Discussion History BrokenBase / DeathBattle

With due respect, but I disagree. I feel \"people might have political motivations for having this opinion\" is an argument that can easily work two ways, because I\'ve seen more than a handful reviewers mainly go on and on about the positive effects of the mainly-black cast rather than the actual film. Given the fanbases honestly toxic reactions to criticisms of the film, it\'s honestly easy to see how some people may be afraid to be critical of the movie out of fear of being designated racist. And that\'s not something that should be held against the quality of this movie, because I also feel it is a good movie with strong performances that deserves praise, but by that same token people who feel lesser about it shouldn\'t be discounted because of why they \'\'might\'\' have that opinion. YMMV doesn\'t just stand for the majority opinion, as long as a less common opinion is \'\'noted\'\' to be just that, a minority. See Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2\'s EvenBetterSequel entry, for instance. Secondly, Box Office succes is in NO measure whatsoever a \'\'definitive\'\' reflection of movie quality. There are plenty of trashy but flashy movies with five-figure earnings and plenty of masterpieces that never see the light of day, so to speak.

Lastly, I feel CriticalDissonance does deserve a mentoin, as when critics give it a higher rating than many masterpieces in-and-out of the genre but audiences give it an overall \"averagely good\" rating (97 percent vs 79), there is a dissonance. Sure it\'s \"only\" 18 percent, but there is a difference between \"virtually universal praise\" and \" a solid score\".
Thats just my two cents, tbh.

With due respect, but I disagree. I feel \"people might have political motivations for having this opinion\" is an argument that can easily work two ways, because I\'ve seen more than a handful reviewers mainly go on and on about the positive effects of the mainly-black cast rather than the actual film. Given the fanbases honestly toxic reactions to criticisms of the film, it\'s honestly easy to see how some people may be afraid to be critical of the movie out of fear of being designated racist. And that\'s not something that should be held against the quality of this movie, because I also feel it is a good movie with strong performances that deserves praise, but by that same token people who feel lesser about it shouldn\'t be discounted because of why they \'\'might\'\' have that opinion. YMMV doesn\'t just stand for the majority opinion, as long as a less common opinion is \'\'noted\'\' to be just that, a minority. See Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2\'s EvenBetterSequel entry, for instance. Secondly, Box Office succes is in NO measure whatsoever a \'\'definitive\'\' reflection of movie quality. There are plenty of trashy but flashy movies with five-figure earnings and plenty of masterpieces that never see the light of day, so to speak.

Lastly, I feel CriticalDissonance does deserve a mentoin, as when critics give it a higher rating than many masterpieces in-and-out of the genre but audiences give it an overall \"averagely good\" rating (97 percent vs 79), there is a dissonance. Sure it\'s \"only\" 18 percent, but there is a difference between \"virtually universal praise\" and \" a solid score\".

With due respect, but I disagree. I feel \"people might have political motivations for having this opinion\" is an argument that can easily work two ways, because I\'ve seen more than a handful reviewers mainly go on and on about the positive effects of the mainly-black cast rather than the actual film. Given the fanbases honestly toxic reactions to criticisms of the film, it\'s honestly easy to see how some people may be afraid to be critical of the movie out of fear of being designated racist. And that\'s not something that should be held against the quality of this movie, because I also feel it is a good movie with strong performances that deserves praise, but by that same token people who feel lesser about it shouldn\'t be discounted because of why they \'\'might\'\' have that opinion. YMMV doesn\'t just stand for the majority opinion. Secondly, Box Office succes is in NO measure whatsoever a \'\'definitive\'\' reflection of movie quality. There are plenty of trashy but flashy movies with five-figure earnings and plenty of masterpieces that never see the light of day, so to speak.

Lastly, I feel CriticalDissonance does deserve a mentoin, as when critics give it a higher rating than many masterpieces in-and-out of the genre but audiences give it an overall \"averagely good\" rating (97 percent vs 79), there is a dissonance. Sure it\'s \"only\" 18 percent, but there is a difference between \"virtually universal praise\" and \" a solid score\".