AMEN. The Org. members shouldn't be Draco in Leather Pants, but none are Complete Monsters save possibly Xemnas (due to the Master Xehanort influence). It's not like Vanitas who, while made of pure darkness not of his own choice, still has a heart and emotions and chooses to be a total irredeemable dickwad. Nobodies, by definition, can't feel any real emotion or sense of morality (except if they get really close to a heart, as Axel discovered first-hand), so while their actions aren't excusable, calling them Complete Monsters when being a cold bastard and not feeling human is a literal handicap makes no sense.
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GENTLEMEN!
I BRING YOU ORDER!
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I was just looking under the character sheets, and under Saix and Larxene is the term Complete Monster. What now?! Why are they the only complete monsters, and not the rest of the org?! Are you kidding me! What did those two do that the entire org hasn't? Seriously. So Larxene taunted Sora, Namine and the Riku replica,and physically hit all three? All the freaking members, including everybody's fan favorite Axel, did some semblance of that to them. They even went up a notch and tried to kill Sora and Riku on more than one occasion. Axel even went farther than that and murdered two members, who begged for mercy, in cold blood but he only gets moral event horizon? Really?! Saix says mean things to Xion in Days,(brutally honest technically)and then has Roxas and Xion fight under Xenmas orders. How in world does he get complete monster when again the entire org has tried to manipulate and kill the good guys since Com and Kh2? All the members have crossed the moral event horizon at some point. Their villains so that's inevitable,but only singling Saix and Larxene out as monsters is bs because if they're monsters then so is everyone else.
Xenmas I'll give you,but then again you'll have to call Terra one as well. Since he is him. Riku destroyed his world because he was a jerkass and hungry for darkness. This act made one of his best friends lose her heart. Then in fits of selfish jealously he teams up with more evil, and tries to keep Sora from her.Then he tries to kill him a lot,but is complete monster listed under him for his Kh1 self? Nope. Axel kills two people in the worst displays of coldblooded murder since MX killed ME. Is monster under his listing? Of course not.Then for other examples Marluxia used Namine horribly. Then there's Xaldin and Beast. Also Xigbar/Braig/MX, and what they've done in general, and the list goes on. MX seems to be the only monster really. Since he's responsible for every evil in the series.
Diz and Saix are almost identical in how they treated beings that shouldn't exist,and yet only the latter is the monster? Their treatment is even justified. Saix could never even see Xion so he called her what she is. Brutal honestly usually is brutal. That's the point. Also no heart means no conscious, and thus no empathy. Diz was angry and revenge crazy to all nobodies, good or bad, because of the wrong done to him. Also while I'm on Saix how can one Become the Mask, when jerkass as the goal to get there may be, he was only trying to destroy Xenmas so he and Axel could get their hearts back, and thus their humanity. The same Xenmas who was screwing them all over, an his destruction would be a good thing for everyone and everything. Becoming the Mask? Days and the fridge brilliance of Kh2 would like a word.
So why is monster only for Larxene and Saix? They did no more and no less than the other members,and in some cases the good guys themselves. Jerkass, kick the dog, or moral event horizon? Sure. All the members are guilty,but monster? Unless all the members get that put under them then this looks suspiciously like Namine,Sora,and Xion butthurt. To much of a coincidence that the member that kickboxed Sora and slapped Namine, and the other who said the majority of the things about Xion are the monsters. Especially telling when overall all the members are guilty of messing with the heroes quite badly,and yet only these two get the crown of thorns.
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