Discussion History Main / JerkassWoobie

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
* Cats are nature\\\'s jerkass woobie.
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This is a fandom reaction trope to a character who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of them are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.

If we want to save these entries somewhere, maybe splitting the TroperTales page into \\\"Personal {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" and \\\"Public {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" folders, and listing these under the public folder, would work. That way it\\\'s clearer that these are famous JW\\\'s for the tropers who wrote them, and that YMMV.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
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This is a fandom reaction trope to a character who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of them are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.

If we want to save these entries somewhere, maybe splitting the TroperTales page into \\\"Personal {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" and \\\"Public {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" folders, and listing these under the public folder, would work. That way it\\\'s clearer that these are famous JW\\\'s for the tropers who wrote them, and that YMMV.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
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This is a fandom reaction trope to a character who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of them are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.

If we want to save these entries somewhere, maybe splitting the TroperTales page into \\\"Personal {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" and \\\"Public {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" folders, and listing these under the public folder, would work. That way it\\\'s clearer that these are famous JW\\\'s for the troper who wrote them, and that YMMV.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
[[/folder]]

This is a fandom reaction trope to a character who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of them are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.

If we want to save these entries somewhere, maybe splitting the TroperTales page into \\\"Personal {{Jerkass Woobie}}s\\\" (for the existing, first-person tales) and \\\"Public {{Jerkass Woobies}}s\\\" folders, and listing these under the public folder, would work. That way it\\\'s clearer that these are famous JW\\\'s for the troper who wrote them, and that YMMV.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
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This is a fandom reaction trope to a character who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of them are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
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This is a fandom reaction trope to a character who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of whom are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne George Osborne]]. He may be a baronet in waiting, he may be rich, and he may, not least, be slashing the UK budget to a point of making anyone unlike him suffer. He may also, probably more pertinently, make your brain scream \\\"Toryboy! Toryboy!\\\" every time he opens his mouth or so much as appears on TV. Still, for what it\\\'s worth: his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude parents christened him Gideon]], he seems to have spent school \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' university, if not beyond, as a bully magnet, even among his fellow UpperClassTwit group, and, on top of what may possibly be [[HoYay an unrequited crush]] on DavidCameron, displacement by NickClegg, and a squeaky voice, he\\\'s been MindGameShip targeted by PeterMandelson. Of course, if you\\\'re a target of his slash-and-burn budget, this is unlikely to generate much warmth in his direction, unless it\\\'s the BurnTheWitch kind.
* Meriwether Lewis. Read some of his comments on American Indian women and you\\\'ll pretty much just want to kick his racist, sexist ass. However, he was at least clinically depressed, possibly bipolar, and he was also a hypochondriac and an alcoholic, and he was rewarded for his service to the republic with a high-stress job that exacerbated all of these conditions and also landed him with a bunch of political enemies out for blood. Oh, and despite being a genuine hero, when he tried to find a wife, he repeatedly struck out. And while this may have simply been due to his Jerkass side, there is also reasonable speculation that he was a repressed gay man and in unrequited love with William Clark, and even if he wasn\\\'t in love with Clark, it\\\'s pretty clear that he felt a stronger attachment toward his friend and co-commander than was noticed or reciprocated. When he finally set out for Washington to deal with various political and financial messes he\\\'d gotten entangled in, he was supposedly so broken that he deliriously believed Clark was coming to his rescue and called out for him just before shooting himself multiple times, drunkenly managing to botch his own suicide despite being a crack shot. And he was only 35! Of course, some believe this wasn\\\'t suicide, but murder by said enemies, but either way, he was definitely a first-class Woobie.
* RomanPolanski. He had to go into hiding to escape from Nazis as a child, his mother died in Auschwitz and his pregnant wife murdered by Manson family. And then he did... what everyone knows he did.
* Vince Neil from Motley Crue. If you read \\\'\\\'The Dirty\\\'\\\' you\\\'ll be struck by what an arrogant, selfish and irritating man he is -- but you heart will go out to him when you read his chapter on his daughter\\\' s death.
[[/folder]]

This is a fandom reaction trope to someone who\\\'s a jerk but lovable anyway. Real Life doesn\\\'t have a fandom, just individuals who are bound to have varying reactions to different public figures, and some of whom are bound to get offended by the inclusion of a certain figure that they don\\\'t find lovable. Calling Roman Polanski a JerkassWoobie goes way over the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement line, and in general, this trope can\\\'t be objectively applied to real life. One person\\\'s real life JerkassWoobie is someone else\\\'s plain old {{jerkass}}.