Discussion YMMV / DateALive

Maybe, but an Ensemble Darkhorse is not required to be just a minor supporting character.

And this link here not only claims Kurumi to be an Ensemble Dark Horse, but several major antagonists and major protagonists (other than the main main protagonist) of anime are Darkhorses of their respective series, as well.

Plus, in Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, Gokai Red: Captain Marvelous, was also considered a darkhorse.

So, you see, the term Ensemble Darkhorse can apply to just about anybody. It just depends on how popular they are.

Misuse elsewhere doesn't make it okay to misuse it here. Her having her own spin-off novel indicates that she has more focus than average, not less.

According to the Ensemble Darkhorse article itself, quote:

"This trope is used to describe a side character making up part of the Ensemble, either a non-lead secondary character or a mere Flat Character, who then becomes unexpectedly popular with the fandom (sometimes, even more than the lead characters) depending on who and where the Fandom is, as well as what the other characters are like in comparison (for example, the hero is not as popular because they're too much The Everyman). Often, this can happen because the character has very few character traits, allowing fans to imagine this character to have traits that they like. The Ensemble Darkhorse can sometimes be viewed as the character equivalent of a Cult Classic."

I believe Kurumi qualifies as a non-lead secondary character.

But what is a suitable YMMV trope for a popular character like her if she still doesn't qualify as an Ensemble Darkhorse?

No, she is not a secondary character. Much like the other Spirits, including the big three (Tohka, Origami, Kotori), she has a plot-relevant relationship with the protagonist and stories focused on her Character Development. Really, the fact ''all' Spirits are considered main characters (because they have origin stories and episodes dedicated to their character development) prevents them from being EDs.

Very well, then.

But I wonder, who would be considered an ED for this series (definitely not Ai, Mai, and/or Mii, considering they're The Scrappies)?

And what is a suitable YMMV trope for a popular character like Kurumi if she still doesn't qualify as an ED?

Kurumi as it stands is a Breakout Character (Character Page trope) who gets her own side story in Date A Live Fragment: Date A Bullet.

Cool. I just added that to her character page.

But I'm still wondering who'd make an ED if not any of the Spirits?

It'd have to be minor recurring flat characters like Raizen high school students, AST team members and maybe even Fraxinus crew members, but none of these seem to be getting traction in popularity. Ensemble Dark Horse is not an omnipresent trope; if there's no such minor character that the fandom has a liking to, then it doesn't apply.

I sincerely hope you're ready to back up your argument in the Complete Monster cleanup thread. Besides, I would advise you against paraphrasing anything from the villains wiki since there's a lot of poorly written articles, even the one approved Complete Monster from the spin-off.

Yeah you make a good point, you see I am a big fan of TV tropes a I want to make many new article for the Tropes website, so I recently made an account for TV tropes for that very reason, but it seems the I'm a bit too naive fully understand TV tropes but do you believe that I can discuss the topic with the forum or should I wait a little while longer until I have more experience

Don't be afraid to post your opinion over there. As it stands, the consensus is to not add him yet since his part of the story is not done.

That makes more sense

Wrong post.