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StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
I missed this avatar.
#3676: Aug 19th 2010 at 1:59:04 PM

If we actually do the OC crafting thread, I so want to be the guy who judges how good they are.

Trust me, I've created Hundred's of OC's for a lot of series. I Know This Stuff.

Just because you've done a whole lot of them doesn't mean you're any good.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#3677: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:06:25 PM

^ And why are you insinuating that I'm bad? Have you read any of my works? Because if you haven't, then you have no grounds to insult me.

Sorry, but ad hominem isn't a good argument style.

edited 19th Aug '10 2:11:31 PM by Chagen46

"Who wants to hear about good stuff when the bottom of the abyss of human failure that you know doesn't exist is so much greater?"-Wraith
StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
I missed this avatar.
#3678: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:11:02 PM

Neither is throwing a fit anytime someone has anything at all to say about the OCs you refuse to stop talking about.

edited 19th Aug '10 2:11:15 PM by StarkMaximum

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#3679: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:11:13 PM

That wasn't even an ad hominem attack.

edited 19th Aug '10 2:11:22 PM by Zudak

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#3680: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:15:36 PM

Shhhhhh. Not during Wriggle-time.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#3681: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:16:23 PM

Neither is throwing a fit anytime someone has anything at all to say about the OCs you refuse to stop talking about.

First of all, I'm not throwing a fit everytime someone mentions OC's. I have a tendency to respond to posts about them since I've worked with them before.

Secondly, you could just ignore my posts.

But I guess being logical and intelligent is too difficult for someone like you.

avatar: Zudak delirious biznasty That wasn't even an ad hominem attack.

I was under the impression that blindly attacking someone instead of what was being debated was ad hominem.

"Who wants to hear about good stuff when the bottom of the abyss of human failure that you know doesn't exist is so much greater?"-Wraith
Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#3682: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:16:56 PM

An ad hominem, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "to the man"), is an attempt to link the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.

Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3683: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:19:36 PM

As amusing as a fight between Stark and Chagen would be, this thread is supposed to be on topic. Start talking about Wriggle. Or suggest someone else if you think we've ran out of things to say about her.

StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
I missed this avatar.
#3684: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:25:02 PM

I had some long-ass post here but I'll summarize it: It wasn't an attack, it was a statement that you may not be as good as you think you are, you turned it into an attack because you have some sort of victimization complex, that's why you annoy me so much and why you're so frustrating to deal with and why I and probably others haven't even bothered to look up any of your stuff, if you took OC hate in stride and just tried to say "Look, try to give me a chance anyway and if you don't like it, whatever" instead of bitching about how everyone hates OCs, you might have a chance as an interesting and likable writer rather than a whiny little baby. Quit acting like King Character Creator up on your throne just because you've wasted more time focusing on quantity rather than quality.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#3685: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:29:46 PM

Stop this. We really don't need to get into this again. You may not have started with a personal attack Stark, but it certainly is one now.

StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
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#3686: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:30:48 PM

Goodness me did one of my Berserk Buttons get pressed it sure looked like it did I should get a hold of myself.

edited 19th Aug '10 2:31:59 PM by StarkMaximum

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#3687: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:38:11 PM

Gee, Stark, did you ever think I "bitched" about how everyone hates OC's because it just might be true? Which it certainly is.

As for the quality vs. quantity thing, you haven't even read one of my works, so you are in no position to criticize that aspect of them.

edited 19th Aug '10 2:38:24 PM by Chagen46

"Who wants to hear about good stuff when the bottom of the abyss of human failure that you know doesn't exist is so much greater?"-Wraith
StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
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#3688: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:40:12 PM

I've said what I wanted to say.

You know who is a good character though, is Wriggle. Lot of fun to write for and a lot of people like her.

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#3689: Aug 19th 2010 at 2:48:35 PM

Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up.

Anyway, Wriggle:

...Damn, and I thought it was hard to find good art of Aki. Definitely a satellite character.

edited 19th Aug '10 2:49:40 PM by Hylarn

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#3690: Aug 19th 2010 at 3:37:24 PM

I just want to know what Wriggle meant to do by trying to kidnap Remilia in Imperishable Night.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#3691: Aug 19th 2010 at 4:31:52 PM

I'm in my happy place... I'm in my happy place... I am between Yuyuko's breasts...

Aaaalright so.

@Bocaj: Gladly!

I have no idea where the Princess Wriggle thing started, but- oh, wait, now I do~

Sou nano ka!

@Hylarn: Huh, that's surprising. I even knew most of those pictures already... heck, some of them multiple times, even.

I'm going to have to scavenge that tag in detail myself one of these days...

And scrutinize Wriggles' in-game dialogue, too. And her song description. Gotta squeeze out every possibility.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#3692: Aug 19th 2010 at 5:14:25 PM

Man, the three mischievous fairies need to stop hanging around Reimu and Marisa all the time and interact with some of the little people of Gensokyo.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#3693: Aug 19th 2010 at 8:06:51 PM

Makes me wonder... if fairies are drawn to powerful people, thus explaining why you fight them on the way to a dudette and they get denser - err, more numerous - as you move up the power scale... Maybe the Three Mischievous Fairies are just naturally drawn to Marisa and Reimu because they're so powerful.

It only figures that the main characters would get few, but exceptionally powerful, unwitting mook groupies.

Or maybe not.

I was like "what, only one new reply while I was asleep" and then I realized that my sleep was less than three hours hahahaha aughwesome.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#3694: Aug 19th 2010 at 8:10:08 PM

Wouldn't we see like Yukari or Yuyuko or Utsuho as well then?

Tacitus This. Cannot. Continue. from The Great American Dumpster Fire Since: Jan, 2001
This. Cannot. Continue.
#3695: Aug 19th 2010 at 9:52:17 PM

Anyway, the real question is whether Wriggle's butt glows in the dark.

I vote that it lights up when she blushes.

And finally, thanks for the picdump~

I realized I'd spent a lot of time on the Touhou threads when, while poking around Danbooru, I started asking myself "would it make a good avatar for someone?"

Makes me wonder... if fairies are drawn to powerful people, thus explaining why you fight them on the way to a dudette and they get denser - err, more numerous - as you move up the power scale... Maybe the Three Mischievous Fairies are just naturally drawn to Marisa and Reimu because they're so powerful.

It only figures that the main characters would get few, but exceptionally powerful, unwitting mook groupies.

Hmm... fairies are spontaneous, sapient manifestations of nature... fairies can grow in power... fairies that grow in power may become full-blown youkai...

So fairies are mobbing powerful characters in an attempt to defeat them and "level-up" into youkai?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3696: Aug 19th 2010 at 9:53:10 PM

^ I second that vote.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#3697: Aug 20th 2010 at 5:22:28 AM

Adorable!

Thirded!

I realized I'd spent a lot of time on the Touhou threads when, while poking around Danbooru, I started asking myself "would it make a good avatar for someone?"

grin

Wouldn't we see like Yukari or Yuyuko or Utsuho as well then?

I dunno, do fairies mobbing powerful entities just randomly conglomerate around whomever they find or are they like groupies of certain people? I know Orin had her own kind of fairies, but that may be a special case...

Oh yeah, I quite liked that doujin that's a collection of short stories about level 1- and 2 bosses! The idea that Wriggle had such an impact is pretty awesome.

edited 20th Aug '10 5:23:36 AM by Fawriel

Yreomyr Takin' it easy Since: Mar, 2010
Takin' it easy
#3698: Aug 20th 2010 at 6:48:29 AM

Firstly: Fourthed!

Secondly: I've always had this image in my head that Wriggle is rather wealthy, but perhaps literally doesn't know what to do with it. Think of any and all loose change you've ever lost. Wriggle has it. How? why, her fabulous army of insects gathers them, thinking she'd like them.

Wriggle: "Oh hey, you found another of those shiny round things! I love these! Thanks centipede number 13532!" *adds to gigantic pile*

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#3699: Aug 20th 2010 at 7:36:33 AM

Now that's a new one. It seems more like something that Nazrin's mice would do... But of course, Nazrin is a lot more worldly and modern than Wriggle and would know exactly what to do with her wealth. Which makes the Wriggle variant superior because Rule of Funny.

Now I wonder what other parallels one could draw between Nazrin and Wriggle... They both have their swarms of vermin, which they may or may not treat similarly, but of course, mice have a rather different reception among the populace than creepy-crawlies...

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3700: Aug 20th 2010 at 10:30:00 AM

Sliding back for a moment, I had a sudden thought about Youmu. Two actually:

1) You know how Japanese ghost stories often assume that ghosts are malevolent, regardless of who they were or how they died? I'll bet she hates hearing ghost stories because they make her imagine a world where her kind and loving mistress Yuyuko is a people-eating monster. Or it feels to her that the stories are saying, "You're half monster, you monster!" Kind of speciesist, you know?

2) Why is she so often portrayed as being short? I think I'm going to picture her as a tall and gawky kid just to go against the grain.


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