I've heard that the creators actually don't like how the series keeps getting used by Sword Art Online haters. So would that make a relevant Misaimed Fandom entry?
- Narm: The emotional climax to episode 10 is a little hard to take seriously when Kirito and Asuna have been portrayed as snarky sociopaths throughout the series thus far.
This was expanded to:
- Narm: For some viewers, the emotional climax to episode 10 is a little hard to take seriously when Kirito and Asuna have been portrayed as snarky sociopaths throughout the series thus far. For others though, Asuna and Kirito had both been shown to have a Heart Of Gold and Aw, Look! They Really Do Love Each Other moments in previous episodes. So this felt like a natural extension of that.
and then edited back down to the original format because the additions "Don't fit under the category of Narm.
However, plenty of YMMV entries often examine both sides of the trope. And the way it was originally worded presented the scene less as "You MAY find this Narmy." and more "This IS Narmy." Which feels to me like Stating Opinion As Fact, as well as (And this may be my own subjective outlook here) Misleading and unintentionally dishonest.
I also feel that there's a little bit of bias here since the person who made the original version was ALSO the one to delete the edits. But I'd rather not get into an edit war here, so I've moved this to the discussion page.
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Both are Narm shoehorns anyway as written and need to be deleted.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
What do you mean by shoehorn? I don't believe I'm familiar with the term, nor how it fits into this context.
It's a common term on this wiki used to describe examples that don't fit the definition of a trope.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
While I would PERSONALLY agree with you, from an objective standpoint I have to question how a purely subjective audience reaction like Narm can even have a set definitition?
All YMMV have definitions that examples need to follow regardless of the subjective aspects.
Narm requires that a dramatic scene be seen as falling flat somehow and end up being unintentionally funny instead. Whether or not you agree that it fell flat is the YMMV part.
I don't parse "their dramatic emotional moment ended up being unintentionally funny" from the write-up, just a potential Relationship Writing Fumble. Plus I think the scene was being Played for Laughs anyway, so it fails the drama criteria.
Edited by Karxrida If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Has the better than canon page been removed from here? I can’t seem to find it or even a mention of the trope on the YMMV tab. It doesn’t make sense to me for it to have been removed either
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