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Aug 3rd 2016 at 2:36:48 PM •••

If there were to be a royal diaries series for male royals who would be included?

Sep 24th 2014 at 11:17:28 PM •••

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  • Spirited Young Lady: In Elizabeth I: Red Rose of the House of Tudor Princess Elizabeth was caught getting mad and swearing at her monkey by her father the king so she dropped to her knees immediately and requested forgiveness for her vile tongue from His Majesty. The king made her look at his stern face and just walked off.

To me, it looks more like a Proper Lady who lapsed for a moment and immediately regretted it. Not much spirit in her behaviour, not enough spunk, too subservient to stand up for herself. Just a Proper Lady who was being improper.

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I'm not familiar with the work in question, but just from your example it sounds a little iffy. By my understanding, a Spirited Young Lady is a girl who "bends the rules on what's ladylike in the 18th-19th century". The trope description suggests that it is somewhat subtle: she has unladylike traits or behaviors, but still fits in well with high society for the most part. It seems like the example is based mostly on the fact that she has a foul mouth, which strikes me as not so much "bending the rules" as it is "smashing one particular rule with a hammer", which I don't feel qualifies for the trope. There is also mention of her not wanting to get married, but I'm not sure how that's relevant considering the SYL trope says such a lady is independent, but not against the idea of marrying. So, again, I don't feel that qualifies her for the trope.

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