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The best part about this tropes is how men blame women for it, while the trope is in fact men's own fault (it's the men who regard women differently, and it's the men who do the idiot shit).

~ * Bleh * ~ (Looking for a russian-speaker to consult about names and words for a thing)

So what exactly is the "line" of this trope? Somewhere between a day and a week?

I stopped listening after you said "We need a plan." Hide / Show Replies

Removed this, becuase I don't think it really fits the trope. Those suitors wanted to marry her because of her looks, but they weren't out questing or dying for her honor. They were convinced to swear oaths to protect whichever of them was chosen as her husband, because each hoped he'd be the one chosen. They went to war for those oaths, not for her or Menelaus' honor.

• In the various accounts of the war over Helen of Troy, one thing stays consistent: everybody was willing to betray their mother to get a chance at Helen.
  • Most of the kings of Greece saw Helen and proposed without knowing her at all. Her father made them promise to protect her and her husband no matter what and when she went missing, they became her champions.
  • Some accounts say that Helen willingly left her husband for Paris upon meeting him, courtesy of Eros' arrows.

Edited by ArcadesSabboth Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.

I always call this the "inner steed" after the white knight. Your inner steed rides you to knightly bullshit if you aren't careful about how you steer.