- In addition to this, no matter what decisions you make, he will blame Bruce and/or Batman for it happening.
- Confirmed! Harvey gets a stage light smashed into his face which burns him.
- The above only happens if you saved Selina instead of Harvey. However, the fact that the choice actually led to Harvey getting half his face scarred makes it inevitable he becomes Two Face at some point in the future episodes.
- However, even if you save him from the disfigurement, he's still evidently snapping from all the stress caused by the events of Episode 2 and the tense situation as of Episode 3. Unfortunately, it seems Dent doesn't really need to have his face ruined to become Two-Face anyway.
- Confirmed.
- Semi-Jossed. If Batman chooses to save Catwoman instead of Harvey, he gets his face burned by Penguin. If Batman saves him, Harvey gets out with a black eye.
- Jossed. He turns Gotham into a police state, killing dozens of innocents in the process, that's MORE than enough.
- Building off of that: Thomas and Martha Wayne were members and their mugging was a cover up for an assassination.
- If it turns out that the Wayne were meant to be liasions to the actual mobsters in Gotham, especially Falcone, the directly above would be doubly confirmed.
- Jossed; While Falcone talks big about knowing Bruce's parents and states that he was on very good terms with Bruce's father, Alfred dismisses this, advising he's the kind of man Bruce's parents despised. Lines in the 'next time on' trailer also seem to support this, and Bruce even notes that there's very little hard evidence linking the Waynes to the Falcone crime family.
- Except not really, second episode confirms their criminal connections outright. Thomas Wayne was part of a Big Bad Triumvirate along with Falcone and Mayor Hill, and he used his influence to send innocent people to Arkham Asylum.
- Jossed; While Falcone talks big about knowing Bruce's parents and states that he was on very good terms with Bruce's father, Alfred dismisses this, advising he's the kind of man Bruce's parents despised. Lines in the 'next time on' trailer also seem to support this, and Bruce even notes that there's very little hard evidence linking the Waynes to the Falcone crime family.
- Thus far not confirmed.
- Jossed; Mayor Hill and Thomas Wayne threw his mother in Arkham (after driving her to insanity with drugs) while his father committed suicide.
- Jossed. Joker's role is relatively minor, though it's implied he's got plans for Season 2.
- Jossed: it's Vicki Vale. The villain's M.O. was too different from Joker anyway.
- As of Episode 4 , it's clear that Joker is a core player and may even be Arkham's descendant. Turns out that Joker has no file, and it's entirely possible that he's there without a record because he's an Arkham and his parents put him there themselves. He might even be Vivi's older brother!
- Jossed: This does not happen.
- Possible. In episode 4, if the player chooses to go to Wayne Enterprises and stop Oz from hacking Batman's technology, a fight ensues that ends with Batman breaking Penguin's right leg. Should you face him in episode 5 instead, his legs get crushed by his father's bust in Cobblepot Park.
- Semi-Jossed. If you choose to save Harvey over Selina, he avoids the disfiguring scars of Two-Face.
- Confirmed. If you go to Harvey as Bruce in Episode 4, you can say "This isn't the New Face Gotham needed."
- Semi-confirmed- while two of the slogans become an Ironic Echo, the final one says that you believe in Harvey.
- Jossed. It's heard unedited at the end of Episode One.
- Seemingly jossed; the nerve agent released at the docks made the cop it affected psychotically aggressive to the extent he clawed someone's face to pieces, which is not the usual manner in which fear toxin works.
- It's never caused anyone to act aggressively out of panic or terror?
- It's jossed. The drug is specifically stated to completely remove a person's inhibitions, which makes them more aggressive and open to persuasion.
- It's never caused anyone to act aggressively out of panic or terror?
- Confirmed. At least, he's one of them...
- Jossed, seemingly. They appear to have been average law-abiding citizens. The Waynes on the other hand...
- In Gotham? It sounds like several Anti-Heroes with no problem killing criminals. But it could be Huntress, sure.
- Helena has a well-known past with Gotham's mob families. Besides, it seems too early in Bruce's career to introduce Red Hood, she seems to fit the dual life part of it.
- Alternatively? Black Mask.
- Jossed. It's Vicki Vale.
- This is further supported in Episode 4, where Tiffany reveals that she's working on a tactical suit that she could wear on the field (note how it has shades of purple, just like the Batgirl suit). This may end up just being a Mythology Gag, though.
- makeso sense: if she was revealed as Catwoman she could hide in the city and people would assume she had left town
- Jossed when it comes to the Joker, since he appears in episode 4.
- Confirmed. After Vicki captures Alfred, he uses a piece of chalk based on the color of Bruce's tech to help highlight clues.
- Not to mention the '66 series and the story arc of The Batman Adventures.
- Also, Hill is now dead. One less reason why Oz can't be mayor.
- Jossed. Harvey becomes mayor. Oz, on the other hand, becomes the new CEO of Wayne Enterprises.
- Possibly jossed. It's more likely that Thomas Wayne, Mayor Hill, and Falcone eliminated Oswald's father in a similar fashion to his mother.
- It's later confirmed that Cobblepot Sr. killed himself due to Wayne's actions.
- Possibly confirmed. Bruce encounters Joker in Arkham, and after the Joker tries to "help" Bruce, reminds him that Bruce will owe him a favor when he gets released.
- The teaser for Episode 2 does have Alfred defensively admit to keeping some very big secrets for Bruce's parents.
- He does however maintain they never did anything to harm the city.
- Which shows Al knows less than he thinks when Children of Gotham footage reveals that he drugged Mrs. Cobblepot into sheer insanity.
- He does however maintain they never did anything to harm the city.
- Jossed, for now. It's Vicki Vale.
- Confirmed, sort of: his organization is.
- Jossed for now: Joker is already his homicidally looney, green haired albino-skinned self when he first meets Bruce.
- As of Season 2 Episode 4: Confirmed. However, it's wholly dependent on the player's actions with him up until that point.
- Confirmed: The serum awakens something dark in Harvey that he suppressed for years.
- Semi-confirmed. He ends up being The Dragon to Vicki Vale.
- Anarky, a revolution like this was similar to his goals in Batman: Arkham Origins.
- He is not.
- The Joker
- He is not. Maybe. Depends on his actual origin.
- Harvey Dent's other personality born out of his desire to fight the corruption in Gotham. The message of the leader during the debate could be pre-recorded and he gave orders to Penguin to use the toxin on him so his other half's pure intentions can be known to the public and allow the people to trust him more and he wanted an incident to allow him more control over his other half.
- Harvey Dent may be jossed; the promo for Episode 3 shows that the leader of the Children of Arkham is much scrawnier than Harvey.
- He is not. But he has the talent for it.
- The Scarecrow, though that's just based on him pulling a The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You at the end of Episode Two.
- He is not.
- A composite character of the aforementioned... like "Anarky now, becomes Scarecrow at end/stinger for Season 2 sequelbait."
- Ester Cobblepot, just to keep the number of characters tighter.
- She's not.
- Vicki Vale. Her whole interest to protect Bruce's name could be a ploy to lore Bruce into security.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed. The serum has very clear somatic symptoms that Montoya did not show when she shot Batman.
- Jossed big time. Unless Mayor Hill was secretly aiming a gun at him, Thomas Wayne had no redeeming intentions while driving Esther Copplebot insane and sending her to Arkham.
- Alternately from the same one who posted this theory that Thomas thought he had come too far to be able to get out of it or believed there was no way he could redeem himself so might as well continue. Like I said I find it hard to believe they would put in the possibility the Waynes were innocent only to reveal that they were really were as bad as people said it was. It could be for reasons that they didn't share with Alfred..
- He may have had a hand in the institutionising of those who went against him, Falcone and Hill.
- He releases a whole list of innocent victims. Given that Hill had all official records destroyed, that suggests whoever it is wrote the names down, something only a person who knew about it and had expert in adminstarting it knew about.
- Also the word nothing to fear which refers to what Scarecrow said in Batman Begins.
- Also from what we see of the Episode 3 teaser, whoever it is is wearing a suit and Batman appears to be at Arkham Asylum.
- Partially Jossed. Vicki Vale is the Big Bad.
- Unlikely, given that Gordon summons Batman with it at the beginning of Episode 3.
- Considering the fact that he was under the effects of a Truth Serum at the time, unless he knows how to deal with that then it's doubtful he's lying.
- Jossed, apparently. Oz tells Bruce the reason Hill ordered the hit was because Martha was trying to get Thomas to quit, seemingly confirming Hill was in fact responsible.
The plot of the villains thus far, discrediting the Wayne family and subverting the political establishment, doesn't jive with Crane's usual motives, or with Cobblepot's either. Cobblepot is covered in this series with the motive of revenge, but if Scarecrow were the ringleader, why bother with the Waynes? Thus far, they've only been tangentially related to the Mayoral race and Falcone's criminal operations.
The answer is that the game's true antagonist, whomever they are, must have a personal motivation to bring up the Waynes long after Thomas and Martha Wayne's deaths. A villain with not only a vendetta against the Waynes, but skill at subterfuge, politics and manipulation; both figurative and possibly literal given the low video quality of Thomas Wayne's criminal actions.
There is such a villain in Batman's rogues gallery, one who hasn't made an appearance in this series, nor as the main villain in any other adaptation, but would be ripe for it: Hush. This individual would fit all of the above characteristics AND be in a unique position to intercept any attempts to unravel the plot. There's more; Hush's MO is always to hide in plain sight and assume another person's physical appearance. Now remember, only three people who knew him personally have corroborated the idea that Thomas Wayne was a criminal. They are: Mayor Hill, Carmine Falcone and Alfred. By the end of Episode 2, two of them are known liars and those same two are now dead. Whose the only one left to corroborate the story?
- Most likely Jossed. Vicki Vale is the Leader of the Children of Arkham. As for Alfred, he knew Thomas had shady dealings with Falcone and Hill, but had apparently no idea Thomas was drugging people with a Psycho Serum. Aside from that, Oswald's backstory seems to already incorporate most of Hush's so it would make little sense for Telltale to use him.
- Nope. Lady Arkham is Vicki Vale.
- This could still be plausible. During the events of the episode "Flood" Vyvyan creates a potion which, as he describes, is a "cure for not being a homicidal axe-wielding maniac". The potion is later drank by Mr. Balowski, turning him into a madman bent on killing the four housemates the show revolves around. Lady Arkham's serum is not unlike this, stripping people of their morality and making them dangerous and impulsive. It's possible that Vyvyan decided to use his special concoction as a tool with which to get his revenge. Vyvyan also has some feminine characteristics, such as his name and how he becomes 'pregnant'. Between these and his potions, it's not out of the question that he could disguise himself as a woman such as Vale.
- Far less likely since episode 4 explains that Vale is in fact the daughter of the Arkham family, and was put under foster care when Thomas Wayne eliminated her parents.
- This could still be plausible. During the events of the episode "Flood" Vyvyan creates a potion which, as he describes, is a "cure for not being a homicidal axe-wielding maniac". The potion is later drank by Mr. Balowski, turning him into a madman bent on killing the four housemates the show revolves around. Lady Arkham's serum is not unlike this, stripping people of their morality and making them dangerous and impulsive. It's possible that Vyvyan decided to use his special concoction as a tool with which to get his revenge. Vyvyan also has some feminine characteristics, such as his name and how he becomes 'pregnant'. Between these and his potions, it's not out of the question that he could disguise himself as a woman such as Vale.
- Given the weird chemistry going on, perhaps it's actually Clayface? Come to think of it, are we sure that was Thomas Wayne in that tape at the debate?
- Episode 4 shows that she's a daughter of the Arkham family, so it's possible she had some connections.
- Of course, we get that information from the Joker, so who knows whether that's actually the case... all we really know for sure about her is that she was adopted.
- Now, now, this is Arkham we're talking about. None of the therapists that work there do well at their jobs.
- Well, it's also implied he's not seeing her at all, likely because he doesn't want to be portrayed as psychotic should the media get a hold of her.
- Seemingly jossed. Episode 4 shows that Penguin is a true believer in the cause, and would rather die than give up any information on the Children of Arkham.
- A victim of the corruption behind Falcone, Hill and Thomas Wayne.
- started out as wanting to expose the corruption through her job as a reporter but it failed so she decided more extreme measures were needed.
- Though possibly with backers who have more personal reasons to hate the Wayne family
- A member of a forgotten founding family, as a Composite Character with The Architect.
- She's a member of the Arkham family, at least according to Joker.
- Likely Jossed. According to Joker, Vicki is in fact a descendant of the Arkham family.
- And the other members are Esther Cobblepot and Regina Zellerbach, thus forming a neat The Hecate Sisters trio. Perhaps the others will even operate under the codenames Mother Arkham and... I don't know, the Arkham Crone.
- "I am Veangence"
- "I am the Night"
- "I'm Batman"
- Bruce realizes this when he notices the "Arkham Asylum" seen in the tape is actually a stage, when he sees a spot on the wall revealing it to be the dilapidated movie theater from the second episode.
- Two-Face is either dealt with at the end of Episode 4 or the beginning of Episode 5 depending on your decision.
- Jossed: when the Children of Arkham and Lady Arkham start a prison riot... all he does is watch a door swing back and forth.
- Confirmed in Episode 5. They have a Torture Cellar hidden in their basement for Vicki.
- If you took down Penguin at Wayne Tower, Cobblepot's involvement with the Children of Arkham will be revealed, as well as his recovered criminal record, and he would be sent to jail for a long, long time as Bruce Wayne returns to becoming head of Wayne Enterprises! Or, he would, if Two-Face had not declared Bruce a fugitive after torching Wayne Manor, and from there Dent's sanity will continued to deteriorate as he puts the City in an even stronger choke hold then before, basically robbing all the Gotham elite by gunpoint to fund his growing police state and ordering the execution of not only anyone suspected colluding with the Children of Arkham, but also any police officers not on board with the regime change. Sometimes Dent will be involved with the killings personally, and no one would dare object, not even the current Commissioner, because they are all that scared of Dent at this point.
- If you took down Two-Face at Wayne Manor, Dent will be deposed as Mayor of Gotham, his willingness to kill innocents and police to take down the Children of Arkham will be exposed to the public, and ultimately will be sent to Arkham, freeing Gotham from its oppressive police state! However, Penguin's Black Box will have successful broken through the Batcomputer's firewalls, allowing him to completely control all of Batman's tech, allowing the Children of Arkham to cause untold destruction upon the City and be able to blame Batman for it. Worse yet, they will be able to find out that Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, and thus launch a two-pronged attack, hitting both Bruce himself and the rest of Gotham with whatever plan they have to destroy Gotham. Lady Arkham may even actually try to release Batman's secret identity before commencing with the attack to further demoralize Batman.....
- And of course, as with all villains with noble end goals, Vicki will get brutally shot down by a villain worse than her. That villain will be the one Batman did not take down at the end of Episode 4. If Dent was defeated, Penguin will kill her and assume leadership of the Children of Arkham, being extremely disappointed by her simply walking away after the main goal of revolution comes to pass and wanting to push further, possibly into world domination via the group and him being CEO of Wayne Enterprises as a cover. If Penguin was defeated, it will be instead him who kills Vicki, and then proceeds to thank Batman for distracting her long enough before going into some hypocritical schpiel about helping the victims of the Children of Arkham's violence after turning Gotham into a full-on police state dystopia, too far gone to realize what the Hell he's talking about.
- Nope. The Joker has red lips during The Stinger. Presumably, it's hard to get lipstick in Arkham.
- Jossed, Harley gives him the red lips (via a passionate kiss) in one of the endings of "What Ails You".
- He's asked several questions, but his deepest question is how he views his identity, and what the mask means to him.
- Duke Thomas anyone?
- Duke's main universe backstory fits pretty neatly both logically and thematically with everything in the game: he ran away from multiple bad foster family placements, and his mom was a Gotham social worker before being driven insane in Endgame. Perhaps in this universe, she worked Vicki's case and Vicki took her revenge for her failures as Lady Arkham.
- So what if you chose to send Harvey to Blackgate at the end of Season 1 instead of Arkham?
- Confirmed.
- Sort of - Tiffany Fox, Lucius' daughter, can become Batman's protege with the right options.
- And it'll be touched upon in Season 2.
I don't have any idea for the plot, BUT the tutorial can be easily introduced in Episode 1 as such: in a way as Bruce (over comlink) and Terry going over the various suits functions while stealthing his way to the bad guys location (maybe he’s hunting a crime gang that’s part of a bigger plot or just a regular cold opening).
Either that way or through memories of training, like, say: On the rooftop, there could be a ventilation shaft, but it’s locked. Terry could take out the tools and try to open it and go we – the player – go into a memory of Bruce teaching Terry how to use these particular bat-tools to unlock any lock. A success in the memory results in present-Terry doing a little ‘yay!’ or ‘yiss!’, while failure there has him say something like ‘I am so going to suffer next practice time’, before trying again.Or both. Both work.
- Alternatively, she'll skip straight to being Oracle. Arguably Oracle has become a more familiar part of the Batfamily than Batgirl, and Tiffany's skills seem to lie more in technical support than combat.
- Expanding on this, Riddler and the other members of the Pact were sent to test Batman by Ra's Al-Ghul. As usual, to see if the Dark Knight has the strength, brains, skills, and drive to eradicate evil to succeed him as head of the League.
- Bane
- Confirmed.
- Hugo Strange
- Ra's al Ghul
- Mr. Freeze
- Confirmed.
- Deadshot. It was quite the shot that killed the Riddler, afterall.
- Jossed: Tiffany killed the Riddler.
- Possibly Cobblepot and/or Two-Face will be future members.
- Well... it's confirmed that Cobblepot gave Harley information she needed while she was working in Blackgate, so... sort of?
- Lady Arkham, if we can count potential former members. She turned to evil because she was declared insane under false pretenses, and the other members of the Pact appear to have been subjects of some kind of experimentation while incarcerated. Maybe the Pact was formed specifically to get even with the agencies that caused this.
- This seems plausible. In episode one, you have the option of having Bruce say that they'll need to recruit someone (albiet for a specific role) and Alfred will agree, saying they're up against a new class of criminal. There's even Lucius' suggestion of bringing his daughter into the fold early in the episode, as well as Gordon later saying that Batman couldn't do the things he did without a whole network of civilians behind him-something he currently lacks, hinting that perhaps the idea of expanding the team will be an important theme going forward. It looks like Batman will be dealing with a supervilain team in the form of this 'Pact' and it's doubtful that even he will be able to handle it on his own. My theory is that she'll become the question regardless, but depending on your choices, she could either be a full on ally to Batman, or an independent hero working on her own.
- It does seem unbelievable that John would have to have the concept of an EMP explained to him and not long after be perfectly capable of getting past Lucius' protections on the EMP generator to set it off. Easy explanation is that he's not letting on all that he knows.
- And seemingly confirmed when, after a season of acting like a hapless giggling buffoon, he casually reveals that he's deduced Bruce's identity
- Partially jossed, partially confirmed: You can prevent John from becoming a villain if you play your cards right, but then he becomes a vigilante instead, which is still not a completely ideal outcome. Additionally, if John does become a villain, it's the Agency's actions (and to an extent Bruce's actions) that drive him into it rather than Harley's influence.
- Most likely Jossed, with the revelation that they only needed the body for the Lotus toxin in his blood, or more accurately the antibodies to Lotus toxin in his blood. Since we last saw his body being rapidly decomposed due to the Agency meddling with his cryo-coffin-thing, it's doubtful he can ever be revived.
- Jossed; Bruce is able to escape the freezing device at the beginning of Season 2 Episode 4, but only because he's able to use his phone to activate the nearby EMP device, which disables the autolocks on the freeze device and allows Bruce to escape.
- Confirmed that John knows Bruce's identity as of the fourth episode of the second season.
- Achilles Milo. He's not seen much nowadays, but his last prominent appearance in media was him working with Waller before going rogue, so that fits pretty well.
- Hugo Strange, possibly, because he's a good big-time Bat foe
- It wouldn't be the first time Strange worked in the same agency as Waller. Or the second, for that matter.
- Deadshot. We're apparently meant to believe a Sanctus agent is the one who whacked Riddler, and we can all agree it was a Deadshot-Worthy shot. Also, they're clearly also building up to Suicide Squad, so that fits right in.
- If you went the "John becomes Villain" route, you'll start the episode helping Waller's agents apprehend a now-totally-deranged Harley, possibly from her and John's amusement park retreat.
- If John became a Vigilante instead, you start by having to evade Waller's Agents (who are pissed that you let him go), with John eventually showing up to help you in his own horrifying fashion. Possibly, the agents will actually track you down to the Batcave, forcing you to make an escape.
- As such, it's likely that even though it's not possible to save the Joker from himself, you can create a Joker with a relatively low bodycount, TRIES therapy when locked in Arkham, genuinely respects your code and will try to avoid breaking it (mental conditions permitting). He might even enforce your code on other criminals (even though he himself doesn't follow it), meaning he still is in a sense a vigilante and Batman is succeeding in creating a safer Gotham. Which is a nice thought, considering it's heavily implied in-game that you are a new source of pain in Gotham.
- The first episode will feature Tiffany in the middle of training, when she trips and the player is given the option of catching her or letting her fall. The first has Bruce motivate Tiffany by telling her they are teammates now. In the other, Bruce plays the Stern Teacher card and reminds her this will be harder out in the field.
- As a Mythology Gag, Tiffany will ask Batman's opinion on her codename, and choices will include Oracle, Batgirl and Spoiler.