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* '''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses to marry Alice.
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* '''Played Straight''': '''Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses to marry Alice.
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** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic [[StepforSmiler Stepford Smilers]] who want to live the perfect, suitable suburban life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
* '''Reconstructed''': SexIsGood; it is realized that the "good" girl Bob marries likely wants to have (and enjoy) sex, not just LieBackAndThinkOfEngland, and the "wild" woman Bob hooks up with is (barring a drug addiction or other major malfunction ''not'' related to her sexuality) very likely capable of being nurturing and faithful.
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic [[StepforSmiler Stepford Smilers]] who want to live the perfect, suitable suburban life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
* '''Reconstructed''': SexIsGood; it is realized that the "good" girl Bob marries likely wants to have (and enjoy) sex, not just LieBackAndThinkOfEngland, and the "wild" woman Bob hooks up with is (barring a drug addiction or other major malfunction ''not'' related to her sexuality) very likely capable of being nurturing and faithful.
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* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of women in the world: the women you marry and have kids with, and the women you fuck".
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* '''Enforced''': MyGirlIsNotASlut, ValuesDissonance
* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of women in the world: the women you marry and have kids with, and the women you fuck".
* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of women in the world: the women you marry and have kids with, and the women you fuck".
* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but [[ParentalMarriageVeto his family doesn't approve]]; [[AnimeInLaws they introduce him to]] Alice, the daughter of one of their friends from church and all the while hinting what a 'NiceGirl' she is.
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* '''Enforced''': MyGirlIsNotASlut, ValuesDissonance
* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but [[ParentalMarriageVeto his family doesn't approve]]; [[AnimeInLaws they introduce him to]] Alice, the daughter of one of their friends from church and all the while hinting what a 'NiceGirl' she is.
* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but [[ParentalMarriageVeto his family doesn't approve]]; [[AnimeInLaws they introduce him to]] Alice, the daughter of one of their friends from church and all the while hinting what a 'NiceGirl' she is.
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic {{Stepford Smiler}}s who want to live the perfect, suitable suburban life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
* '''Reconstructed''': SexIsGood; it is realized that the "good" girl Bob marries likely wants to have (and enjoy) sex, not just LieBackAndThinkOfEngland, and the "wild" woman Bob hooks up with is (barring a drug addiction or other major malfunction ''not'' related to her sexuality) very likely capable of being nurturing and faithful.
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic {{Stepford Smiler}}s who want to live the perfect, suitable suburban life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
* '''Reconstructed''': SexIsGood; it is realized that the "good" girl Bob marries likely wants to have (and enjoy) sex, not just LieBackAndThinkOfEngland, and the "wild" woman Bob hooks up with is (barring a drug addiction or other major malfunction ''not'' related to her sexuality) very likely capable of being nurturing and faithful.
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'''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Women who don't have sex (Good Girls, marriagable) and Women who do have sex (Bad Girls, not marriageable).
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'''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Women who don't have sex (Good Girls, marriagable) and Women who do have sex (Bad Girls, (Whores, not marriageable).
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* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice has two men she likes: Bob (the shy NiceGuy) and Charles (the {{Casanova}}). She chooses Bob.
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* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice has two men she likes: Bob (the shy NiceGuy) and Charles (the {{Casanova}}).(TheCasanova). She chooses Bob.
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* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but [[ParentalMarriageVeto his family doesn't approve]]; [[AnimeInLaws they introduce him to]] [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], the daughter of one of their friends from church.
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* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but [[ParentalMarriageVeto his family doesn't approve]]; [[AnimeInLaws they introduce him to]] [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], Alice, the daughter of one of their friends from church.church and all the while hinting what a 'NiceGirl' she is.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob chooses Betty the EthicalSlut over Alice who is seemingly innocent, but was found to be [[BitchInSheepsClothing manipulative and horrid]].
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* '''Inverted''': Bob chooses Betty the EthicalSlut HookerWithAHeartOfGold over Alice who is seemingly innocent, but was found to be [[BitchInSheepsClothing manipulative and horrid]].
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* '''Inverted''': Bob chooses Betty TheVamp over Alice TheIngenue.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob chooses Betty TheVamp the EthicalSlut over Alice TheIngenue. who is seemingly innocent, but was found to be [[BitchInSheepsClothing manipulative and horrid]].
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* '''Parodied''':'''Parodied''': Alice is blatantly meaner than Betty, but Bob chose the former for being a virgin.
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* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of women in the world: whores and virgins".
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* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of women in the world: whores the women you marry and virgins".have kids with, and the women you fuck".
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Women who don't have sex (Good Girls, marriagable) and Women who do have sex (Bad Girls, not marriageable).
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* '''Subverted''': Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
** Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
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* '''Double Subverted''': But he has feelings for [[ProperLady Alice]]. He eventually breaks up with Betty and marries Alice.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** But he has feelings for [[ProperLady Alice]]. He eventually breaks up with Betty and marries Alice.
** But he has feelings for [[ProperLady Alice]]. He eventually breaks up with Betty and marries Alice.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
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* '''Averted''': Bob doesn't filter women into these categories.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Bob doesn't filter women into these categories.
** Bob doesn't filter women into these categories.
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* '''Played For Drama''': A plotline involving HonorRelatedAbuse and/or SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny
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* '''Played For Drama''': Drama''':
** A plotline involving HonorRelatedAbuse and/or SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny
** A plotline involving HonorRelatedAbuse and/or SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny
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* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of girls in the world: good girls and bad girls.
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* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of girls women in the world: good girls whores and bad girls.virgins".
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Women who don't have sex (Good Girls, marriagable) and Women who do have sex (Bad Girls, not marriageable.
* '''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses Alice.
* '''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses Alice.
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Women who don't have sex (Good Girls, marriagable) and Women who do have sex (Bad Girls, not marriageable.
marriageable).
* '''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses to marry Alice.
* '''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses to marry Alice.
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** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic [[StepforSmiler Stepford Smilers]] who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic [[StepforSmiler Stepford Smilers]] who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian suburban life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "There are two kinds of women in the world: the ones who keep their hymens intact and those who just don't."
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* '''Lampshaded''': Bob says: "There are two kinds of women girls in the world: the ones who keep their hymens intact good girls and those who just don't."bad girls.
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: saintly virgins (marriage/relationship material) and disgusting sluts (casual hookup material).
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: saintly virgins (marriage/relationship material) Women who don't have sex (Good Girls, marriagable) and disgusting sluts (casual hookup material).Women who do have sex (Bad Girls, not marriageable.
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: good girls (marriage/relationship material) and sluts (casual hookup material).
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: good girls saintly virgins (marriage/relationship material) and disgusting sluts (casual hookup material).
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* '''Lampshaded''': "There are two kinds of girls in the world: good girls and bad girls.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "There are two kinds of girls women in the world: good girls the ones who keep their hymens intact and bad girls.those who just don't."
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* '''Defied''': See Inverted
** See Subverted"Guys who measure a woman's worth on her hymen are just insecure about their performance in bed."
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: good girls (marriage/relationship material) and bad girls (casual hookup material).
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* '''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: good girls (marriage/relationship material) and bad girls sluts (casual hookup material).
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** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic {{StepforSmiler}}s who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic {{StepforSmiler}}s [[StepforSmiler Stepford Smilers]] who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic StepforSmilers who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic StepforSmilers {{StepforSmiler}}s who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]]]
** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic StepforSmilers who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
** Alice and Bob are CuteButPsycho. Betty is TheMessiah. While Alice and Bob become more and more sociopathic StepforSmilers who want to live the perfect, suitable suburbian life, Betty is a healthy, generous, and romantic person. She ends up finding someone who loves her and thinks that she is important for what she is inside, has the epitome of a beautiful love and family life, and Bob and Alice's children end up asking her help, because they do not want to repeat the life of their parents.
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* '''Deconstructed''': This belief is very misogynistic. It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': This belief is very misogynistic. It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.
**Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
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* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but [[ParentalMarriageVeto his family doesn't approve]]; [[LoveObstructingInLaws [[AnimeInLaws they introduce him to]] [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], the daughter of one of their friends from church.
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** Bob chooses Alice, the "good" girl, but she doesn't have a heck of a lot in common with him; he chooses her on the basis that "she'll make a good wife and mother." Eventually, Bob becomes bored with Alice, and finds himself tempted by Betty and her ilk. Alice is hurt because Bob is losing interest in her and neglecting her, and Bob is hurt because he now feels like it was a big mistake to marry Alice, he feels guilty for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating with]] (or just lusting after) Betty, he blames Betty for his problems, Alice is jealous of Betty, and (ironically) AliceAndBob 's home life is in more danger than it likely would have been if he had just chosen Betty in the first place. The marriage becomes [[AwfulWeddedLife troubled]], and might just end altogether depending on [[ValuesDissonance the setting.]]
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** Bob chooses Alice, but she has had at least one partner before Bob.
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** But only one; not enough in Bob's mind to qualify her as a "whore."
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* '''Subverted''': Bob enters into a relationship with [[MyGirlIsASlut Betty]], filled with lots of hot, passionate sex.
** Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
** Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob enters into a relationship with [[MyGirlIsASlut Betty]], filled with lots of hot, passionate sex.
**Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
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* '''Averted''': ** See SubvertedBob doesn't filter women into these categories.
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* '''Exaggerated''':
'''Exaggerated''': Bob won't even ''consider'' Betty; he loves [[LovingAShadow (or claims to love)]] Alice, and becomes a DoggedNiceGuy to her.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob has a relationship with Alice that ''does'' include sex, but only after marriage.
* '''Justified''': The story takes place InAWorld where a DaddyDNATest isn't readily available to determine who a baby's father is (and birth control doesn't really exist). It could also be a setting in which the groom and/or his family shells out large sums of money/cattle/land/whatever else is used as currency to acquire a bride.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob has a relationship with Alice that ''does'' include sex, but only after marriage.
* '''Justified''': The story takes place InAWorld where a DaddyDNATest isn't readily available to determine who a baby's father is (and birth control doesn't really exist). It could also be a setting in which the groom and/or his family shells out large sums of money/cattle/land/whatever else is used as currency to acquire a bride.
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* '''Deconstructed''': This belief is very misogynistic. It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': This belief is very misogynistic. It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]]]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.
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* '''Invoked''': Bob hooks up with Betty, but he then meets Alice, and starts to think about "settling down."
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* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but his family doesn't approve; they introduce him to [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], the daughter of one of their friends from church.
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* '''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but his family doesn't approve; they introduce him to [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], the daughter of one of their friends from church.church.
* '''Discussed''': "Betty is fun and sexy, but would you really want ''her'' to be the mother of ''your'' kids?"
* '''Conversed''': "There ''is'' more to a woman than her sexuality; get to know ''her'', and ''then'' decide whether to commit or not."
*'''Played For Laughs''': Alice may be a nice girl, but she's a total {{Gonk}}.
*'''Played For Drama''': A plotline involving HonorRelatedAbuse
** LoveTriangle
** See "Exaggerated"
** IfICantHaveYou
** Bob chooses Alice because "she'd make a good wife," but thinks she's too "vanilla" for his tastes, and finds himself tempted by Betty.
* '''Discussed''': "Betty is fun and sexy, but would you really want ''her'' to be the mother of ''your'' kids?"
* '''Conversed''': "There ''is'' more to a woman than her sexuality; get to know ''her'', and ''then'' decide whether to commit or not."
*'''Played For Laughs''': Alice may be a nice girl, but she's a total {{Gonk}}.
*'''Played For Drama''': A plotline involving HonorRelatedAbuse
** LoveTriangle
** See "Exaggerated"
** IfICantHaveYou
** Bob chooses Alice because "she'd make a good wife," but thinks she's too "vanilla" for his tastes, and finds himself tempted by Betty.
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*'''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: good girls (marriage/relationship material) and bad girls (casual hookup material).
*'''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses Alice.
*'''Exaggerated''':
*'''Downplayed''':
*'''Inverted''': Bob chooses Betty TheVamp over Alice TheIngenue.
*'''Gender Inverted''': Alice has two men she likes: Bob (the shy NiceGuy) and Charles (the {{Casanova}}). She chooses Bob.
*'''Subverted''': Bob enters into a relationship with [[MyGirlIsASlut Betty]], filled with lots of hot, passionate sex.
** Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
** Bob chooses to TakeAThirdOption that he likes better.
*'''Double Subverted''': But he has feelings for [[ProperLady Alice]]. He eventually breaks up with Betty and marries Alice.
** But Alice keeps this side of her personality [[NaughtyByNight notoriously private]].
*'''Deconstructed''': This belief is very misogynistic. It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]]
*'''Reconstructed''': SexIsGood; it is realized that the "good" girl Bob marries likely wants to have (and enjoy) sex, not just LieBackAndThinkOfEngland, and the "wild" woman Bob hooks up with is (barring a drug addiction or other major malfunction ''not'' related to her sexuality) very likely capable of being nurturing and faithful.
*'''Parodied''':
*'''Zig Zagged''': Bob has relationships with the virgin, the town bicycle, and lots of women in between.
*'''Lampshaded''': "There are two kinds of girls in the world: good girls and bad girls.
*'''Averted''': ** See Subverted
** See Inverted
** Bob has no LoveInterests, and is a CelibateHero.
*'''Invoked''':
*'''Defied''': See Inverted
** See Subverted
*'''Enforced''': MyGirlIsNotASlut, ValuesDissonance
*'''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but his family doesn't approve; they introduce him to [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], the daughter of one of their friends from church.
*'''Played Straight''': Bob has two women he likes: Alice (TheIngenue), and Betty (TheVamp). He chooses Alice.
*'''Exaggerated''':
*'''Downplayed''':
*'''Inverted''': Bob chooses Betty TheVamp over Alice TheIngenue.
*'''Gender Inverted''': Alice has two men she likes: Bob (the shy NiceGuy) and Charles (the {{Casanova}}). She chooses Bob.
*'''Subverted''': Bob enters into a relationship with [[MyGirlIsASlut Betty]], filled with lots of hot, passionate sex.
** Bob has hot, passionate sex with Alice, and she might even initiate it.
** Bob chooses to TakeAThirdOption that he likes better.
*'''Double Subverted''': But he has feelings for [[ProperLady Alice]]. He eventually breaks up with Betty and marries Alice.
** But Alice keeps this side of her personality [[NaughtyByNight notoriously private]].
*'''Deconstructed''': This belief is very misogynistic. It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]]
*'''Reconstructed''': SexIsGood; it is realized that the "good" girl Bob marries likely wants to have (and enjoy) sex, not just LieBackAndThinkOfEngland, and the "wild" woman Bob hooks up with is (barring a drug addiction or other major malfunction ''not'' related to her sexuality) very likely capable of being nurturing and faithful.
*'''Parodied''':
*'''Zig Zagged''': Bob has relationships with the virgin, the town bicycle, and lots of women in between.
*'''Lampshaded''': "There are two kinds of girls in the world: good girls and bad girls.
*'''Averted''': ** See Subverted
** See Inverted
** Bob has no LoveInterests, and is a CelibateHero.
*'''Invoked''':
*'''Defied''': See Inverted
** See Subverted
*'''Enforced''': MyGirlIsNotASlut, ValuesDissonance
*'''Exploited''': Bob is dating Betty, but his family doesn't approve; they introduce him to [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]], the daughter of one of their friends from church.
