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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#141952: Dec 6th 2018 at 12:36:57 PM

Nope.

Last spells are “extra” attacks that happen after the boss fight if you collect enough Time points throughout a stage. They disable your bombs and your lives, so that you must do it without any extra resources. Getting hit during a Last spell costs you nothing, not even the life you had when you got hit; it just ends the spell prematurely. Clearing a Last spell just gets you points. So, there’s nothing to worry about once you get to a Last spell; you’ve already beat the boss.

Edited by Enlong on Dec 6th 2018 at 3:37:41 PM

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PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#141953: Dec 6th 2018 at 12:51:08 PM

So what the hell do I have to do to get the good ending, then? When the game showed me my final score, it said I didn't use any continues, yet I still only got the normal ending? Is this some Easy-Mode Mockery bullshit or something? Do I have to 1cc the game on Normal for it to mean anything?

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Dec 6th 2018 at 3:53:47 PM

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#141954: Dec 6th 2018 at 1:08:54 PM

Iirc, the first time you complete the game, you are only able to go down the path that leads to Eirin as the final boss. After beating Eirin, any other time you beat Reisen in stage 5, you’ll be able to select path B, which leads to the true final boss, provided you haven’t used a continue by the time you beat Reisen. Difficulty setting has nothing to do with it (blessedly, it doesn’t have anything to do with reaching stage 6 in any game other than Embodiment of Scarlet Devil).

Edited by Enlong on Dec 6th 2018 at 4:10:27 AM

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#141956: Dec 6th 2018 at 5:30:58 PM

For what it's worth, IN is the only game that did this kind of thing. No other games have a True Final Boss kind of thing.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#141957: Dec 6th 2018 at 7:14:11 PM

You do get the bad ending on Mountain of Faith (and maybe the PC-98 games?) for playing on Easy and several games only unlock the EX stage on Normal and higher, though

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#141958: Dec 6th 2018 at 8:25:19 PM

True Final Boss is also in effect for EOSD and some of the PC 98 games.

But it's not that hard to achieve. No Easy-Mode Mockery here. Normal mode is basically Easy mode but pattern density increases on average by about a factor of 3. Which means the attack that sends a single ring of bullets becomes three rings close together. If you can dodge the one ring, you can dodge the three just as easily.

That said, it's best you keep practice at it. Pretty much nobody can 1cc on their first go. (I never have outside of PC 98 games and I've beaten every Touhou game up to Ten Desires and most of the Extra/Phantasm stages.)

Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#141959: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:34:03 PM

Also, if you reach a Last Spell (whether you capture it or not) your time counter will increase by half an hour (rather than an hour) which is basically like getting an extra continue (though not for the purpose of 1ccing the game, obviously).

And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#141960: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:37:34 PM

I like Utsuho's cool glowing tats on the last page.

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PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#141961: Dec 7th 2018 at 3:33:32 AM

[up][up][up]I've probably exceeded ten gos by now.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#141962: Dec 7th 2018 at 7:34:51 AM

^ It usually takes me upwards of a hundred to get one of the games right. Assuming no trickery involving Stage 4. If Stage 4 has character specific trickery, it'll take up to 120 tries before I finally get it right.

Seriously, some of my spellcard counters have dozens of attempts/captures. On a single character.

These are not games you're going to master in an afternoon.

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#141963: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:04:34 AM

[up]or fuckin' a decade apparently

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#141964: Dec 7th 2018 at 11:54:04 AM

And despite saying that, I finally fuckin' did it. I 1cc'd IM with the two Marisa and Alice.

though I did use the Game-Breaker trick to do it. look i'm just a man what more do you want from me

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#141965: Dec 7th 2018 at 12:17:15 PM

What, the Malice Beam? No worries, that's pretty much the only way to make that team viable.

Song of the Sirens
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#141966: Dec 7th 2018 at 10:13:06 PM

^ Especially since Alice's beam is an absolute joke in effectiveness.

When you unlock doing the game without partners, try Marisa alone, her shot is much better than Alice ever is.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#141967: Dec 7th 2018 at 10:15:47 PM

or fuckin' a decade apparently

When I was just starting out, it took me over a month just to clear EOSD.

Keep trying, you'll get it.

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#141969: Dec 8th 2018 at 3:13:30 AM

[up][up]I did just barely get it, finally; look up.

[up]I was wondering what Not-Benben's name was.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Dec 8th 2018 at 6:15:48 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#141971: Dec 8th 2018 at 5:48:18 AM

Congrats, Stamina! smile[tup] Awesome that you persevered, mad respect.

(Also: glad to see I'm not the only one to use the name Not-Benben grin)

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#141972: Dec 8th 2018 at 5:54:17 AM

[up]Don't cheer too much, I gave up on PCB.

Also, I thought "Not-Benben" was a Fan Nickname?

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#141973: Dec 8th 2018 at 10:28:09 AM

Don't cheer too much, I gave up on PCB.

Keep trying. If you can beat IN, you can beat PCB.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#141974: Dec 8th 2018 at 6:23:22 PM

That is not true. IN is possibly the easiest game, PCB is among the harder ones. And if PS is playing on Easy that's the single largest gap in the entire series

MachThreeSlug Since: Dec, 2011
#141975: Dec 8th 2018 at 6:59:44 PM

Yeah, gonna have to side with Hylarn on this one. I've gotten a 1CC in IN with everybody but the furthest I've ever gotten in PCB was the middle of stage 6 and that was only once. Youmu walls me hard like you wouldn't believe.


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