Discussion History Manga / PokemonAdventures

:* \\\'\\\'Color Coded Patrician\\\'\\\': Arren\\\'s father wears the same colors; this is logical since they are, in fact, royalty; later, Arren exchanges this for a more mundane garment. Thus, he\\\'s wearing purple for a compelling reason and not to \\\"color-code\\\" himself.
:* \\\'\\\'Deus ex machina: ... is resolved by an event never foreshadowed or set up\\\'\\\': in the book, the event is foreshadowed various times through mention of the songs; the movie does foreshadow dragons, with the lore right in the introduction; I don\\\'t recall whether there\\\'s more.
:* \\\'\\\'Does This Remind You Of Anything\\\'\\\' -- if it\\\'s enough to find some phallic object, the trope is broken
:* \\\'\\\'Dude Looks Like A Lady — Cob.\\\'\\\' -- Cob is voiced by a woman. As far as I recall, in the movie Cob is a lady, not a dude.
:* \\\'\\\'Horse of a different color: ... different forms of animal life than our world\\\'\\\' -- the movie has actual llamas, animals that are being ridden on our world. The beasts that the soldiers ride, though, seem a cross between horses and oxen (they handle like horses, but have bodyies and horns like steer), so they\\\'d fit the trope.
:* \\\'\\\'I Know Your True Name:\\\'\\\' -- well, of course the book\\\'s magic is founded on that; the trope states \\\'\\\'As a rule, objects do not have true names\\\'\\\', but in EarthSea, they do; there is a \\\"true language\\\" that names things as they are. So the book and the movie really transcend the trope.
:* \\\'\\\'Nightmare Fuel: not intended to be scary\\\'\\\' -- everything related to death - Arren\\\'s dreams of being in the other country, too - are actually intentionally scary.
:* \\\'\\\'Not Good with People: they have a special relationship with some non-human being on a level other humans can only dream of\\\'\\\' -- I don\\\'t see that in Therru. She\\\'s distrustful of people because of the way people have treated her all her life, which is shown clearly in the movie. Other than that, her behaviour towards adults seems normal for her age.
:* \\\'\\\'Oedipus Complex — Introduced then abandoned in the first 10 minutes:\\\'\\\' -- clear evidence that whoever wrote this has not understood the film. The killing of his father creates Arren\\\'s internal conflict, which fuels the movie and is resolved only at the end.
:* \\\'\\\'Our Dragons Are Different:\\\'\\\' - again, whoever claimed this for EarthSea has misunderstood why: they act as pretty traditional dragons; what sets them really apart from other fictional dragons is their origin, and it\\\'s very relevant to the plot!
:* \\\'\\\'Plucky Girl: This character exhibits a strong sense of optimism, a kind of sunny, unassailable spirit\\\'\\\' -- and labelling Therru as \\\"borken bird\\\" at the same time? Hah! (She\\\'s neither.)
:* \\\'\\\'The Quiet One: He just rarely talks, so anything he does say carries extra weight\\\'\\\' -- nope. Just not true of Arren. Watch the movie, will you?
:* \\\'\\\'The Reveal — When we learn that Arren is the one who stabbed the king\\\'\\\' -- except it is shown at the start of the film? With the king pronouncing Arren\\\'s name? How can that \\\'\\\'change the nature of the plot\\\'\\\'? It founds the plot!
:* \\\'\\\'Saharan Shipwreck — Opening scenes\\\'\\\' -- actually, the opening scene has a ship on the ocean; the shipwreck scene is at 0:07:45 - 0:08:30, when the plot starts in earnest. This is very much a trope, as the significance of the ships is never made clear (evil magic?), so they\\\'re probably just there to look <s>cool</s> omninous.
:* \\\'\\\'Scenery Porn: is the emphasis on luscious backgrounds with great detail, lovely lighting or both\\\'\\\' -- \\\"emphasis\\\"?
:* \\\'\\\'Shadow Archetype — Arren\\\'s shadow is rather confusingly characterised\\\'\\\' -- if only the editor had actually read the trope: \\\'\\\'Note that in Jungian psychology, the Shadow Archetype includes positive as well as negative things, anything suppressed or denied in the personality.\\\'\\\' That\\\'s Arren\\\'s shadow.
:* \\\'\\\'Shrinking Violet — Both Arren and Therru show aspects of this\\\'\\\' -- Therru is definitely one; Arren isn\\\'t.
:* \\\'\\\'They Wasted A Perfectly Good Plot — Various plot elements—such as slavery—are introduced but never touched upon in detail again\\\'\\\' -- actually, \\\"slavery\\\" is not a plot element, but a world detail. Complaining about this being wasted is akin to complaining that we\\\'re never shown how the riding animals are bred, or how they bury Arren\\\'s father.
:* \\\'\\\'Took A Level In Badass — Whenever Arren uses the sword\\\'\\\' -- at the beginning of the movie, Arren kills his father with a dagger. That pretty much sets up his level of badass, and his subsequent level of bravado or skill is in keeping with that.
:* \\\'\\\'Tranquil Fury\\\'\\\' -- what movie was the editor watching? It\\\'s not in there.
:* \\\'\\\'What happened to the mouse: occurs when a minor character, action, or very minor plotline is suddenly dropped\\\'\\\' -- the example cited is not minorm and not dropped.
:Is there a meta-trope about editors adding as many tropes as they can construct a however flimsy link to a movie\\\'s TVtropes page?

:Some of the Tv Tropes listed seem contrived:
:* \\\'\\\'All There In The Manual — Nonetheless, among other things, to know what Arren\\\'s shadow is\\\'\\\' -- except Arren\\\'s shadow in the movie is completely different from Ged\\\'s shadow in the book. Arren\\\'s shadow is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' explained in the book! It is somewhat mystical in the movie, but its nature is made quite clear.
:* \\\'\\\'Broken Bird: Her deep experience and emotional detachment almost always gives the impression of competence\\\'\\\' -- not Therru in the movie
:* \\\'\\\'Climbing Climax: He starts to climb. This would clearly lead to his getting trapped at the top\\\'\\\' -- note that the villain can fly
:* \\\'\\\'Color Coded Patrician\\\'\\\': Arren\\\'s father wears the same colors; this is logical since they are, in fact, royalty; later, Arren exchanges this for a more mundane garment. Thus, he\\\'s wearing purple for a compelling reason and not to \\\"color-code\\\" himself.
:* \\\'\\\'Deus ex machina: ... is resolved by an event never foreshadowed or set up\\\'\\\': in the book, the event is foreshadowed various times through mention of the songs; the movie does foreshadow dragons, with the lore right in the introduction; I don\\\'t recall whether there\\\'s more.
:* \\\'\\\'Does This Remind You Of Anything\\\'\\\' -- if it\\\'s enough to find some phallic object, the trope is broken
:* \\\'\\\'Dude Looks Like A Lady — Cob.\\\'\\\' -- Cob is voiced by a woman. As far as I recall, in the movie Cob is a lady, not a dude.
:* \\\'\\\'Horse of a different color: ... different forms of animal life than our world\\\'\\\' -- the movie has actual llamas, animals that are being ridden on our world. The beasts that the soldiers ride, though, seem a cross between horses and oxen (they handle like horses, but have bodyies and horns like steer), so they\\\'d fit the trope.
:* \\\'\\\'I Know Your True Name:\\\'\\\' -- well, of course the book\\\'s magic is founded on that; the trope states \\\'\\\'As a rule, objects do not have true names\\\'\\\', but in EarthSea, they do; there is a \\\"true language\\\" that names things as they are. So the book and the movie really transcend the trope.
:* \\\'\\\'Nightmare Fuel: not intended to be scary\\\'\\\' -- everything related to death - Arren\\\'s dreams of being in the other country, too - are actually intentionally scary.
:* \\\'\\\'Not Good with People: they have a special relationship with some non-human being on a level other humans can only dream of\\\'\\\' -- I don\\\'t see that in Therru. She\\\'s distrustful of people because of the way people have treated her all her life, which is shown clearly in the movie. Other than that, her behaviour towards adults seems normal for her age.
:* \\\'\\\'Oedipus Complex — Introduced then abandoned in the first 10 minutes:\\\'\\\' -- clear evidence that whoever wrote this has not understood the film. The killing of his father creates Arren\\\'s internal conflict, which fuels the movie and is resolved only at the end.
:* \\\'\\\'Our Dragons Are Different:\\\'\\\' - again, whoever claimed this for EarthSea has misunderstood why: they act as pretty traditional dragons; what sets them really apart from other fictional dragons is their origin, and it\\\'s very relevant to the plot!
:* \\\'\\\'Plucky Girl: This character exhibits a strong sense of optimism, a kind of sunny, unassailable spirit\\\'\\\' -- and labelling Therru as \\\"borken bird\\\" at the same time? Hah! (She\\\'s neither.)
:* \\\'\\\'The Quiet One: He just rarely talks, so anything he does say carries extra weight\\\'\\\' -- nope. Just not true of Arren. Watch the movie, will you?
:* \\\'\\\'The Reveal — When we learn that Arren is the one who stabbed the king\\\'\\\' -- except it is shown at the start of the film? With the king pronouncing Arren\\\'s name? How can that \\\'\\\'change the nature of the plot\\\'\\\'? It founds the plot!
:* \\\'\\\'Saharan Shipwreck — Opening scenes\\\'\\\' -- actually, the opening scene has a ship on the ocean; the shipwreck scene is at 0:07:45 - 0:08:30, when the plot starts in earnest. This is very much a trope, as the significance of the ships is never made clear (evil magic?), so they\\\'re probably just there to look <s>cool</s> omninous.
:* \\\'\\\'Scenery Porn: is the emphasis on luscious backgrounds with great detail, lovely lighting or both\\\'\\\' -- \\\"emphasis\\\"?
:* \\\'\\\'Shadow Archetype — Arren\\\'s shadow is rather confusingly characterised\\\'\\\' -- if only the editor had actually read the trope: \\\'\\\'Note that in Jungian psychology, the Shadow Archetype includes positive as well as negative things, anything suppressed or denied in the personality.\\\'\\\' That\\\'s Arren\\\'s shadow.
:* \\\'\\\'Shrinking Violet — Both Arren and Therru show aspects of this\\\'\\\' -- Therru is definitely one; Arren isn\\\'t.
:* \\\'\\\'They Wasted A Perfectly Good Plot — Various plot elements—such as slavery—are introduced but never touched upon in detail again\\\'\\\' -- actually, \\\"slavery\\\" is not a plot element, but a world detail. Complaining about this being wasted is akin to complaining that we\\\'re never shown how the riding animals are bred, or how they bury Arren\\\'s father.
:* \\\'\\\'Took A Level In Badass — Whenever Arren uses the sword\\\'\\\' -- at the beginning of the movie, Arren kills his father with a dagger. That pretty much sets up his level of badass, and his subsequent level of bravado or skill is in keeping with that.
:* \\\'\\\'Tranquil Fury\\\'\\\' -- what movie was the editor watching? It\\\'s not in there.
:* \\\'\\\'What happened to the mouse: occurs when a minor character, action, or very minor plotline is suddenly dropped\\\'\\\' -- the example cited is not minorm and not dropped.
:Is there a meta-trope about editors adding as many troped and they can contruct a however flimsy link to a movie\\\'s TVtropes page?