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Saying that all of an artist's songs are awesoms is a General Example (Examples Are Not General).
Saying that some songs are awesome is a ZCE unless you also explain why each of these songs are awesome.
Ideally, there should be one bullet point per song, each with at least one sentence praising specific aspects of the song (not general positive descriptors like "awesome").
Is it a general example, though? After all, it refers to a group of specific songs. (Not sure if they're 65, but you get the point.) Like... let's say that the words "all of their songs" were replaced with the actual titles of all their songs. That's better formatting, but it's no less general, since it mentions the exact same 65 songs. (At least I think it's 65, but I might be wrong.) Being specific isn't about whether you name things, it's about referring to specific things as opposed to things in general.
For instance, saying "All the Harry Potter books use this trope" is exactly as specific as saying "HPATPS, HPATTCOS, HPATPOA, HPATGOF, HPATOOP, HPATHBP and HPATDH all use this trope".
Edited by JamesJamesI think if the songs are listed, that at least sidesteps the rule against general examples, but Zuxtron is correct in saying that it doesn't address the Zero-Context Example problem; a list of titles is not context. Not only should each song have its own bullet (or, in limited cases, they can be grouped if they have some sort of central common link), but each song needs a separate explanation for why it's awesome, and, as Zuxtron also notes, that doesn't just mean saying "[Song X] is awesome"; is it a catchy melody, poetic lyrics, virtuosic performances, clever orchestration or arranging, packing an emotional wallop, etc. Something that tells the reader why they should track down a copy post haste, and gives them some idea of what they'll hear when they do.
The Awesome Music entry for Visage simply said that every song of theirs are awesome. Then, a troper decided to make it less of a Zero Context Example by adding specific song names. Except... That's not more context, right? Both examples are referring to a specific set of songs, and neither version actually says anything about them.
Edited by JamesJames