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Headscratchers: Black★Rock Shooter
  • Why the hell did they bother making an OAV and then not include the song that shares its name, except as an instrumental?
    • Because just because huke put it in a song doesn't mean it has to be in the anime.
      • It was included as an instrumental. Explain why they didn't use it as a song instead.
      • Because any song with vocals sticking out would make you concentrate on the background instead of the actual thing going on visually; also, would you really want it to be the credits song?
      • Would I rather have it be the credits song? Yes, yes I would. And songs with lyrics aren't necessarily distracting... I'm sure they were around during some of the finales in Nanoha, and they were never distracting.
    • I believe that this is related to the licensing to use Vocaloid for anything more complex than music. If huke and co use the actual song by Miku, they need to cut a deal with Yamaha and it will not be cheap. The melody of the song, though, belong to the B* RS Project. This lead to another question why they can't simply hire human vocalist (i.e. from supercell).
      • As it turns out, it's been confirmed: Miku couldn't be used due to legal issues.
      • I never said that Miku's singing it was a requirement, just the song. There's lyrics, there's music... and they retain just the melody? Hmm?
      • Most likely because they wanted to use Miku, and not some human.
      • And now it's the ending of the anime.
  • What was the point of making an OAV and then leaving hundreds of unanswered questions? If there were, for example, plans to make it into a 13 episode anime or something, fine. But one OAV with practically everything left to Fan Wank... why? It was nice and all, but is a basic explanation for something an unreasonable demand?
    • Because that's for the sequel, of course.
    • This seems like a oneshot/teaser to see if BRS will generate enough interest to justify investing the money for a full-fledged anime season. Here's hoping the lackluster writing of the OAV doesn't kill said interest.
    • ...lackluster?...anyway, it is called a "Promotion Project", but let's face it, it's hard to keep this up after so much work has been put into this. It took one year to make virtually 2 anime episodes...
    • And things don't get easier with practice? Of course, if they turned it into a full series things would probably be Off Model in places, buuuut...
    • What would the entire season have to be about?! We know the beginning (all that Romantic Two-Girl Friendship stuff), we know the middle (merging and fighting) and we know the end. Sure that other girl's presence messes it up (I'm really annoyed they had to toss her in just so we couldn't make sense of it) but I doubt the explanation would be that rewarding anyway.
    • You're assuming that it's an anime show about the same plot. That's not necessarily true; it could be a sequel OVA, or an anime show about the same concept/characters but with a different plot. Nobody said the plot's going to be repeated.
    • Welp, sequel just got announced. Here we go!
  • Yuu is said to have been a first year who was accelerated to second year on the website. However, she ends up in the same class as Mato in their second year. This doesn't make sense; in Mato's first year, Yuu would have to have at least been in first year to be the basketball team manager (it's implied she's higher with the "first-year ace" line). But in Mato's second year, Yuu is clearly in the second year with her (they're in the same class). Japanese schools are isolated by grade classes, and so unless Yuu had to repeat a year, at what point did Yuu get "accelerated to second year"?
    • This is corrected in the 2012 anime where Yuu starts school with Mato and is only aspiring to become manager of the basketball team.
  • One unusual inconsistency with how the Rock Cannon is wielded. In the OVA continuity, BRS holds it in her left arm, but in other media, such as official shots of the figma, she holds it in her right hand.
    • Actually, it's always been on her left. The figma is incorrect - huke's original drawings, along with the Nendoroid BRS and the concept art, put it on her left. (Note this.)
  • Okay, this is just me complaining, but why use Miku again in the broadcast anime's version of the song? To make matters worse, it's obviously a new recording both instrumentally and vocally.
    • Can't please everyone, apparently; I'm guessing they put her in after complaints that she wasn't in the OVA. As for the new recording, it's likely a by-product of ryo's new Vocaloid tuning style.
      • Oh, I think the new mix is much better, and Miku's vocals sound more realistic. It's just that it shows that they actually put some effort into it as opposed to simply using the original mix. And yet they go with Miku again. While the ED is a human-sung supercell song.
      • Well Miku did quite a bit for the popularity of B*RS
  • According to Strength, the Other World is where girls' minds go to deal with their emotional pain. Among the hordes of dead bodies of other selves, we see not a male in sight. Where does boys' emotional pain go? Furthermore, does this imply that boys and men don't have these sorts of worries?
    • The pain and strife that boy's experience could just be substantially different that they have their own world to fight in. Perhaps Seinen/Sentai is exactly that, a playground for frustrated male teens to escape into.
      • Or mabye it's exactly because boys have so many media-based avenues to escape into that they don't need an other world to escape into.
      • Also, not every girl has another self, since we've only seen a handful so far and most seem to be connected to Yuu. Yuu invites Saya to the Otherworld (who in turn, summons others to the otherworld), Yuu was childhood friends with Mato—which could explain how Black Rock Shooter was born if Mato subconsiously wanted to help Yuu. Also, Yomi's strife didn't really surface until she met Mato, and Mato couldn't connect with Yomi without having to get through Kagari. Yuu's the foundation of the world that sort of evolves on it's own after that.
    • Without opening up a whole other can of worms about the emotional capacity of boys, I always just traced it the fact that the Other Selves were all female back to huke being more comfortable designing female characters than male ones. Almost all of the main character designs originated from him, if I'm not mistaken, and most of them existed long before there was even any indication of the anime getting made. So, I figured that the cast, and thus the denizens if the Otherworld, were predominantly or entirely female because almost all of the characters that provided the basis for them are also female.
  • Can someone explain the timeline of this anime to me because I don't get how Yuu can be a kid when Saya is a kid and also Mato's childhood friend when Saya is an adult. How can Mato and Yuu be the same age in flashbacks and still at the end of the series if Yuu met Saya as a young student?
    • Here's a timeline breakdown, not canonical, but reasonable
      • -Mato and Yuu are born (Age: 0)

      • -Mato and Yuu become childhood friends starting in kindergarten (Age: ~4)

      • -Yuu (Age: 9, still in elementary) meets Saya (Age: 17, classic Japanese sailor highschool uniform)

      • -Yuu (Age: ~11) switches places with Strength (permanently) and around this time shows Saya the Other World

      • -Mato and Yuu/Strength (Ages: 14) start Middle School at the start of the series, (14 is the typical age to start middle school in Japan)

      • -Saya (22, enough time to get a decent college education and start middle-school level counseling) is the coffee-loving child counselor and overwatcher of Yuu/Strength

      • -Saya (22, or at the time of the end of the show) “adopts” the real Yuu (14) (implied I guess, considering Strength told Yuu she'll have Saya to rely on, and that the real Yuu needs to live somewhere)
    • So you don't have to worry about wibbly-wobbly time stuff!
      • More likely that Saya adopted or looked after Strength as a spirit as soon as Yuu became Strength.
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