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** Even she was raped, Carol still be PromiscuityAfterRape.


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** ContractualPurity


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* '''Untwisted''': Bob requires kinky sex from Alice, but she has no interest with it, which gives Bob a relief as [[MyGirlIsNotASlut she isn't one of the whore that he dislikes]].
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** Because women who have sex are considered unmarrigeable, this leads to Bob being hesitant to have sex with Alice in fear of "despoiling" her into a "whore" like Carol, and maybe even leading to a scandalous divorce.
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** There is [[VirginShaming a desira]][[MyGirlIsASlut bility flip]] - any woman who hasn't slept around a lot is considered unmarriagble. [[YourMom Saying that somebody's mother has only had sex with their father]] is a deathly insult.

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** There is [[VirginShaming a desira]][[MyGirlIsASlut bility flip]] - any woman who hasn't slept around a lot is considered unmarriagble.unmarriageable. [[YourMom Saying that somebody's mother has only had sex with their father]] is a deathly insult.
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** A woman who lose her virginity within wedlock is considered pure even she is divorced, while an unmarried woman who have sex before marriage is treated as a whore.

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** A woman who lose her virginity within wedlock is considered pure even she is divorced, divorced and seeking for new husband, while an unmarried woman who have has sex before marriage is treated as a whore.whore for "disgracing the traditions".
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** A woman who lose her virginity within wedlock is considered pure even she is divorced, while an unmarried woman who have sex before marriage is treated as a whore.
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** God and Satan play the roles of Madonna and Whore respectively, being a representation of everything good and evil in the world respectively.
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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]...which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be false rumors]]. Later, she is criticized for having sex with Bob....because he is Alice's husband....who is going to divorce from her to re-marry with Carol. However, Carol still being criticized from [[MenActWomenAre being too sexually dominant]] and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].
** For whatever reason, there is SelectiveEnforcement of it, Alice is required to be pure and chaste to be accepted, Carol is considered too promiscuous and too immature with whom to settle down [[MyGirlIsASlut despite there are some men who find her attractive]], Debbie is a HeroicSeductress which boosts her popularity and receives good reputation, and Emma is a {{Sour Prude|s}} OldMaid who is portrayed as [[LonersAreFreaks weird]] and undesirable.

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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can easily get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]...which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be false rumors]]. rumors]] and all of her partners are consensually sleep with her...[[ChastityCouple which consist of nothing]] [[InnocentInnuendo further than ''literally'' sleep]]. Later, she is criticized for having sex with Bob....because he is Alice's husband....who is going to divorce from her to re-marry with Carol. However, Carol still being criticized [[{{Doublethink}} both]] from [[MenActWomenAre being too sexually dominant]] dominant toward her husband]], and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].
performing sex too infrequently after marriage.
** For whatever reason, there is SelectiveEnforcement of it, Alice is required to be pure and chaste to be accepted, Carol is considered too promiscuous and too immature with whom to settle down [[MyGirlIsASlut despite there are some men who find her attractive]], Debbie is a HeroicSeductress which boosts GoodBadGirl who uses her extravagantly promiscuous lifestyle to boost her popularity and receives good reputation, and Emma is a {{Sour Prude|s}} OldMaid who is portrayed as [[LonersAreFreaks weird]] and undesirable.
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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]...which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be false rumors]]. Later, she is criticized for having sex with Bob....because he is Alice's husband....who is going to divorce from her to re-marry with Carol. However, Carol still criticized from [[MenActWomenAre being too sexually dominant]] and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].

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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]...which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be false rumors]]. Later, she is criticized for having sex with Bob....because he is Alice's husband....who is going to divorce from her to re-marry with Carol. However, Carol still being criticized from [[MenActWomenAre being too sexually dominant]] and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].
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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]... which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be fake]]. However, she still criticized from her unstable sex life and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].
** For whatever reason, there is SelectiveEnforcement of it, Alice is expected to be pure and chaste to be accepted, Carol is considered too promiscuous and too immature with whom to settle down [[MyGirlIsASlut despite there are some men who find her attractive]], Debbie is a HeroicSeductress which boosts her popularity and receives good reputation, and Emma is a {{Sour Prude|s}} OldMaid who is portrayed as weird and undesirable.

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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]... which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be fake]]. false rumors]]. Later, she is criticized for having sex with Bob....because he is Alice's husband....who is going to divorce from her to re-marry with Carol. However, she Carol still criticized from her unstable sex life [[MenActWomenAre being too sexually dominant]] and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].
** For whatever reason, there is SelectiveEnforcement of it, Alice is expected required to be pure and chaste to be accepted, Carol is considered too promiscuous and too immature with whom to settle down [[MyGirlIsASlut despite there are some men who find her attractive]], Debbie is a HeroicSeductress which boosts her popularity and receives good reputation, and Emma is a {{Sour Prude|s}} OldMaid who is portrayed as weird [[LonersAreFreaks weird]] and undesirable.

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** Women are ''normally'' expect to be pure and chaste, but she shouldn't reject all kind of sexuality because NotWantingKidsIsWeird.



* '''Averted''': Neither Alice's nor Carol's morals are connected to their sexuality.

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** Carol's ReallyGetsAround is considered as a bad thing, but [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale she can get away]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale from her rape actions]]... which later [[FalseRapeAccusation turn out to be fake]]. However, she still criticized from her unstable sex life and [[NotWantingKidsIsWeird have no children]].
** For whatever reason, there is SelectiveEnforcement of it, Alice is expected to be pure and chaste to be accepted, Carol is considered too promiscuous and too immature with whom to settle down [[MyGirlIsASlut despite there are some men who find her attractive]], Debbie is a HeroicSeductress which boosts her popularity and receives good reputation, and Emma is a {{Sour Prude|s}} OldMaid who is portrayed as weird and undesirable.
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Neither Alice's nor Carol's morals are connected to their sexuality.sexuality.
** [[NoHuggingNoKissing Sexuality is absented in the work]].
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'''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Respectable Women who don't have sex (marriageable) and Whores who do have sex (not marriageable).

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'''Basic Trope''': [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of women]]: Respectable Women who don't have sex (marriageable) and Whores who do have sex (not marriageable). The former is favored.
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* '''Straight''': The main premise revolves around [[BettyAndVeronica Bob having to choose between two female suitors of opposing types in regards to sexuality]]: Alice, TheIngenue, and Carol, TheVamp. In the end, Alice is held in high regard because of her chastity and obtains happiness by being HappilyMarried with Bob, while Carol is dumped, demonised and suffers a CruelAndUnusualDeath.

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* '''Straight''': The main premise revolves around [[BettyAndVeronica Bob having to choose between two female suitors of opposing types in regards to sexuality]]: Alice, TheIngenue, and Carol, TheVamp. In the end, Alice is held in high regard because of her chastity and obtains happiness by being HappilyMarried with Bob, while Carol is dumped, demonised and suffers a CruelAndUnusualDeath.destroyed.



** The main premise revolves around Alice having to choose between two male suitors of opposing types in regards to sexuality: Bob, the ChasteHero, and Charles, TheCasanova. In the end, Bob is held in high regard because of his chastity and obtains happiness by being HappilyMarried with Alice, while Charles is dumped, demonised, and suffers a CruelAndUnusualDeath.

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** The main premise revolves around Alice having to choose between two male suitors of opposing types in regards to sexuality: Bob, the ChasteHero, and Charles, TheCasanova. In the end, Bob is held in high regard because of his chastity and obtains happiness by being HappilyMarried with Alice, while Charles is dumped, demonised, demonised and suffers a CruelAndUnusualDeath.destroyed.

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* '''Straight''': [[BettyAndVeronica Bob has two women who like him]]: Alice, TheIngenue, and Carol, TheVamp.

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* '''Straight''': The main premise revolves around [[BettyAndVeronica Bob has having to choose between two women who like him]]: female suitors of opposing types in regards to sexuality]]: Alice, TheIngenue, and Carol, TheVamp.TheVamp. In the end, Alice is held in high regard because of her chastity and obtains happiness by being HappilyMarried with Bob, while Carol is dumped, demonised and suffers a CruelAndUnusualDeath.



** Carol is a fun-loving GoodBadGirl, while Alice is a {{Sour Prude|s}} who [[StrawFeminist always condemns men]] [[AllMenArePerverts for wanting to have sex]].

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** Carol is The main premise revolves around two women: Carol, a fun-loving GoodBadGirl, while Alice is GoodBadGirl; and Alice, a {{Sour Prude|s}} who [[StrawFeminist always condemns men]] [[AllMenArePerverts for wanting to have sex]].sex]]. The former obtains her happy ending while the latter suffers humiliation and/or death.



* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice has two men who like her; Bob, the shy NiceGuy, and Charles, TheCasanova.

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* '''Gender Inverted''': Inverted''':
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Alice has having to choose between two men who like her; male suitors of opposing types in regards to sexuality: Bob, the shy NiceGuy, ChasteHero, and Charles, TheCasanova.TheCasanova. In the end, Bob is held in high regard because of his chastity and obtains happiness by being HappilyMarried with Alice, while Charles is dumped, demonised, and suffers a CruelAndUnusualDeath.
** [[ThereAreTwoKindsOfPeopleInTheWorld There are two kinds of men]]: Chads who do have sex and are glorified for it, and Virgins who don't have sex and are mocked for it. Search "virgin chad meme" for details.



* '''Discussed''': "Carol is fun and sexy, but would you really want ''her'' to be the mother of ''your'' kids?"
* '''Conversed''': "There ''is'' more to a woman than her sexuality; get to know ''her'', and ''then'' decide whether to commit or not."

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* '''Discussed''': "Carol "Bob, I know that Carol is fun and sexy, but would you really want ''her'' to be the mother of ''your'' kids?"
* '''Conversed''': "There "This show reinforces the "virgin / whore" idea that's closely integrated in femininity. I don't buy it. There ''is'' more to a woman than her sexuality; get to know ''her'', and ''then'' decide whether to commit or not."
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** The show is a PeriodPiece, talking about a time where birth control didn't exist, where [=STD=]s ran rampant and death from childbirth was at an all time high. The values exposed simply reflect a past reality.

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** The show is a PeriodPiece, talking about a time where birth control didn't exist, where [=STD=]s ran rampant and death from childbirth was at an all time high. [[DeliberateValuesDissonance The values exposed simply reflect a past reality. reality.]]



** Carol is a HookerWithAHeartOfGold, while Alice is a {{Sour Prude|s}} who [[StrawFeminist always condemns men]] [[AllMenArePerverts for wanting to have sex]].

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** Carol is a HookerWithAHeartOfGold, fun-loving GoodBadGirl, while Alice is a {{Sour Prude|s}} who [[StrawFeminist always condemns men]] [[AllMenArePerverts for wanting to have sex]].



** There is [[VirginShaming a desirabi]][[MyGirlIsASlut lity flip]] - any woman who hasn't slept around a lot is considered unmarriagble. [[YourMom Saying that somebody's mother has only had sex with their father]] is a deathly insult.

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** There is [[VirginShaming a desirabi]][[MyGirlIsASlut lity desira]][[MyGirlIsASlut bility flip]] - any woman who hasn't slept around a lot is considered unmarriagble. [[YourMom Saying that somebody's mother has only had sex with their father]] is a deathly insult.

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*** Alternatively, Alice simply ''can't'' just "flip the switch" and go from GirlNextDoor to SexGoddess. Both Bob and Alice feel ripped off, like they're trapped into something that "wasn't supposed to be this way."

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*** Alternatively, ** Alice simply ''can't'' just "flip the switch" and go from GirlNextDoor to SexGoddess. Both Bob and Alice feel ripped off, like they're trapped into something that "wasn't supposed to be this way."



* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice's [[PureIsNotGood purity isn't portrayed as a good thing]], while Carol does show PetTheDog moments, especially towards Bob.

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Alice's [[PureIsNotGood purity isn't portrayed as a good thing]], while Carol does show PetTheDog moments, especially towards Bob.

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