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* Lobo vs Ghost Rider irritated a number of people for simply using Lobo instead of a more demonic character like ComicBook/{{Etrigan}}, accusing Death Battle of giving Marvel an easy win by putting Lobo against an OutsideContextProblem for him, to end DC's winning streak, especially after it turned the hosts were not expecting [[spoiler: Green Lantern to win his Death Battle]].

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* Lobo vs Ghost Rider irritated a number of people for simply using Lobo instead of a more demonic character like ComicBook/{{Etrigan}}, accusing Death Battle of giving Marvel an easy win by putting Lobo against an OutsideContextProblem for him, to end DC's winning streak, especially after it turned the hosts were not expecting [[spoiler: Green Lantern to win his Death Battle]].


* Thor vs. Wonder Woman got hit with this following [[spoiler:Wonder Woman's victory]]. While Death Battle has acknowledged that there are incarnations of Thor who are borderline omnipotent[[note]]Rune King Thor and Odinforce Thor[[/note]] but couldn't use. There are many angry [[spoiler:Thor fans who argue that Death Battle deliberately ignored ''CANON'' feats of Thor's strength that made him far stronger than Wonder Woman]].[[note]]''Thor Annual #9'': Where he melodramaitcally claimed to be crushed under the weight of ''20 planets''(even low-balled to 20 Pluto's this feat would round out to about 262 Quintillion tons) and was not only able to move his arms, but shoot a blast at the being firing a spell at him. ''Thor: God of Thunder #9'': Thor held a moon together and glued it back up with his lightning.[[/note]] [[spoiler:However, others argue that the results would still be the same as both combatants are used to fighting opponents physically stronger than them in their respective series anyway and that strength shouldn't be the nigh-universal deciding factor in a fight. This didnít get better after Ultron vs. Sigma, which showed Thor scales to Ultron as having feats on the level of stars, but this also leads to arguments of Wonder Woman having similar strength feats left out ]][[labelnote:For Example]] Pulling Martian Manhunter out of a black hole, destroying a weapon that could contain the Godwave, and breaking Green Lanternís constructs, which can condense a star.[[/labelnote]][[spoiler: which leads into another can of worms as to how much the hosts show, which may be best left elsewhere.]]

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* Thor vs. Wonder Woman got hit with this following [[spoiler:Wonder Woman's victory]]. While Death Battle has acknowledged that there are incarnations of Thor who are borderline omnipotent[[note]]Rune King Thor and Odinforce Thor[[/note]] but couldn't use. There are many angry [[spoiler:Thor fans who argue that Death Battle deliberately ignored ''CANON'' canon feats of Thor's strength that made him far stronger than Wonder Woman]].[[note]]''Thor Annual #9'': Where he melodramaitcally claimed to be crushed under the weight of ''20 planets''(even low-balled to 20 Pluto's this feat would round out to about 262 Quintillion tons) and was not only able to move his arms, but shoot a blast at the being firing a the spell at him. ''Thor: God of Thunder #9'': Thor held a moon together and glued it back up with his lightning.[[/note]] [[spoiler:However, others argue that the results would still be the same as both combatants are used to fighting opponents physically stronger than them in their respective series anyway and that strength shouldn't be the nigh-universal deciding factor in a fight. This didnít get better after Ultron vs. Sigma, which showed Thor scales to Ultron as having feats on the level of stars, but this also leads to arguments of Wonder Woman having similar strength feats left out ]][[labelnote:For Example]] Pulling Martian Manhunter out of a black hole, destroying a weapon that could contain the Godwave, and breaking Green Lanternís constructs, which can condense a star.[[/labelnote]][[spoiler: which leads into another can of worms as to how much the hosts show, which may be best left elsewhere.]]


* Thor vs. Wonder Woman got hit with this following [[spoiler:Wonder Woman's victory]]. While Death Battle has acknowledged that there are incarnations of Thor who are borderline omnipotent[[note]]Rune King Thor and Odinforce Thor[[/note]] but couldn't use. There are many angry [[spoiler:Thor fans who argue that Death Battle deliberately ignored ''CANON'' feats of Thor's strength that made him far stronger than Wonder Woman]].[[note]]''Thor Annual #9'': Where he melodramaitcally claimed to be crushed under the weight of ''20 planets''(even low-balled to 20 Pluto's this feat would round out to about 262 Quintillion tons) and was not only able to move his arms, but shoot a blast at the being firing a spell at him. ''Thor: God of Thunder #9'': Thor held a moon together and glued it back up with his lightning.[[/note]] [[spoiler:However, others argue that the results would still be the same as both combatants are used to fighting opponents physically stronger than them in their respective series anyway and that strength shouldn't be the nigh-universal deciding factor in a fight. This didnít get better after Ultron vs. Sigma, which showed Thor scales to Ultron as having feats on the level of stars, but this also leads to arguments of Wonder Woman having similar strength feats left out [[labelnote:For Example]] Pulling Martian Manhunter out of a black hole, destroying a weapon that could contain the Godwave, and breaking Green Lanternís constructs, which can condense a star.[[/labelnote]] which leads into another can of worms as to how much the hosts show, which may be best left elsewhere.]]

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* Thor vs. Wonder Woman got hit with this following [[spoiler:Wonder Woman's victory]]. While Death Battle has acknowledged that there are incarnations of Thor who are borderline omnipotent[[note]]Rune King Thor and Odinforce Thor[[/note]] but couldn't use. There are many angry [[spoiler:Thor fans who argue that Death Battle deliberately ignored ''CANON'' feats of Thor's strength that made him far stronger than Wonder Woman]].[[note]]''Thor Annual #9'': Where he melodramaitcally claimed to be crushed under the weight of ''20 planets''(even low-balled to 20 Pluto's this feat would round out to about 262 Quintillion tons) and was not only able to move his arms, but shoot a blast at the being firing a spell at him. ''Thor: God of Thunder #9'': Thor held a moon together and glued it back up with his lightning.[[/note]] [[spoiler:However, others argue that the results would still be the same as both combatants are used to fighting opponents physically stronger than them in their respective series anyway and that strength shouldn't be the nigh-universal deciding factor in a fight. This didnít get better after Ultron vs. Sigma, which showed Thor scales to Ultron as having feats on the level of stars, but this also leads to arguments of Wonder Woman having similar strength feats left out [[labelnote:For ]][[labelnote:For Example]] Pulling Martian Manhunter out of a black hole, destroying a weapon that could contain the Godwave, and breaking Green Lanternís constructs, which can condense a star.[[/labelnote]] [[/labelnote]][[spoiler: which leads into another can of worms as to how much the hosts show, which may be best left elsewhere.]]


** This flared up again after Weiss vs Mitsuru had [[spoiler:Weiss lose]], especially since in various vs Communities, Mitsuru is seen as easily far weaker then Tifa ever was. Others point out that not only is Weiss often shown to be weaker than Yang, but Mitsuri has a skill set that in many ways is a perfect counter to Weiss's and doesn't reflect on either Yang or Tifa's own. Either way, calls for a proper rematch have been made.

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* Wolverine vs. Raiden comment section is riddled with arguments about the victor. Most accepted the results, others are arguing how since the series are two different universes, Raiden's sword shouldn't follow the same rules as Marvel's and the Vibrating Murasama shouldn't be able to cut through adamantium, while others claim it was just terrible luck that Wolverine went against someone with the exact weapon needed to take him down. Others have argued that Wolverine has regenerated from a drop of blood, so he should still take it, while many are quick to say it was by luck that Wolverine's blood landed on a magic crystal that allowed him to regenerate.


** This flared up again after Weiss vs Mitsuru had [[spoiler:Weiss lose]], especially since in various vs Communities, Mitsuru is seen as easily far weaker then Tifa ever was. Calls for a proper rematch have been made.

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** This flared up again after Weiss vs Mitsuru had [[spoiler:Weiss lose]], especially since in various vs Communities, Mitsuru is seen as easily far weaker then Tifa ever was. Calls Others point out that not only is Weiss often shown to be weaker than Yang, but Mitsuri has a skill set that in many ways is a perfect counter to Weiss's and doesn't reflect on either Yang or Tifa's own. Either way, calls for a proper rematch have been made.


** This flared up again after Weiss vs Mitsuru had [[spoiler: Weiss lose]], especially since in various vs Communities, Mitsuru is seen as easily far weaker then Tifa ever was. Calls for a proper rematch have been made.

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** This flared up again after Weiss vs Mitsuru had [[spoiler: Weiss [[spoiler:Weiss lose]], especially since in various vs Communities, Mitsuru is seen as easily far weaker then Tifa ever was. Calls for a proper rematch have been made.



* The use of power-scaling tends to cause arguments since it leads to later research contradicting their prior research, such as Thor later having star-buster feats when he was considered a planet-buster earlier; for the sake of this example's context, feats such as those would have actually meant that Thor would have won his fight against Wonder Woman given that the new values would have trumped anything his opponent had, and those only scratch the tip of the iceberg; never mind occasions like Sonic losing to Mario in their rematch despite winning their original battle. There's also a more blatant example with their usage of the three ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' characters: Sephiroth's analysis and subsequent victory over Vergil has cast a massive shadow of doubt over Cloud and Tifa's prior losses to Link and Yang, respectively. Not only were those episodes' results highly contentious due to issues with research and - in the latter episode's case - bias towards Rooster Teeth, the feats displaying his enormous feats of strength and speed are far greater than most showings seen in either ''Zelda'' or ''RWBY'' only adds fuel to the fire in hindsight. Some feel that their research is simply improving over-time, while others question how much the researchers actually know, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement which is best left unsaid]].

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* The use of power-scaling tends to cause arguments since it leads to later research contradicting their prior research, such as Thor later having star-buster feats when he was considered a planet-buster earlier; for the sake of this example's context, feats such as those would have actually meant that Thor would have won his fight against Wonder Woman given that the new values would have trumped anything his opponent had, and those only scratch the tip of the iceberg; never mind occasions like Sonic losing to Mario in their rematch despite winning their original battle. There's also a more blatant example with their usage of the three ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' characters: Sephiroth's analysis and subsequent victory over Vergil has cast a massive shadow of doubt over Cloud and Tifa's prior losses to Link and Yang, respectively. Not only were those episodes' results highly contentious due to issues with research and - in the latter episode's case - having a supposed bias towards in favor of Rooster Teeth, the feats displaying his enormous feats of strength and speed are far greater than most showings seen in either ''Zelda'' or ''RWBY'' only adds fuel to the fire in hindsight. Some feel that their research is simply improving over-time, while others question how much the researchers actually know, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement which is best left unsaid]].

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** This flared up again after Weiss vs Mitsuru had [[spoiler: Weiss lose]], especially since in various vs Communities, Mitsuru is seen as easily far weaker then Tifa ever was. Calls for a proper rematch have been made.


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* The result of Ryu vs. Jin was rather contentious to many, as [[spoiler: Ryu's victory]] was mostly based on powerscaling them to other characters, [[spoiler: with Ryu being compared to Akuma. Some argue that Ryu's bouts against Akuma and surviving attacks such as the island destruction in VideoGame/StreetFighterII, along with his use of the Satsui no Hadou would justify the scaling, others argue that Akuma is shown to frequently hold back against opponents he doesn't want to kill, and Ryu is far less refined in the Satsui no Hadou than Akuma. Another aspect of the argument is powerscaling against independent feats for the combatants themselves, as Ryu would be superior in the former, and Jin in the latter. There are arguments to be made for both, given that it's a divide between feats and challenges possibly not faced in battle and actions with the fighters alone that may not show enough of what they're capable of.]]

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* The result of Ryu vs. Jin was rather contentious to many, as [[spoiler: Ryu's [[spoiler:Ryu's victory]] was mostly based on powerscaling power-scaling them to other characters, [[spoiler: with [[spoiler:with Ryu being compared to Akuma. Some argue that Ryu's bouts against Akuma and surviving attacks such as the island destruction in VideoGame/StreetFighterII, ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'', along with his use of the Satsui no Hadou would justify the scaling, others argue that Akuma is shown to frequently hold back against opponents he doesn't want to kill, and Ryu is far less refined in the Satsui no Hadou than Akuma. Another aspect of the argument is powerscaling against independent feats for the combatants themselves, as Ryu would be superior in the former, and Jin in the latter. There are arguments to be made for both, given that it's a divide between feats and challenges possibly not faced in battle and actions with the fighters alone that may not show enough of what they're capable of.]]



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* The 'Test Your Might' mini-games in Mortal Kombat being treated as canon feats has been met with a lot of derision by viewers of the show, as they can be completed by any character in the game, meaning that by Death Battle's standards, nearly all Mortal Kombat characters are exactly as strong as each other, even if they have no feats of strength to support this, or show contradictory levels of maximum strength elsewhere. The mini-games also depend entirely on player input, something Death Battle have claimed not to take into account when using character from Role-Playing Games. Especially grating as the strength shown in the 'Test Your Might' mini-games are [[spoiler:presented as main reasons that Sub-Zero and Sonya Blade both won their Death Battles]]. Nevertheless, others claim that the mini-games are an official part of the Mortal Kombat games, and unless stated otherwise, should be included as canon abilities. Also, the Screwattack team says that to take in count the 'Test Your Might', there need to be another feats to support these. This is maybe the reason the maximum feats of Sonya and Sub-Zero are differents (Sonya's maximum is steel and Sub-Zero's is titanium, which is tougher).
* Thanks to polarizing ''Starscream vs. Rainbow Dash'' and just the nature of the series as a whole outside of its fanbase, any matchup that has a [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic My Little Pony]] character involved will cause debates for that alone.

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* The 'Test Your Might' mini-games in Mortal Kombat being treated as canon feats has been met with a lot of derision by viewers of the show, as they can be completed by any character in the game, meaning that by Death Battle's standards, nearly all Mortal Kombat characters are exactly as strong as each other, even if they have no feats of strength to support this, or show contradictory levels of maximum strength elsewhere. The mini-games also depend entirely on player input, something Death Battle have claimed not to take into account when using character from Role-Playing Games. Especially grating as the strength shown in the 'Test Your Might' mini-games are [[spoiler:presented as main reasons that Sub-Zero and Sonya Blade both won their Death Battles]]. Nevertheless, others claim that the mini-games are an official part of the Mortal Kombat games, and unless stated otherwise, should be included as canon abilities. Also, the Screwattack team says that to take in count the 'Test Your Might', there need to be another feats to support these. This is maybe the reason the maximum feats of Sonya and Sub-Zero are differents different (Sonya's maximum is steel and Sub-Zero's is titanium, which is tougher).
* Thanks to polarizing ''Starscream vs. Rainbow Dash'' and just the nature of the series as a whole outside of its fanbase, any matchup match-up that has a [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic My Little Pony]] character involved will cause debates for that alone.

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* The removal of the opening "Fight!" line from the beginning of matches from season 6 onwards is still controversial.

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* The result of Ryu vs. Jin was rather contentious to many, as [[spoiler: Ryu's victory]] was mostly based on powerscaling them to other characters, [[spoiler: with Ryu being compared to Akuma. Some argue that Ryu's bouts against Akuma and surviving attacks such as the island destruction in VideoGame/StreetFighterII, along with his use of the Satsui no Hadou would justify the scaling, others argue that Akuma is shown to frequently hold back against opponents he doesn't want to kill, and Ryu is far less refined in the Satsui no Hadou than Akuma. Another aspect of the argument is powerscaling against independent feats for the combatants themselves, as Ryu would be superior in the former, and Jin in the latter. There are arguments to be made for both, given that it's a divide between feats and challenges possibly not faced in battle and actions with the fighters alone that may not show enough of what they're capable of.]]


* The Doomguy vs. Master Chief has split people into three camps: Those who agree with the result, those who think the doom guy was nerfed either because of the [[{{Spectacle}} animation]] or the fact that [[Videogame/Doom2016 Doom Slayer]] wasn't included (despite the fact that the episode released long before the reboots of Videogame/{{Doom}} were created) and those who want a rematch with updated games. All three generally agree that the current thumbnail being updated to show The Doom Slayer is a case of WolverinePublicity at best and false marketing at worst.

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* The Doomguy vs. Master Chief has split people into three camps: Those who agree with the result, those who think the doom guy was nerfed either because of the [[{{Spectacle}} animation]] or the fact that [[Videogame/Doom2016 Doom Slayer]] wasn't included (despite the fact that the episode released long before the reboots of Videogame/{{Doom}} were created) and those who want a rematch with the updated games. All three generally agree that the current thumbnail being updated to show The Doom Slayer is a case of WolverinePublicity at best and false marketing at worst.



* [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Ragna the Bloodedge]] vs. [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Sol Badguy]]. While some accept the result, others are pointing out that Wiz and Boomstick got a lot of information wrong (particularly on the Blazblue side) and that the match should have ended the other way around. On the other hand, there are just as many people on a middle ground agreeing that despite the many Blazblue research errors, almost none of them actually made Ragna any weaker.
** There are also those who argue that they underestimated Ragna (specifically the Black Beast) and overestimated Sol. People who read the manga where the "Mt. Everest sized Gear" feat came from note that its actual weight was stated by Ky's operator to be approximately..."Four tons". On top of that, the Gear that actually was as large, if not larger than Mt. Everest was destroyed by a completely unrelated character. In addition, The Black Beast has shrugged off mountain destroying blasts in [=BlazBlue=] lore. This leads to some arguing that the fight should have ended Ragna's favor and complain that Wiz and Boomstick largely glossed over the Beast's abilities, while others argue that the results would probably still be the same due to Sol's greater experience, being at least comparable to the Black Beast in raw power, and having natural magic (which is canonically one of the Beast's true weaknesses). A third camp agrees with the end result, but acknowledges that the Beast was heavily underestimate and that Sol more than likely couldn't one-shot it.

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* [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Ragna the Bloodedge]] vs. [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Sol Badguy]]. While some accept the result, others are pointing out that Wiz and Boomstick got a lot of information wrong (particularly on the Blazblue ''[=BlazBlue=]'' side) and that the match should have ended the other way around. On the other hand, there are just as many people on a middle ground agreeing that despite the many Blazblue ''[=BlazBlue=]'' research errors, almost none of them actually made Ragna any weaker.
** There are also those who argue that they underestimated Ragna (specifically the Black Beast) and overestimated Sol. People who read the manga where the "Mt. Everest sized Gear" feat came from note that its actual weight was stated by Ky's operator to be approximately... "Four tons". On top of that, the Gear that actually was as large, if not larger than Mt. Everest was destroyed by a completely unrelated character. In addition, The Black Beast has shrugged off mountain destroying blasts in [=BlazBlue=] ''[=BlazBlue=]'' lore. This leads to some arguing that the fight should have ended Ragna's favor and complain that Wiz and Boomstick largely glossed over the Beast's abilities, while others argue that the results would probably still be the same due to Sol's greater experience, being at least comparable to the Black Beast in raw power, experience and having natural magic (which is canonically one of the Beast's true weaknesses). A third camp agrees with the end result, but acknowledges agree that the Beast was heavily underestimate and that Sol more than likely couldn't one-shot it.



** Another part of this is that as of this posting, Ragna's story is now complete thanks to ''Central Fiction''. Some argue that there should be a rematch that applies the new information, while others think that there wouldn't be a point, especially considering that Sol's own story seems to have no end in sight.

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** Another part of this is that as of this posting, Ragna's story is now complete thanks to ''Central Fiction''. Some argue that there should be a rematch that applies the new information, while others think that there wouldn't be a point, especially considering that Sol's own story is still ongoing and seems to have no end in sight.

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* The Doomguy vs. Master Chief has split people into three camps: Those who agree with the result, those who think the doom guy was nerfed either because of the [[{{Spectacle}} animation]] or the fact that [[Videogame/Doom2016 Doom Slayer]] wasn't included (despite the fact that the episode released long before the reboots of Videogame/{{Doom}} were created) and those who want a rematch with updated games. All three generally agree that the current thumbnail being updated to show The Doom Slayer is a case of WolverinePublicity at best and false marketing at worst.


** Itís either a loving sendoff to [[Creator/MontyOum Monty]] and a celebration of both franchises being brought back into the light after being away for a long while, or itís a gimmicky publicity stunt only meant to promote the third volume of RWBY and an insult to Montyís swansong. At its worst fans see it as a lose-lose situation no matter the outcome, either Yang wins and it's seen as a shameless lack of integrity for kissing up to Rooster Teeth, or Tifa wins and it's seen as a lack of respect for the late Monty Oum and his final creative work.

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** Itís either a loving sendoff to [[Creator/MontyOum Monty]] and a celebration of both franchises being brought back into the light after being away for a long while, or itís a gimmicky publicity stunt only meant to promote the third volume of RWBY ''RWBY'' and an insult to Montyís swansong. At its worst fans see it as a lose-lose situation no matter the outcome, either Yang wins and it's seen as a shameless lack of integrity for kissing up to Rooster Teeth, or Tifa wins and it's seen as a lack of respect for the late Monty Oum and his final creative work.



** Calling Pokemon slaves was either seen as completely accurate, or was very poorly received. The fact the Pokemon franchise contains evidence for both sides doesn't help ''at all''.

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** Calling Pokemon slaves was either seen as completely accurate, or was very poorly received. The fact the Pokemon ''Pokemon'' franchise contains evidence for both sides doesn't help ''at all''.



** On Dragon Ball's side, fans were angry over the treatment of Goku, saying that his power and feats weren't accurately represented and that ''Death Battle'' sold him short. The fact that the second round came out during the very beginning of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' gave birth to the argument that Goku was going to become even more powerful anyway, necessitating a third round. Further angering fans was ''Death Battle's'' hammering in of the fact that no matter how many new forms Goku got or how many limits he broke, he would never win against Superman, which these fans felt to be markedly untrue. These fans pointed out that several characters in the DC canon have proven to be stronger than Supes ([[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Doomsday]], {{ComicBook/Shazam}}, {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}, etc.) and that [[WordOfGod the Ultimate Guide to Superman]] stated that Superman had, has and will have limits and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5czwMg8ck many of Superman's supposed feats were either being taken out of context or were fake.]]
** On Superman's side, fans pointed out that ''Death Battle's'' interpretation of Superman is that he has no limits and that someone who is limitless can easily take out somebody with limits, no matter how strong they are. To prove this point, they have pointed out the feats Superman has pulled that prove he is limitless (lifting a book with infinite pages, sneezing away a solar system, etc.) Comic fans have added that all interpretations of those feats made by anime fans solely to debunk ''Death Battle'' don't understand the text, and that only reasonable reading of those feats would necessitate them as working exactly like ''Death Battle'' gave for them to make any sense in what the authors were trying to say.

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** On Dragon Ball's ''Dragon Ball'''s side, fans were angry over the treatment of Goku, saying that his power and feats weren't accurately represented and that ''Death Battle'' sold him short. The fact that the second round came out during the very beginning of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' gave birth to the argument that Goku was going to become even more powerful anyway, necessitating a third round. Further angering fans was ''Death Battle's'' hammering in of the fact that no matter how many new forms Goku got or how many limits he broke, he would never win against Superman, which these fans felt to be markedly untrue. These fans pointed out that several characters in the DC canon have proven to be stronger than Supes ([[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Doomsday]], {{ComicBook/Shazam}}, {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}, etc.) and that [[WordOfGod the Ultimate Guide to Superman]] stated that Superman had, has and will have limits and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5czwMg8ck many of Superman's supposed feats were either being taken out of context or were fake.]]
** On Superman's ''Superman'''s side, fans pointed out that ''Death Battle's'' interpretation of Superman is that he has no limits and that someone who is limitless can easily take out somebody with limits, no matter how strong they are. To prove this point, they have pointed out the feats Superman has pulled that prove he is limitless (lifting a book with infinite pages, sneezing away a solar system, etc.) Comic fans have added that all interpretations of those feats made by anime fans solely to debunk ''Death Battle'' don't understand the text, and that only reasonable reading of those feats would necessitate them as working exactly like ''Death Battle'' gave for them to make any sense in what the authors were trying to say.



* Naruto vs. Ichigo, though not so much the match-up itself, but whether the match-up is the best for either combatant. Some say that Naruto should fight the more-requested Luffy, due to the popularity of both Naruto and One Piece, while others say that since both Bleach and Naruto have ended, both characters are at their full potential, and thus any flukes can be avoided since no feats will contradict them after releasing the fight.

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* Naruto vs. Ichigo, though not so much the match-up itself, but whether the match-up is the best for either combatant. Some say that Naruto should fight the more-requested Luffy, due to the popularity of both Naruto ''Naruto'' and One Piece, ''One Piece'', while others say that since both Bleach ''Bleach'' and Naruto ''Naruto'' have ended, both characters are at their full potential, and thus any flukes can be avoided since no feats will contradict them after releasing the fight.

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