This has always bugged me: When Marcellus calls Winston Wolf, it is morning. Bonnie is due home early after the night shift at the hospital, remember? When we see Mr. Wolf's side of the phone call with Marcellus, he is in a tux, sitting on a bed, at what looks like a dinner party(?). what? What event is Mr. Wolf attending/hosting in a tux early int he morning? His house is full of other formally dressed people. Certainly they wouldn't be wearing tuxes, et al, at a funeral reception.
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It's meant to imply that Wolf is the kind of cool guy who's so cool he's still partying at seven in the morning; like his life is a non-stop party.
It's meant to imply that Wolf is the kind of cool guy who's so cool he's still partying at seven in the morning; like his life is a non-stop party.
This is Complaining About Characters You Dont Like, not a plot hole. Many of these points are indicators that Butch is perhaps not the brightest of men; that in itself is a character flaw, not a plot hole, and doesn't mean we shouldn't or can't find him a (relatively, given the other characters in the movie) sympathetic or decent person. More importantly, however, none of them are plot holes, and all of them are given an explanation by the story or make sense within the context of the story outside of the skewed interpretations being offered here.
- Why is Butch considered a hero or good guy in the end? How has he repented? Let's start from the beginning.
- Double crosses a mob boss.
- Okay, first of all, how the hell does this make sense? In order for a fixed fight to pay well enough to go through with it, you have to bet — and rig the fight — *against the odds.* Butch bets on himself — *with the odds,* which is going to be a lower payout. So Marcellus would have had to have been giving Butch a lower cut of the take than he would get from betting on himself, which makes Marcellus unbelievably stupid, as well as Butch, because Butch ought to have been able to negotiate for a better cut simply on those grounds.
- Furthermore, Butch can't be doing this to keep his career afloat, because after he pulls the switch, he's got to go underground. It's pretty clear he doesn't like the things Marcellus is saying and wants to prove that he's still capable of winning a fight.
- Next, he goes BACK to his house. Sentimentality is kind of a stupid reason to return to a wolves' den.
- By sheer luck, he manages to get the stupid watch, scot free. Instead of GTFO, he lingers.
- He finds a strange gun on the table. He still doesn't GTFO. He *picks it up.*
- He hears someone in the apartment. Again, doesn't GTFO.
- Finally he GTF Os, and then sees Marcellus, on foot. Instead of driving the fuck away, he totals the car.
- He leads Marcellus to the pawn shop where he is going to get raped. Again — this is all *Butch's* fault. Not that he knew it was a rape den pawn shop, but that he has kept this fight going and is continuing to lead it on.
- Never mind that Butch has a change of heart and decides not to leave Marcellus behind. But Marcellus *still gets raped.* Butch doesn't save Marcellus from that.
- Butch doesn't actually kill the person who rapes Marcellus. Instead, he kills the hapless onlooker, who while an accessory, hasn't actually done any of the raping.
- The Gimp is as much a victim of the hillbillies as either him or Marcellus, but he leaves the Gimp behind.
For all those bad decisions, all because of one nearly-averted act of retribution, Marcellus gives Butch amnesty. Note however that *Marcellus doesn't know that Butch has killed Vince.* How exactly is Butch a redeemed hero? He's a stupid, aggro, numbskull. And hell, for all we know, he doesn't decide to go in and save Marcellus out of pity or human dignity, but perhaps his thought all along is, maybe if I do this, he'll give me a pass. Consider that his very first words after killing Maynard and cornering Zed is "What now?" as in "what now between you and me." Not, say, "are you okay?"- Well. First. Immediately after Marcellus shoots Zed, the first thing that Butch asks is "You Okay?" To which Marcellus responds "No, Man. I'm pretty f****** far from ok." But more to the point. I have to ask, where are we really supposed to see Butch as a nice guy? Tarantino films tend to involve a lot of black-and-grey morality and this one is certainly no exception. Let's face it, there are NO good guys in this movie at all. At least none with any significance. And Butch really is no exception. Everything you said about him is very correct, and I really think (and I'm pretty sure I remember from somewhere) that that is the point.
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