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[009] Stoogebie Current Version
29th Jul '12 at 07:36:06 PM
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What do you mean Mello\'s a FashionVictimVillain? His outfit is [[color:red: f]][[color:orange: a]][[color:yellow: b]][[color:green: u]][[color:cyan: l]][[color:blue: o]][[color:purple: u]][[color:pink: s]]!
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What do you mean Mello\\\'s a FashionVictimVillain? His outfit is \\\'\\\'\\\'[[color:red: f]][[color:orange: a]][[color:yellow: b]][[color:green: u]][[color:cyan: l]][[color:blue: o]][[color:purple: u]][[color:pink: s]]\\\'\\\'\\\'!
[008] Stoogebie
29th Jul '12 at 07:35:51 PM
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What do you mean Mello\'s a FashionVictimVillain? His outfit is [[color:red f]][[color:orange a]][[color:yellow b]][[color:green u]][[color:cyan l]][[color:blue o]][[color:purple u]][[color:pink s]]!
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What do you mean Mello\\\'s a FashionVictimVillain? His outfit is [[color:red: f]][[color:orange: a]][[color:yellow: b]][[color:green: u]][[color:cyan: l]][[color:blue: o]][[color:purple: u]][[color:pink: s]]!
[007] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 02:46:00 PM
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I admit it\'s possible they\'ve just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \'before performance\' to \'middle of performance\'.
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I admit it\\\'s possible they\\\'ve just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \\\'before performance\\\' to \\\'middle of performance\\\'. I certainly didn\\\'t think they\\\'d travelled there at speed-of-plot; though since many people do, the editing probably didn\\\'t emphasise the elapsed time enough.
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I originally took it that they were playing Loki\'s motif from the Wagnerian opera - which goes on for hours. If they\'re playing Schubert, it could still go on for hours; he did more than one String Quartet. If they\'re playing a selection from the classics, a classical concert would normally last two hours to two and a half hours.

I think the only reason it looks like they travelled there in two minutes is that they didn\'t emphasise the time jump enough.
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I originally took it that they were playing Loki\\\'s motif from the Wagnerian opera - which goes on for hours. If they\\\'re playing Schubert, it could still go on for hours; he did more than one String Quartet. If they\\\'re playing a selection from the classics, a classical concert would normally last two hours to two and a half hours. A quartet hired for a special party could be playing all evening.
[006] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 02:41:18 PM
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I admit they could be playing excerpts, and have just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \'before performance\' to \'middle of performance\'. And if it\'s \'\'Das Rheingold\'\', that opera is two and a half hours long.
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I admit it\\\'s possible they\\\'ve just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \\\'before performance\\\' to \\\'middle of performance\\\'.
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If they\'re playing excerpts from \'\'The Ring Cycle\'\' rather than just \'\'Das Rheingold\'\', the Quinjet has many, many hours to get there. Heck, you could fly across by commercial jet during a full run of \'\'The Ring Cycle\'\'.
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I originally took it that they were playing Loki\\\'s motif from the Wagnerian opera - which goes on for hours. If they\\\'re playing Schubert, it could still go on for hours; he did more than one String Quartet. If they\\\'re playing a selection from the classics, a classical concert would normally last two hours to two and a half hours.

I think the only reason it looks like they travelled there in two minutes is that they didn\\\'t emphasise the time jump enough.
[005] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 02:31:09 PM
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I admit they could be playing excerpts, and have just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \'before performance\' to \'middle of performance\'. And that opera is two and a half hours long.
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I admit they could be playing excerpts, and have just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \\\'before performance\\\' to \\\'middle of performance\\\'. And if it\\\'s \\\'\\\'Das Rheingold\\\'\\\', that opera is two and a half hours long.
[004] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 08:05:32 AM
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Then we have a cut to the attack on the opera house. During that attack, the music is playing, implying we\'re now in the middle of the party/performance. It\'s only after the attack has succeeded that the Quinjet arrives - to see Loki very obviously grandstanding outside the opera house. Again, that implies the whole timing is planned (by Loki) to have SHIELD arrive after Hawkeye and co have escaped with the phlebotinum.
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Then we have a cut to the attack on the opera house. During that attack, the music is playing, implying we\\\'re now in the middle of the party/performance. It\\\'s only after the attack has succeeded that the Quinjet arrives - to see Loki very obviously grandstanding outside the opera house. Again, that implies the whole timing is planned (by Loki) to have SHIELD arrive shortly after Hawkeye and co have escaped with the phlebotinum.
[003] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 07:58:35 AM
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If they\'re playing excerpts from \'\'The Ring Cycle\'\' rather than just \'\'Das Rheingold\'\', the Quinjet has many, many hours to get there. Heck, you could fly across by commercial jet during a full run of \'\'The Ring Cycle\'\'.
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If they\\\'re playing excerpts from \\\'\\\'The Ring Cycle\\\'\\\' rather than just \\\'\\\'Das Rheingold\\\'\\\', the Quinjet has many, many hours to get there. Heck, you could fly across by commercial jet during a full run of \\\'\\\'The Ring Cycle\\\'\\\'.
[002] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 07:57:28 AM
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When I watched it, I seem to recall that - on the helicarrier - they first saw a shot of Loki hanging around outside the opera house. That implies the event hasn\'t yet started. It\'s lampshaded that he wants to be seen by SHIELD. In which case, he\'d have to show his face hours beforehand, so they had time to get over to Germany.
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When I watched it, I seem to recall that - on the helicarrier - they first saw a shot of Loki hanging around outside the opera house. That implies the event hasn\\\'t yet started. It\\\'s lampshaded that he wants to be seen by SHIELD. In which case, he\\\'d \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' to show his face hours beforehand, so they had time to get over to Germany.
[001] Bluesqueak
15th Jul '12 at 07:55:29 AM
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When I watched it, I see to recall that - on the helicarrier - they first saw a shot of Loki hanging around outside the opera house. That implies the event hasn\'t yet started. It\'s lampshaded that he wants to be seen.
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When I watched it, I seem to recall that - on the helicarrier - they first saw a shot of Loki hanging around outside the opera house. That implies the event hasn\\\'t yet started. It\\\'s lampshaded that he wants to be seen by SHIELD. In which case, he\\\'d have to show his face hours beforehand, so they had time to get over to Germany.
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Then we have a cut to the attack on the opera house. During that attack, the music is playing, implying we\'re now in the middle of the party/performance. It\'s only after the attack has succeeded that the Quinjet arrives.
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Then we have a cut to the attack on the opera house. During that attack, the music is playing, implying we\\\'re now in the middle of the party/performance. It\\\'s only after the attack has succeeded that the Quinjet arrives - to see Loki very obviously grandstanding outside the opera house. Again, that implies the whole timing is planned (by Loki) to have SHIELD arrive after Hawkeye and co have escaped with the phlebotinum.
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I admit they could be playing excerpts, and have just started - but when watching in the cinema I took it as a time jump cut from \'before performance\' to \'middle of performance\'. And that opera is two and a half hours long. (If they\'re playing excerpts from \'\'The Ring Cycle\'\' rather than just \'\'Das Rheingold\'\', the Quinjet has many, many hours to get there).
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I admit they could be playing excerpts, and have just started - but when watching in the cinema I took the whole scene to include a time jump cut from \\\'before performance\\\' to \\\'middle of performance\\\'. And that opera is two and a half hours long.

If they\\\'re playing excerpts from \\\'\\\'The Ring Cycle\\\'\\\' rather than just \\\'\\\'Das Rheingold\\\'\\\', the Quinjet has many, many hours to get there. Heck, you could fly across by commercial jet during a full run of \\\'\\\'The Ring Cycle\\\'\\\'.

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