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Matitya Since: Dec, 2020
01/01/2021 12:30:30 •••

Frozen is so overrated it’s underrated

I actually liked Frozen. I don’t think it’s actually one of the greatest movies in the history of WesternAnimation and I honestly prefer the sequel. Neither one of those makes the first one bad. When Queen Elsa shirks her duties to the throne and abandons Arendelle in a time of crisis, that’s honestly par for the course for a Disney movie. But unlike other movies like TheLionKing wherein Nala calls out Simba for not doing his duty to the throne {{Whatthe Hell,Hero}} Elsa never gets a WhattheHellHero at all. That suggests that the film sports a certain level of ProtagonistCenteredMorality or maybe the producers don’t see anything wrong with the behaviour in which case it’s ValuesDissonance. And Princess Anna the next in line decides to leave Arendelle to seek out Queen Elsa instead of doing her job of ruling the kingdom in her absence. The way I see it, that’s bad. That one is probably ValuesDissonance. Of course she leaves Prince Hans in charge {{And That’sBad}} because even accepting that he truly loved her that’s not a qualification to rule an entire country.,Now to address the BaseBreakingCharacter Prince Hans the BigBad of the film. I don’t think Hans is a good plot twist villain. He appears to be genuinely kind and in love with Princess Anna including when neither Elsa nor Anna are there like with the PetTheDog moment he gets with the blanket scene. Or the fact that he is nice and kind to Princess Anna before he knew who she was such that he would have passed a SecretTestOfCharacter. And if he hadn’t chosen to go with Weselton’s men, Weselton would have killed Queen Elsa. And if he hadn’t interceded when Weselton’s men fired a crossbow at her, Queen Elsa would have also died. He could easily have let them kill Queen Elsa and lied to Princess Anna and she would have believed him. Also Love is an Open Door is not a VillainSong.

That said there was a lot to like about the movie. Olaf is a genuinely funny character. And while Kristoff isn’t a particularly stimulating character I don’t dislike him. The songs are pretty good. The idea of celebrating total isolation from all other people with a song like Queen Elsa does in Let it Go is something that I honestly think is disturbing but I think the song is good enough to justify ignoring that. The relationship between Queen Elsa and Princess Anna is pretty well-written. And I like that in the end what’s needed to save the day is a Heroic Sacrifice. I think that Prince Hans as the villain was a good idea though poorly executed. I think that he got off too early at the end. Still, all things considered I think it’s a good movie. I also think that early on it got more hype than it deserved and people responded to it being overrated by fixating on all of its problems {{It’sPopularNowItSucks}}. But I think that they get it wrong and that it’s a much better film than they give it credit for. In short it was overrated and as a result became underrated.

Valiona Since: Mar, 2011
12/29/2020 00:00:00

There are a few structural problems with your review.

  • You need more paragraph breaks. Having one in the middle is a step in the right direction compared to your other Wall Of Text reviews, but not nearly enough for a review that's this long.
  • You also need to organize your thoughts better. Paragraphs should be for separate topics, and each sentence in that paragraph should support the main idea. For example, Hans should have his own paragraph, separate from the part about Anna and Elsa.
  • You should make sure that the trope names actually work (And That's Bad is not a trope name) and are properly spelled (there's no comma in the link to What The Hell Hero), or the links won't work. You should preview it to check each link.
  • You also should consider how you use potholes. For example, if you want to show that Hans is a Base Breaking Character, you can simply pothole the trope to Hans' name, like this.
  • Some of your points, such as about the relationship between Anna and Elsa being well-written, could have been elaborated on more. Perhaps you would have needed to cut out some of what you wanted to say, or trim other parts down, but knowing what to say and how to most efficiently say it is an important part of writing.

In all fairness to Elsa, she didn't run away to shirk her duty, but because she was afraid that she couldn't control her powers, and thus would end up endangering her subjects (or that her subjects would turn on her). She didn't realize that she'd caused an endless winter until Anna pointed it out to her. As for Anna, she not only wants her sister back, but probably also knows that Elsa is a better ruler than she is. Hans might be a power-hungry sociopath, but he's also a competent temporary rule for Arendelle.

I agree that it's strange that Hans acts genuinely attracted to Anna before he knew who she was, but it also lends a certain amount of ambiguity to his character. Perhaps he did genuinely care for her to a certain extent, but was still willing to sacrifice her in order to take power. Perhaps his decision to take Elsa in alive was out of the belief that she could somehow be made to end the winter, and he knew that killing her would pose a risk of making the winter permanent, and so only decided to do it when he had no other choice, as well as a pretext for executing her(her supposedly killing Anna).

bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
01/01/2021 00:00:00

I think OP has some valid points, especially their main one. I really agree that the movie became so overrated it became underrated.

I think the Simba-Elsa comparison is pretty apt. Both situations ae complicated (both Simba and Elsa are insecure about their ability to rule due to prior trauma, and both undergo periods where they avoid confronting that insecurity and trying to become better rulers). Elsa\'s lines, especially in \"Let It Go,\" indicate that she has no intention of trying to be queen if it means that she has to go back to repressing her powers, and when Anna tells her about what\'s happened to the kingdom in her absence, Elsa, like Simba, is upset but insists she can\'t do anything about it.

While she doesn\'t really get an overt What the Hell, Hero?, I do think the writers agree that this is a mistake. She becomes horrified when she learns what\'s happened, and much of the movie focuses on Anna\'s quest to bring her back and save the kingdom from the storm. While Anna is very gentle when she talks to Elsa about addressing it (focusing on encouraging Elsa to believe in herself rather than on it being her responsibility), she does do it. And in the end, Elsa realizes that Anna is right that she can do something about it. I think some fans overlook this, though, in part because \"Let It Go\" became such a phenomenon that it overshadows other parts of Elsa\'s arc and the story.

I also agree Anna\'s decision to leave Hans in charge is flawed, although like Valiona, I think she is trying to do her job. I wouldn\'t say she knows Elsa is a better ruler than she is, but she probably does believe it given how much she admires Elsa, and she seems to believe that Elsa is necessary to unfreeze things. She is trying to do what\'s best for the kingdom. The problem is that the way she does it is impulsive and naive, but these flaws are explored and acknowledged by Anna and other characters. I think this also gets overlooked sometimes, though, in part because of how famous the Hans twist is.

The main characters have human flaws, but like OP says, that doesn\'t necessarily make the movie bad. That complexity is even part of the appeal for some people, including me. Everyone has different taste, but I think parts that got a lot of hype overshadowing the parts that didn\'t get that hype led to the movie getting, as OP said, \"so overrated it\'s underrated.\"


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