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Timjames98 Since: May, 2014
Feb 9th 2022 at 11:43:11 AM •••

I disagree with a part of the Crystal Dragon Jesus entry. Specifically, this part:

"complete with a Heaven for the righteous and a Hell for the unrighteous, though they both ultimately amount to Cessation of Existence"

When Sir Brante goes to the peak of the pillar we see the Younger cut the Elder open, Sir Brante's soul being placed inside of the Elder through that cut, and then it being stated that said soul abides therein. The word "abide" can mean "obey", or it can also mean "dwell", but either way its used in the present tense which suggests Sir Brante's soul isn't destroyed. This ending sounds more like the Hindu concept of Moksha in which a soul joins with God - Hindus generally don't consider Moksha to be Cessation of Existence.

When Sir Brante goes to the base of the pillar in the normal path we see the Younger chop his soul, rending Sir Brante's soul into a lot of tiny pieces. This ending is less ambiguous, saying that Sir Brante understands the suffering of nonexistence.

If Sir Brante goes to the base of the pillar in the Willist ending (i.e. he gets burned alongside Father Ulrich but doesn't meet the perquisites to become the God of Will), Sir Brante's soul keeps existing after the sword strikes it. He stops seeing the light of the Twins and the souls of the damned drag him down to eternal suffering.

Given all the above, saying "they both amount to Cessation of Existence" is overly simplified and frankly incorrect. Please change it.

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Ramidel (Before Time Began)
Feb 9th 2022 at 6:47:34 PM •••

I don't agree that it's "frankly incorrect," but we can argue metaphysics in circles all day. Fortunately, said metaphysical arguments happen In-Universe too.

I changed it to "Father Mark makes the case that they both amount to Cessation of Existence." That part's unambiguous, and whether he's correct can be left up to the player.

I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
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