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... yes, Old Elizabeth is a future version. No one said otherwise. However, Old Elizabeth doesn\'t just send you back to her past, but a similar dimension, hence the changes.
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... yes, Old Elizabeth is a future version. No one said otherwise. However, my idea is that Old Elizabeth doesn\\\'t just send you back to her past, but a similar dimension, hence the changes.
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\'\'The massive changes that take place when Liz opens the tears with the weaponsmith or his tools are clearly foreshadowed by Booker: \
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\\\'\\\'The massive changes that take place when Liz opens the tears with the weaponsmith or his tools are clearly foreshadowed by Booker: \\\"you can\\\'t just bring one dead man back to life\\\". It would have been ideal to do so, but at that point she wasn\\\'t fully in command of her powers, so she brought back more that they needed.\\\'\\\'
That goes both ways. That\\\'s foreshadowing that there is more different between the universes than just \\\"Chen being dead vs Chen being alive.\\\" Like the Vox revolution.
\\\'\\\'I can\\\'t understand why people claim travel between universes over \\\"bringing pieces of them to here\\\", when, during combat, Liz does the exact same thing as a game mechanic. The developers have clearly used it as a storytelling tool as well (no Gameplay And Story Segregation, I think).\\\'\\\'
That\\\'s exactly \\\'\\\'why\\\'\\\' people claim travel between universes (well, that and the fact that\\\'s what the characters said they\\\'re doing). We see Elizabeth bring things over from alternate universes all the time. Every time she opens a tear, that\\\'s what happens. What she does at the dimension-hopping points are clearly different.
\\\'\\\'And how does you version explain the half-dead-half-alive people?\\\'\\\'
How does yours? It\\\'s that their (dead) selves in the original dimension gets sucked through the tear with Booker and Elizabeth and they begin to sync up. It happens to Booker himself when he begins to remember things that happened to Universe-3 Booker. This is also what\\\'s happening in your theory, except there\\\'s also massive, sweeping changes to all of Columbia as well.
Your theory just doesn\\\'t jive with the game. OccamsRazor is at work here. The characters explicitly mention going into the tear into the alternate realities, and that they won\\\'t be able to come back. Not \\\"undo the changes,\\\" but come back. The narrative treats it as going to a new dimension, the vast majority of players see it as that. The burden of proof is on you. So to answer your question... yes, there is some kind of consensus on the matter.
That goes both ways. That\\\'s foreshadowing that there is more different between the universes than just \\\"Chen being dead vs Chen being alive.\\\" Like the Vox revolution.
\\\'\\\'I can\\\'t understand why people claim travel between universes over \\\"bringing pieces of them to here\\\", when, during combat, Liz does the exact same thing as a game mechanic. The developers have clearly used it as a storytelling tool as well (no Gameplay And Story Segregation, I think).\\\'\\\'
That\\\'s exactly \\\'\\\'why\\\'\\\' people claim travel between universes (well, that and the fact that\\\'s what the characters said they\\\'re doing). We see Elizabeth bring things over from alternate universes all the time. Every time she opens a tear, that\\\'s what happens. What she does at the dimension-hopping points are clearly different.
\\\'\\\'And how does you version explain the half-dead-half-alive people?\\\'\\\'
How does yours? It\\\'s that their (dead) selves in the original dimension gets sucked through the tear with Booker and Elizabeth and they begin to sync up. It happens to Booker himself when he begins to remember things that happened to Universe-3 Booker. This is also what\\\'s happening in your theory, except there\\\'s also massive, sweeping changes to all of Columbia as well.
Your theory just doesn\\\'t jive with the game. OccamsRazor is at work here. The characters explicitly mention going into the tear into the alternate realities, and that they won\\\'t be able to come back. Not \\\"undo the changes,\\\" but come back. The narrative treats it as going to a new dimension, the vast majority of players see it as that. The burden of proof is on you. So to answer your question... yes, there is some kind of consensus on the matter.
