world" and that their fight is happening "somewhere simultaneously". Thus, Mato is not likely to be involved.
- Then it very well might be B★RS origin story set in her dimension, before events of OVA.
3d PV showed what will be the final boss battle in the game.
3d PV involves BRS and friends fighting robots lead by a boss robot(the last of 7 Apostles?). And its easy to imagine some of otherselves siding with invaders.