Alright, it's been a week, and no one's objected, so I'm going to do this.
To be honest, the only reason why I didn't object to this is that I forgot this existed. I object and I propose the change to be undone in both pages.
Alright, why do you think the move is/was a bad idea?
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Simply for the fact that some tropes that involve Solus don't involve Emet-Selch, they had completely different character designs, and Solus was introduced to the story far before Emet was. Either the Solus folder should be restored, or a sub-folder in Emet's page dedicated solely to Solus' tropes should be added.
I would argue that's also true of the Crystal Exarch and his real identity, but we have all of his tropes in the same place. For the sake of consistency, it makes sense to have Emet/Solus be likewise. I don't mind adding a sub-folder solely for Solus's tropes, but I think it's unnecessary since there wouldn't be that many Solus-exclusive tropes (a lot of them are about stuff Emet does in SB and Sh B). If we do add a sub-folder, we should probably do the same for Exarch again for consistency.
Ferdinand Von Aegir fan
I think this page needs to be split between the Garlean Empire and the Garlean Military since it is getting so full.
Either that, or move the Bozjan Garleans to another page.
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I'm in favor of giving the IVth Legion (i.e., the Bozjan Garleans) its own page.
The Danse Macabre Codex
Would it be good to label it just the Bozjan Garlean Forces or something?
Muramasa got.
I see you moved the entries relating to the IVth Legion. Think you could link to whatever page they ended up on?
Edited by SullenFrog The Danse Macabre Codex
Not the guy who did it, but here it is:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/FinalFantasyXIVBozjanGarleans
The page is officially too big, it's time to move Zenos' page to his own.
ADHD Villain
Does anyone know how to measure bytes in TV Tropes? I feel like Zenos is getting close to needing his own character page, but the rule is his entries have to exceed 40,000 bytes before he gets that honor.
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I copy-pasted his folder into a Word document. If the word count it gave me is accurate, the folder is 39,517 characters in length. Not sure what it works out to in bytes, but he must be getting close for sure.
The Danse Macabre Codex
I would wait until Endwalker where he'll probably have more entries by then.
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Ferdinand Von Aegir fan
I feel like the "Shadowhunter" should be moved to the Allies page at this point.
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Can't really argue with that. Unless something drastic happens in a future patch, it doesn't seem likely that he'll turn against the Warrior of Light or their allies any time soon.
The Danse Macabre Codex
Plus he outright says that he isn't returning, so its likely that if he does, he'll be not as he once was.
Muramasa got.
It's real late but the Ultima Weapon being classified as a Legatus is a bit weird. It's originally Allagan-made, so maybe it should be moved under the "Allagan" category in the Antagonists page instead? Or alternatively under "Garlean Empire" on this page.
Now that Shadowhunter has been confirmed in-game/universe to be Gaius, do we merge their folders? Either way, some extensive rewrites now need to happen throughout.
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I think we should keep them separate, like how the SpiderManPS4 character page has separate folders for the Big Bad and his civilian identity in order to preserve the game's big reveal.
Should we consider moving all tropes related to Solus as an Ascian to the Ascian page, and just keep the pre-4.4 stuff on the garleans page? Or is that unnecessary?
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Probably move him so we don't violate rules about spoiling out things in descriptions and titles.
I agree. Plus, it wouldn't be the first time we've done something like this (i.e., putting Yotsuyu's tropes on the Nations page and Tsukuyomi's tropes on the Primals and Beastmen page); there's precedent.
The Danse Macabre Codex
Speaking of which, it might be prudent to divide Lyse in the same manner to preserve what we can of the Yda bit.
Would Lyse go under Nations while Yda goes under the Scions? Or would it be the other way around?
EDIT: Nevermind, I see you already have it covered.
Edited by SullenFrog The Danse Macabre Codex
Since Emet has his own page now, should we move Solus's tropes onto it? I imagine if we did we'd probably drop a link to Emet's page in the folder and put a "Major Stormblood On Spoilers" warning on top.
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