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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#92251: Nov 25th 2022 at 4:50:01 PM

I may consider buying some of the DLC packs to help me with my playthrough of Conquest, since optional challenge fights are no longer a thing and I (presumably) need to budget my battles wisely to maximize my relationships as soon as possible. I hear Boo Camp is the one exception that allows EXP grinding for a Conquest playthrough, so I might go for that (and possibly Ghostly Gold for the gold). What story chapter do these DLC maps scale to in terms of difficulty and enemy strength? Are there any other DLC packs that could prove to be essential?

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
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#92252: Nov 25th 2022 at 4:54:35 PM

Weren't the DLC maps discontinued?

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#92253: Nov 25th 2022 at 4:58:30 PM

Funds can only be added to the Wii U and 3DS Eshops via a connected account by adding funds from the Nintendo Switch, and the DLC will be locked from purchase as a whole in March 2023, at least from what I've heard.

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#92254: Nov 25th 2022 at 7:08:43 PM

Didn't really use the DLC here, but I'd guess that the scaling up would be at the same time as the Paralogues do. That said, Conquest, wasn't really made with grinding in mind.

And speaking of Conquest, picking up the Lunatic PMU again. It's Great Wall time.

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#92255: Nov 25th 2022 at 7:33:57 PM

I've gotten up to Chapter 11 so far and doing adequately playing by Conquest rules, but it would be nice to have a plan B in case I run out of missions to get the second generation and possibly some weapon EXP during the main story.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#92256: Nov 25th 2022 at 8:54:57 PM

We have more info on Sigurds Emblem on Twitter. He works best with Calvary, Armored, and Healer units

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#92257: Nov 25th 2022 at 8:55:56 PM

Don't know about you all, but I'm using M Byleth for Alear.

Gotta commit to that CF theme.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#92258: Nov 25th 2022 at 8:58:25 PM

…Byleth buffs the field by giving numerous relics to people.

Red Alear will likely not even be playable.

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#92259: Nov 25th 2022 at 9:01:16 PM

Yes but consider he doesn't have that awful shade of green hair. Just his OG hair.

Best reason to do CF and get Byleth's hair back to looking good. evil grin

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#92260: Nov 25th 2022 at 9:04:20 PM

I can get behind hair color being a deciding factor here.

In any case I always see M!Byleth as being more associated with Verdant Wind. Wonder if the Emblems can "Switch forms" as it where, otherwise Engage and Three Hopes will be at odds with one another.

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#92261: Nov 25th 2022 at 9:11:09 PM

M Byleth for CF, VW, and SS.

F Byleth for that one AM run where I romanced Dimitri.

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#92262: Nov 25th 2022 at 9:19:04 PM

What do you have against battle corsets and combat pantyhose?

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#92263: Nov 25th 2022 at 9:59:19 PM

Engage Mode results in everyone getting glowing weird hair so it’s not really a difference. Heck Byleth turns his users hair purple like his Emblems gemstone!

Meanwhile Veronica is having a figure made on her Book VI design

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#92264: Nov 26th 2022 at 12:19:41 AM

In any case I always see M!Byleth as being more associated with Verdant Wind.

Female Byleth is more popular with every route than Male Byleth but the reason Male Byleth has a slightly bigger association for VW for people is because the Claudeleth fandom isn't as big or rabid as the Dimileth and Edeleth fandom. Also the girls in GD are much more popular on average than the girls in other routes and that has an effect on content creation.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#92265: Nov 26th 2022 at 12:23:42 AM

Even Three houses as lauded as it is for Edelgard and Rhea still portrays them as heavily flawed and needing men to help them lead like Hubert and Seteth, optionally Male Byleth, while Dimitri and Claude are portrayed as pretty much perfect in their endings and don’t need women to help them lead or the day to day affairs.

To be fair here, Edelgard and Rhea were created to be antagonists first.

Hence why Silver Snow has Byleth kill Edelgard (as well as Thales) and Rhea. Dimitri and Claude were fleshed out as heroes first with Dimitri's crazy boar phase being a detour.

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#92266: Nov 26th 2022 at 12:53:00 AM

...One heck of a "detour" that was...

I've always wondered why Enlightened Byleth got the lightest shade of green hair they could pick. It's practically white with green tint. Maybe that was the point.

Edited by YnK on Nov 26th 2022 at 12:54:54 PM

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#92267: Nov 26th 2022 at 4:19:08 AM

Considering how irrelevant Claude and Dimitri are in the grand scheme of things, compared to Edelgard, Rhea, Byleth, and Thales, it does make sense.

SS doesn't really know what to do with them so they are defeated off-camera so Byleth stays the lead.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 26th 2022 at 7:20:10 AM

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#92268: Nov 26th 2022 at 4:21:18 AM

TBH it doesn't seem like Silver Snow knows what to do with anyone.

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#92269: Nov 26th 2022 at 4:46:49 AM

Well it does succeed with it's most basic idea of Byleth growing to be the supreme leader of Fodlan as their divine mandate to guide Fodlan.

Like sure it doesn't really focus on Rhea at all because to be blunt, it's not supposed to by design. At best she still serves as a symbol of the old order that needs fresh blood and reform which is what Byleth brings. Even when she romances Byleth, there's still mention of how she and Byleth bring reform to the system.

SS is the Byleth route, it's about how they grow to be the leader Fodlan needs. It's why the mural focuses on them. And why they look so sad and miserable leading. XD.

In a vacuum SS is fine. That's the problem. VW just does it better since it has a a character who can talk like Claude, and there's also a theme of ending xenophobia.

SS Byleth has none of the lords alive or at least in contact with them.

VW Byleth rules Fodlan and has good relations with Almyra with King Claude.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 26th 2022 at 10:29:40 AM

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#92270: Nov 26th 2022 at 7:30:18 AM

I take it all back. Engage is based because of this fact:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cf_canon.png

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#92271: Nov 26th 2022 at 8:05:52 AM

I think it's likely that characters like Corrin and Byleth will not be from any specified route, as that's the best way not to play favorites or force one route onto other people like a jackass. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out Corrin and Byleth aren't from any of their official game's routes whatsoever.

Or maybe the devs will do the right thing and have this Byleth come from Cindered Shadows.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#92272: Nov 26th 2022 at 8:14:49 AM

Oh it's just a joke.

But I do appreciate that Emblem Byleth is a dude and had the CF hair NGL. cool

But if they do seriously canonize CF by mentioning that Byleth teaches Edelgard and doesn't like Rhea, then I will laugh my ass off.

EDIT: Oh yeah, doesn't Engage Byleth have Edelgard's axe? [lol]

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 26th 2022 at 11:23:10 AM

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#92273: Nov 26th 2022 at 8:25:33 AM

If you do end up laughing your ass off, make sure you do it in a way that's not being an ass towards others on the thread; we do have a "Don't be a dick" rule, after all.

Personally, I feel like they probably won't specify which house Byleth chose, since doing that makes it easier for players to imagine Byleth teaching their favorite house without stepping on other people's toes. Heck, I wouldn't be too surprised if it turned out the Byleth in Engage didn't come from a specific chapter in Three Houses, including White Clouds.

We do kind of have precedence with that reasoning, as Fire Emblem Warriors didn't mention any routes for Corrin. Or maybe the scenario where this Byleth is from is one not seen in Three Houses or Three Hopes.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 26th 2022 at 8:29:31 AM

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#92274: Nov 26th 2022 at 8:27:55 AM

Yeah when have I ever bullied anyone for their choice of route/Waifu?

Nah man, It was his wedding gift from her after they fucked in Rhea's room.

Gameplay doesn't let him take it from her on BL or GD. cool

Still the fact that Byleth has Aymr is implying this Byleth is Edelgard adjacent. How interesting.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 26th 2022 at 11:28:49 AM

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#92275: Nov 26th 2022 at 8:29:35 AM

Oh yeah, doesn't Engage Byleth have Edelgard's axe?

Clearly it means that the axe was taken from Edelgard's cold dead hands. It was her item drop for killing her.

Jokes aside, where was Byleth shown having an axe? Was it in a Twitter post or something, because I don't recall seeing it in the gameplay trailer, where Byleth is shown with the Sword of the Creator. Which means that Byleth probably still has the Crest stone in their heart.

EDIT: Never mind, found where it was in the trailer. It would not surprise me if Areadbhar and Failnaught are also in the game, like how they were in Smash Ultimate.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 26th 2022 at 8:41:21 AM


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