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** Shana as well. Some see her as an endearing GirlNextDoor, others just see her as a DamselScrappy.
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* BaseBreaker: Miranda. To half the fandom she's TheScrappy, to the other half she's an emotionally compelling BrokenBird.
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* {{Narm}}: The voice acting in general, especially in the CG cutscenes as it tends to get progressively ''worse'' as the game goes on.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: The Dart/Shana romance can some across as this, especially in the first half of the game, due to lack of character development between them and the issue of their supposed romance being ''really'' heavy-headed at times.
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* ThatOneBoss: Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because [[TurnsRed the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionally turtle]].
** It gets worse: Lenus ''immediately'' takes the gloves off if you go Dragoon.
** It gets worse: Lenus ''immediately'' takes the gloves off if you go Dragoon.
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** Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because [[TurnsRed the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionallyturtle]].
**turtle]]. It gets worse: Lenus ''immediately'' takes the gloves off if you go Dragoon.Dragoon.
** Jiango in the second Hellena visit. He's lightning fast, often getting two turns, and will most frequently spam a powerful whole party attack, provided he doesn't inflict Confuse on one or more of your party members. Unlike with Lenus, your party is low level and if you're using [[MagikarpPower Shana]] expect to get pretty thoroughly annihilated.
** Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because [[TurnsRed the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionally
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** Jiango in the second Hellena visit. He's lightning fast, often getting two turns, and will most frequently spam a powerful whole party attack, provided he doesn't inflict Confuse on one or more of your party members. Unlike with Lenus, your party is low level and if you're using [[MagikarpPower Shana]] expect to get pretty thoroughly annihilated.
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** Kongol. Slow as all get out, has the magic defense of a wet paper bag, and only has three additions, with the first two giving ridiculously small amounts of SP, making it an absolute ''chore'' to get his Dragoon levels up. If you didn't buy his Dragoon Spirit earlier on, it's doubtful you'd bother leveling it up in the final dungeon.
** If you do get his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, he's absolutely unstoppable in a physical fight.
** However, if you manage to loot some Bandit's Rings or shoes during the game, he easily moves into LightningBruiser territory right out of the gate. Add on the Legend Casque if you had the money for it, and he becomes NighInvulnerable.
** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have the best dragon attack in the game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form; as their attacks lack additions, their SP is delivered in one bulk package, and it's a higher amount than most additions in the game making it very easy to accumulate levels. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
** If you do get his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, he's absolutely unstoppable in a physical fight.
** However, if you manage to loot some Bandit's Rings or shoes during the game, he easily moves into LightningBruiser territory right out of the gate. Add on the Legend Casque if you had the money for it, and he becomes NighInvulnerable.
** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have the best dragon attack in the game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form; as their attacks lack additions, their SP is delivered in one bulk package, and it's a higher amount than most additions in the game making it very easy to accumulate levels. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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** Kongol. Slow as all get out, has the magic defense of a wet paper bag, and only has three additions, with the first two giving ridiculously small amounts of SP, making it an absolute ''chore'' to get his Dragoon levels up. If you didn't buy Additionally, his Dragoon Spirit earlier on, it's doubtful you'd bother leveling it up final addition has a pitiful 300% modifier, the weakest of any final addition in the final dungeon.
** If you do getgame and holding back his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, he's absolutely unstoppable in a ungodly physical fight.
** However, if you manage to loot some Bandit's Rings or shoes duringmight. Compare Meru's 600%, which gives her, with the second lowest attack stat in the game, he easily moves into LightningBruiser territory right out of the gate. Add on the Legend Casque if you had the money for it, and ability to outhit Kongol, in addition to her being more than twice as fast as he becomes NighInvulnerable.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have the best dragon attack in the game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form; as their attacks lack additions, their SP is delivered in one bulk package, and it's a higher amount than most additions in the game making it very easy to accumulate levels. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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** However, if you manage to loot some Bandit's Rings or shoes during
** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have the best dragon attack in the game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form; as their attacks lack additions, their SP is delivered in one bulk package, and it's a higher amount than most additions in the game making it very easy to accumulate levels. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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* {{Squick}}: The ShipTease moments between Dart and Rose, considering that Dart's already committed to Shana, Rose is [[spoiler: [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Eleven Thousand Years Old]]]] and she used to the fiancee of [[spoiler: Dart's dad]].
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* {{Squick}}: The ShipTease moments between Dart and Rose, considering that Dart's already committed to Shana, Rose is [[spoiler: [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Eleven Thousand Years Old]]]] and she used to the fiancee fiancée of [[spoiler: Dart's dad]].dad.]]
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* TheWoobie: Shana. Her hometown is razed to the ground just to capture her, she gets broken out of prison but she has these strange powers she has no understanding of, the guy she likes keeps constantly rejecting and ignoring her feelings, she gets poisoned and is given a Dragoon Spirit so she can survive which she then loses shortly after the guy she likes returns her feelings and she can't travel with him anymore, she ends up kidnapped and finds out that her powers are designed to bring the end of the world as we know it and may have to be killed to stop it from happening. Thankfully, she doesn't have to be and gets a happy ending.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Miranda. She was abandoned as a child by her mother and had only a drunk for a father until she was adopted and raised by Queen Theresa, but any sympathy you feel for her is quickly lost because up until her backstory is revealed, she is mostly a {{jerkass}} to everyone except the Queen and doesn't really stop being one throughout the rest of the game.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Miranda. She was abandoned as a child by her mother and had only a drunk for a father until she was adopted and raised by Queen Theresa, but any sympathy you feel for her is quickly lost because up until her backstory is revealed, she is mostly a {{jerkass}} to everyone except the Queen and doesn't really stop being one throughout the rest of the game.
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* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easily reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning ''every'' boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
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** Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easily reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning ''every'' boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
** Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easily reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning ''every'' boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
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* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning ''every'' boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
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* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly easily reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning ''every'' boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
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** Meru is an absolute beast. Fairly universally considered to be the strongest playable character for her mix of high speed (meaning she gets turns out the wazoo), insane magic attack and healing only outdone by Shana/Miranda's, on top of the fact that her final addition, due to a high combat multiplier, allows her to out-damage Kongol!
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** If you do get his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, [[MagikarpPower he's absolutely unstoppable in a physical fight]].
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** If you do get his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, [[MagikarpPower he's absolutely unstoppable in a physical fight]].fight.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have the best dragon attack in the game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have the best dragon attack in the game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form.form; as their attacks lack additions, their SP is delivered in one bulk package, and it's a higher amount than most additions in the game making it very easy to accumulate levels. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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* CompleteMonster: Melbu Frahnma was the emperor of the winged humanoid race called the Winglies. Promoting a racist philosophy, Melbu Frahnma spread the belief that every single thing that wasn't a Wingly deserved annihilation, but it was the 'grace' of his empire to spare them as slaves. After being overthrown, Melbu Frahnma's spirit went dormant until he could take over the hero, Zieg. Using Zieg's body, Melbu Frahnma manipulated several massive wars and multiple murders to engineer his ascent to power and to fuse with a 'seed' of a God and become the god of destruction. He plans to become the new god emperor of the world and destroy or make slaves of every race. Not even the Winglies are exempt, as Melbu Frahnma displays full willingness to wipe them out should they resist him.
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* CompleteMonster: Melbu Frahnma was the emperor of the winged humanoid race called the Winglies. Promoting a racist philosophy, Melbu Frahnma spread the belief that every single thing that wasn't a Wingly deserved annihilation, but it was the 'grace' of his empire to spare them as slaves. After being overthrown, Melbu Frahnma's spirit went dormant until he could take over the hero, Zieg. Using Zieg's body, Melbu Frahnma manipulated several massive wars and multiple murders to engineer his ascent to power and to fuse with a 'seed' of a God and become the god of destruction. He plans to become the new god emperor of the world and destroy or make slaves of every race. Not even the Winglies are exempt, as Melbu Frahnma Frahma displays full willingness to wipe them out should they resist him.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins in Disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), Lavitz after all), but more that Miranda joins in Disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.mid-development. Not only that, her personality is, save for a few scenes, rather abrasive, although to be fair she ''does'' get called out on this.
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* NeedsMoreLove: [[http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25711337&user=NuKkU In a GameStop user's Top Ten Most Underrated Video Games of All Time blog]], the game is ranked #1. Despite being a two-million unit seller, the game has only been uploaded to the [[PlayStationNetwork PlayStation Store]] in North America in 2012.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical the best dragon attack in the game]] and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical the best dragon attack in the game]] game and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru by nearly 50%.
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** Meru as a whole, she started off weak, but during those time she is already a powerful nuke against bosses, with the highest speed stats amongst the cast to make up her fragility, and a ballanced set of Dragoon magic that has single and group nuke, and a healing magic. After MagikarpPower kicks in, she can outshine other characters at everything. The only character who can outshine her at physical damage are Haschel with proper set-up in Red Health, or Rose at the very end of the game thanks to an InfinityPlusOneSword.
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** Meru as a whole, she started off weak, but during those time she is already a powerful nuke against bosses, with the highest speed stats amongst the cast to make up her fragility, and a ballanced set of Dragoon magic that has single and group nuke, and a healing magic. After MagikarpPower kicks in, she can outdone other characters at everything. The only character who can outdone her at physical damage are Haschel with proper set-up in Red Health, or Rose at the very end of the game thanks to an InfinityPlusOneSword.
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** Meru as a whole, she started off weak, but during those time she is already a powerful nuke against bosses, with the highest speed stats amongst the cast to make up her fragility, and a ballanced set of Dragoon magic that has single and group nuke, and a healing magic. After MagikarpPower kicks in, she can outdone outshine other characters at everything. The only character who can outdone outshine her at physical damage are Haschel with proper set-up in Red Health, or Rose at the very end of the game thanks to an InfinityPlusOneSword.
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* NeedsMoreLove: [[http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25711337&user=NuKkU In a GameStop user's Top Ten Most Underrated Video Games of All Time blog]], the game is ranked #1. Despite being a two-million unit seller, the game has only recently been uploaded to the PlayStation Store, and even then, it was only in Japan until May 1 of 2012.
* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins in disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.
* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins in disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.
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* NeedsMoreLove: [[http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25711337&user=NuKkU In a GameStop user's Top Ten Most Underrated Video Games of All Time blog]], the game is ranked #1. Despite being a two-million unit seller, the game has only recently been uploaded to the [[PlayStationNetwork PlayStation Store, and even then, it was only Store]] in Japan until May 1 of North America in 2012.
* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins indisc Disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.
* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins in
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* FreudWasRight: Rose's "Astral Drain" and "Demon's Gate" spells. Yes, this ''can'' be non-phallic. On top of that, all of Rose's Additions read off like an S&M fan's wet dream. "Whip Smack", "More and More", "Hard Blade", and even "Demon's Dance" to a degree. Rose's voice actor not only says the names of her additions, but throws a single word into the longer ones as well. That word is [[MoodDissonance die]].
* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning EVERY boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning EVERY boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
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* FreudWasRight: Rose's "Astral Drain" Astral Drain and "Demon's Gate" Demon's Gate spells. Yes, this ''can'' be non-phallic. On top of that, all of Rose's Additions read off like an S&M fan's wet dream. "Whip Smack", "More Whip Smack, More and More", "Hard Blade", More, Hard Blade, and even "Demon's Dance" Demon's Dance to a degree. Rose's voice actor actress not only says the names of her additions, but throws a single word into the longer ones as well. That word is [[MoodDissonance die]].
* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turningEVERY ''every'' boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Bears some very slight similarities to the megahit ''FinalFantasyVII'', released two years prior. It's generally agreed that these are superficial in nature, since ''Legend of Dragoon'''s storyline, gameplay mechanics, and characters are radically different.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Bears some very slight similarities to the megahit ''FinalFantasyVII'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', released two years prior. It's generally agreed that these are superficial in nature, since ''Legend ''The Legend of Dragoon'''s storyline, gameplay mechanics, and characters are radically different.
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Rose will outdamage Meru with the Dragon Buster sword, and Shana/Miranda have the best magic stat in the game. They will do more damage than Meru
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** Meru as a whole, she started off weak, but during those time she is already a powerful nuke against bosses, with the highest speed stats amongst the cast to make up her fragility, and a ballanced set of Dragoon magic that has single and group nuke, and a healing magic. After MagikarpPower kicks in, she can outdone other characters at everything. The only character who can outdone her at physical damage are Haschel with proper set-up in Red Health.Health, or Rose at the very end of the game thanks to an InfinityPlusOneSword.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical the best dragon attack in the game]] and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they are just as good as, if not better than, Meru in that regard.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical the best dragon attack in the game]] and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage because they lack additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they are just as good as, if not better than, have the best magic attack stats, beating 2nd place Meru in that regard.by nearly 50%.
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* CompleteMonster: Melbu Frahnma. Promoting a racist philosophy, Melbu Frahnma spread the belief that every single thing that wasn't a Wingly deserved annihilation, but it was the 'grace' of his empire to spare them as slaves. After being overthrown, Melbu Frahnma's spirit went dormant until he could take over the hero, Zieg. Using Zieg's body, Melbu Frahnma manipulated several massive wars and multiple murders to engineer his ascent to power and to fuse with a 'seed' of a God and become the god of destruction. He plans to become the new god emperor of the world and destroy or make slaves of every race. Not even the Winglies are exempt, as Melbu Frahnma displays full willingness to wipe them out should they resist him.
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* CompleteMonster: Melbu Frahnma.Frahnma was the emperor of the winged humanoid race called the Winglies. Promoting a racist philosophy, Melbu Frahnma spread the belief that every single thing that wasn't a Wingly deserved annihilation, but it was the 'grace' of his empire to spare them as slaves. After being overthrown, Melbu Frahnma's spirit went dormant until he could take over the hero, Zieg. Using Zieg's body, Melbu Frahnma manipulated several massive wars and multiple murders to engineer his ascent to power and to fuse with a 'seed' of a God and become the god of destruction. He plans to become the new god emperor of the world and destroy or make slaves of every race. Not even the Winglies are exempt, as Melbu Frahnma displays full willingness to wipe them out should they resist him.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Bears some very slight similarities to the megahit ''FinalFantasyVII'', released two years prior. It's generally agreed that these are superficial in nature, since ''Legend of Dragoon'''s storyline and characters are radically different.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Bears some very slight similarities to the megahit ''FinalFantasyVII'', released two years prior. It's generally agreed that these are superficial in nature, since ''Legend of Dragoon'''s storyline storyline, gameplay mechanics, and characters are radically different.
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* ThatOneBoss: Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionally turtle.
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* ThatOneBoss: Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because [[TurnsRed the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionally turtle.turtle]].
** It gets worse: Lenus ''immediately'' takes the gloves off if you go Dragoon.
** It gets worse: Lenus ''immediately'' takes the gloves off if you go Dragoon.
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* CompleteMonster: Fruegal, the sadistic warden of Hellena Prison.
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* CompleteMonster: Fruegal, Melbu Frahnma. Promoting a racist philosophy, Melbu Frahnma spread the sadistic warden belief that every single thing that wasn't a Wingly deserved annihilation, but it was the 'grace' of Hellena Prison.his empire to spare them as slaves. After being overthrown, Melbu Frahnma's spirit went dormant until he could take over the hero, Zieg. Using Zieg's body, Melbu Frahnma manipulated several massive wars and multiple murders to engineer his ascent to power and to fuse with a 'seed' of a God and become the god of destruction. He plans to become the new god emperor of the world and destroy or make slaves of every race. Not even the Winglies are exempt, as Melbu Frahnma displays full willingness to wipe them out should they resist him.
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** Greham.
** Emperor Doel.
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** Emperor Doel.
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* GameBreaker: Proper usage of Item Magic and Dragoon magic alongside magic improving items can blow through the bosses in the game by easilly reaching 6000 or 9999 damage. There is a video on YouTube showing Meru and sometime Shana/Miranda and Dart set to deal massive magical damage turning EVERY boss battles in the game into a total joke as a result.
** Meru as a whole, she started off weak, but during those time she is already a powerful nuke against bosses, with the highest speed stats amongst the cast to make up her fragility, and a ballanced set of Dragoon magic that has single and group nuke, and a healing magic. After MagikarpPower kicks in, she can outdone other characters at everything. The only character who can outdone her at physical damage are Haschel with proper set-up in Red Health.
** There are items that are limited into once-per-battle usage. These items are ridiculously overpowered if used correctly, especially with the limited item slot in this game.
** Meru as a whole, she started off weak, but during those time she is already a powerful nuke against bosses, with the highest speed stats amongst the cast to make up her fragility, and a ballanced set of Dragoon magic that has single and group nuke, and a healing magic. After MagikarpPower kicks in, she can outdone other characters at everything. The only character who can outdone her at physical damage are Haschel with proper set-up in Red Health.
** There are items that are limited into once-per-battle usage. These items are ridiculously overpowered if used correctly, especially with the limited item slot in this game.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical the best dragon attack in the game]] and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage due to their lack of additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they are just as good as, if not better than, Meru in that regard.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical the best dragon attack in the game]] and can keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage due to their because they lack of additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker magic is overpowered in this game]] and they are just as good as, if not better than, Meru in that regard.
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* {{Narm}}: The voice acting in general, especially in the CG cutscenes as it tends to get progressively ''worse'' as the game goes on.
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* FreudWasRight: Rose's "Astral Drain" and "Demon's Gate" spells. Yes, this ''can'' be non-phallic. On top of that, all of Rose's Additions read off like an S&M fan's wet dream. "Whip Smack", "More and More", "Hard Blade", and even "Demon's Dance" to a degree.
** Rose's voice actor not only says the names of her additions, but throws a single word into the longer ones as well. That word is [[MoodDissonance die]].
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* FreudWasRight: Rose's "Astral Drain" and "Demon's Gate" spells. Yes, this ''can'' be non-phallic. On top of that, all of Rose's Additions read off like an S&M fan's wet dream. "Whip Smack", "More and More", "Hard Blade", and even "Demon's Dance" to a degree. \n** Rose's voice actor not only says the names of her additions, but throws a single word into the longer ones as well. That word is [[MoodDissonance die]].
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* TierInducedScrappy: Kongol. Slow as all get out, has the magic defense of a wet paper bag, and only has three additions, with the first two giving ridiculously small amounts of SP, making it an absolute ''chore'' to get his Dragoon levels up. If you didn't buy his Dragoon Spirit earlier on, it's doubtful you'd bother leveling it up in the final dungeon.
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** Kongol. Slow as all get out, has the magic defense of a wet paper bag, and only has three additions, with the first two giving ridiculously small amounts of SP, making it an absolute ''chore'' to get his Dragoon levels up. If you didn't buy his Dragoon Spirit earlier on, it's doubtful you'd bother leveling it up in the final dungeon.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two undoubtedly have [[AwesomeYetPractical undoubtedly the best dragon attack in the game]] and can pretty much keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage due to their lack of additions, and that's literally their ''only'' additions. Their only gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker Magic magic is overpowered in this game]] and they are just as good, good as, if not better than than, Meru in that regardsregard.
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** Shana and Miranda. While the two have [[AwesomeYetPractical undoubtedly the best dragon attack in the game]] and can pretty much keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage due to their lack of additions, and that's literally their ''only'' gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some. However, [[GameBreaker Magic is overpowered in this game]] and they are just as good, if not better than Meru in that regards
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* AlasPoorVillain: Greham.
** Emperor Doel.
* BaseBreaker: Miranda. To half the fandom she's TheScrappy, to the other half she's an emotionally compelling BrokenBird.
* ClicheStorm: Notably though, plenty of tropes are subverted and deconstructed instead of played straight.
* CompleteMonster: Fruegal, the sadistic warden of Hellena Prison.
* CriticalDissonance: While critics had mixed feelings about the game, the gamers' opinion was, and still is, significantly greater.
* FanPreferredCouple: Dart and Rose, who get scores of [[ShipTease tease lines]] and romantic interludes (especially in Disc 2).
* FreudWasRight: Rose's "Astral Drain" and "Demon's Gate" spells. Yes, this ''can'' be non-phallic. On top of that, all of Rose's Additions read off like an S&M fan's wet dream. "Whip Smack", "More and More", "Hard Blade", and even "Demon's Dance" to a degree.
** Rose's voice actor not only says the names of her additions, but throws a single word into the longer ones as well. That word is [[MoodDissonance die]].
* ItWasHisSled: If you’re reading this page, chances are you already know everything in the spoilers.
* MagnificentBastard: Lloyd.
* NeedsMoreLove: [[http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25711337&user=NuKkU In a GameStop user's Top Ten Most Underrated Video Games of All Time blog]], the game is ranked #1. Despite being a two-million unit seller, the game has only recently been uploaded to the PlayStation Store, and even then, it was only in Japan until May 1 of 2012.
* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins in disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.
* {{Squick}}: The ShipTease moments between Dart and Rose, considering that Dart's already committed to Shana, Rose is [[spoiler: [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Eleven Thousand Years Old]]]] and she used to the fiancee of [[spoiler: Dart's dad]].
* TearJerker: The CallBack in the ending movie to a conversation between Dart and Lavitz.
* ThatOneBoss: Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionally turtle.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Bears some very slight similarities to the megahit ''FinalFantasyVII'', released two years prior. It's generally agreed that these are superficial in nature, since ''Legend of Dragoon'''s storyline and characters are radically different.
* TierInducedScrappy: Kongol. Slow as all get out, has the magic defense of a wet paper bag, and only has three additions, with the first two giving ridiculously small amounts of SP, making it an absolute ''chore'' to get his Dragoon levels up. If you didn't buy his Dragoon Spirit earlier on, it's doubtful you'd bother leveling it up in the final dungeon.
** If you do get his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, [[MagikarpPower he's absolutely unstoppable in a physical fight]].
** However, if you manage to loot some Bandit's Rings or shoes during the game, he easily moves into LightningBruiser territory right out of the gate. Add on the Legend Casque if you had the money for it, and he becomes NighInvulnerable.
** Shana and Miranda. While the two have [[AwesomeYetPractical undoubtedly the best dragon attack in the game]] and can pretty much keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage due to their lack of additions, and that's literally their ''only'' gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Lavitz.]]
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* AlasPoorVillain: Greham.
** Emperor Doel.
* BaseBreaker: Miranda. To half the fandom she's TheScrappy, to the other half she's an emotionally compelling BrokenBird.
* ClicheStorm: Notably though, plenty of tropes are subverted and deconstructed instead of played straight.
* CompleteMonster: Fruegal, the sadistic warden of Hellena Prison.
* CriticalDissonance: While critics had mixed feelings about the game, the gamers' opinion was, and still is, significantly greater.
* FanPreferredCouple: Dart and Rose, who get scores of [[ShipTease tease lines]] and romantic interludes (especially in Disc 2).
* FreudWasRight: Rose's "Astral Drain" and "Demon's Gate" spells. Yes, this ''can'' be non-phallic. On top of that, all of Rose's Additions read off like an S&M fan's wet dream. "Whip Smack", "More and More", "Hard Blade", and even "Demon's Dance" to a degree.
** Rose's voice actor not only says the names of her additions, but throws a single word into the longer ones as well. That word is [[MoodDissonance die]].
* ItWasHisSled: If you’re reading this page, chances are you already know everything in the spoilers.
* MagnificentBastard: Lloyd.
* NeedsMoreLove: [[http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25711337&user=NuKkU In a GameStop user's Top Ten Most Underrated Video Games of All Time blog]], the game is ranked #1. Despite being a two-million unit seller, the game has only recently been uploaded to the PlayStation Store, and even then, it was only in Japan until May 1 of 2012.
* ReplacementScrappy: Miranda is usually seen as this, for replacing Shana. It's not simply because they liked the character she replaces better (Albert also is a replacement for Lavitz), but more that Miranda joins in disc 3, and doesn't get enough screentime when the plot ''really'' starts to get in motion, giving people the impression she was tacked on in mid-development.
* {{Squick}}: The ShipTease moments between Dart and Rose, considering that Dart's already committed to Shana, Rose is [[spoiler: [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Eleven Thousand Years Old]]]] and she used to the fiancee of [[spoiler: Dart's dad]].
* TearJerker: The CallBack in the ending movie to a conversation between Dart and Lavitz.
* ThatOneBoss: Lenus is the biggest example the first time you face her because the number of attacks she gets increases the more damage you deal, and she will spam her powerful magical attacks if you intentionally turtle.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Bears some very slight similarities to the megahit ''FinalFantasyVII'', released two years prior. It's generally agreed that these are superficial in nature, since ''Legend of Dragoon'''s storyline and characters are radically different.
* TierInducedScrappy: Kongol. Slow as all get out, has the magic defense of a wet paper bag, and only has three additions, with the first two giving ridiculously small amounts of SP, making it an absolute ''chore'' to get his Dragoon levels up. If you didn't buy his Dragoon Spirit earlier on, it's doubtful you'd bother leveling it up in the final dungeon.
** If you do get his spirit early and take the time to level up his Additions, [[MagikarpPower he's absolutely unstoppable in a physical fight]].
** However, if you manage to loot some Bandit's Rings or shoes during the game, he easily moves into LightningBruiser territory right out of the gate. Add on the Legend Casque if you had the money for it, and he becomes NighInvulnerable.
** Shana and Miranda. While the two have [[AwesomeYetPractical undoubtedly the best dragon attack in the game]] and can pretty much keep the party alive through ''anything'', they do pitiful damage due to their lack of additions, and that's literally their ''only'' gimmick is that they can be almost permanently in dragoon form. In a game where healing can be outclassed easily, they're just not worth the effort for some.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Lavitz.]]
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