Young Justice

The Phantom Zone is a full on other dimension. It's typically where criminals are banished to, with the hope you'll never see them again. The ghost dimension seems to be more an energy field than anything else. Like, you can walk into a ghost dimension field and not be transported to another dimension. Is it called the Ghost Dimension or the X-Pit? I think I've seen both. In the original comics the X-Pit was a physical prison on Apokalips, run by Granny Goodness. It was known for having death traps and for being inescapable, at least until Mister Miracle got out. Speaking of, have we seen Mister Miracle anywhere in this show?

As to what Granny would use equip the Orphanage's a field emitter for if she just recently found out about the Anti-life equation, if you have the ability to summon an energy field that causes people immense physical pain and acts to brainwash them, that's useful even if you don't have Violet there to make the brainwashing permanent.

Edited by WillKeaton on Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:05:53 AM

In the show, at least, the terminology is that X-Pit is the prison, whereas the Ghost Dimension is the energy field the prison taps into.

For the purposes of Granny’s device, it’s Ghost Dimension power, not X-Pit power.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:08:32 AM

Wiki says this

Yeah, that's the original prison/torture chamber/death trap version of the X-Pit made by Kirby. This new one is obviously something different.

Well, just saw it.

Honestly, M'gann trying to brain fry everyone, including the Markov's and Forager is not going to help Tara's trust issues.

This is all gonna end in blood.

Edit: And Gar only say luck in a text and going nowhere near the others certainly shows what he thinks of them right now. I doubt having to save them from their own screw up is gonna fix anything either.

I get the feeling the Outsiders are going to be completely independent after this is done, from the League and the Team.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 23rd 2019 at 11:25:51 AM

Double post:

Dick has been exposed to the X-Pit (that damages normal humans far more than metas) twice now.

....that's NOT good.

Edit: Also, have the last three episode not aired yet? Usually, the latest one would be up by now right?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:25:04 AM

Well, the three part finale is due to be released today. Anyone seen it yet?

I only saw 2 of them during my lunch break and will watch the 3rd part when I get home.

They're really pushing the "Donald Trump" angle on Luthor though.

He makes a "fine people on both sides" remark. lol

I will see them tomorrow. I am busy with other stuff.

I have a feeling that this is gonna be so explosive that they will be discussed here up to ten pages in one day.

Just finish watching this season finale. And boy was there a lot to talk about:

Now in the last episode, Terminus, the heroes are fucked.

Into The Breach: The heroes are unfucked thanks to the Outsiders getting what maybe their first legitimate win with no League involvement. Actually thought they would drag this Anti Life biz for the next three episodes and have the heroes of Earth forced to fight the heroes in space ala season one finale, but nope. Cyborg fixes everything (btw this is the episode whete Vic starts calling himself Cyborg and becomes a full time hero). And because I am a nightmare fetishist, I feel incline to talk about that scene where the two Grannies merge being very reminiscent to “The Thing” and “Time Cop”; glad the show doing references to awesome movies.

Well shit. This episode basically concluded the season long plot of the show involving Apokalips. Now they have to focus on ALL the other plotlines in this very bloated season.

Overwhelmed: Well fans got their wish, Wally is back . . . okay that’s a lie, but its pretty vital for Artemis to learn to move on from Wally as it is keeping her close off from pursuing actually relationships. Speaking of relationships, the thing with her and Will? REJECTED! By the end of the episode they acknowledge how weird it is and just settle as friends. Hooray for platonic relationships!

I’m also glad that the show follow up on the Genomes plotline as that haven’t been focused on a lot lately. Do like that it is done in service of furthering the development of Forager and Superboy into going public as heroes in an attempt to making the Genomes welcomed on Earth.

No harm came to Lian at all. Felt like pointing that out. Though its amusing how she reacts to being dragged off along with Victor and Violet into some completely eldritch location outside of time and space by Metron. Its adorable!

And the Light are now initiating their plan to gaining complete control by instigating a Crisis in Markov.

Nevermore: With an episode title like this you would expect Raven would appear as a set up for the next season. Well you’ll be surprised at who showed up at the end? (I should write for Buzzfeed)

This was NOT how I expected Judas Contract will go down. First off Terra, under orders of the Light, is tasked to make her betrayal public by murdering Beast Boy in an attempt to showing the world that metahumans are dangerous. Second Artemis revealed that she did in fact knew Terra is a mole for Deathstroke from Batman (he should of kept the mask on during Santa Prisca) and didn’t spill the beans on her because she hoped that Tara will turn good. She succeed, and now Terra is now a good guy quelling our fear that she will betray the team then die. Third, GODDAMN Brionmite! You fucking murdered your uncle and made yourself king of Markovia. Guess he is pretty pissed with all the lies and betrayal so decided to do the betrayals himself by taking the crown from his brother.

So yeah Terra’s officially a good guy looking for redemption and Geo Force turns into a Knight Templar bad guy. Yeah this is even worse then the original comic.

Despite the setbacks, Lex Luthor still attempts to pull off the metahuman registration plans as Brion’s emotional outburst is the tool he need. Also, yes No Name, they are really laying thick on the Trump allegories with Luthor. Right down to Cyborg and Cyborg blowing the whistles on his corrupt dealings in the UN. Oh and Superboy finally went public by help exposing his “dad” in regards to Project Genome.

Speaking of Superboy, him and Miss Martian are thankfully still engage. The lies and secrets didn’t destroy everything

Speaking of lies and secrets, Dick reveal all the heroes the whole Anti Light activities with all the members of said group admiting how wrong their actions were with members resigning from their leadership. So who ends up as chairman of the entire League? Black Lightning. Good. The season really have been setting the character up for big things; and his whole “No Lies and Secrets” policy is all for the better.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Brion is now king of Markovia ruling the place with an iron fist. But like Conker, it is not what he wanted as he officially lost the people he cared for because of his decision, Violet couldn’t even look at him anymore, and guess who showed up to advise his rule? Ragyo Kiruyin a.k.a. Dr. Jace.

So yeah basically a bittersweet finale. There was emotional loses, glorious victories, and a lot of the plot lines are wrapped up nicely.

And then there’s this waitress at the diner the heroes were eating at. Its odd how the camera focused on her rather than Kon and Megan. Especially at her wedding ring, which is yellow and black with an L and star in the center of it . . . . . you thought Raven is going to be hinted at, but instead its the Legion of Super-Heroes!

Oh and there’s a post credit scene.

Spoilers abound.

That finale was... tamer than I thought it would be. I thought things would come to a head with Darkseid, and to a degree, they did, but only with Granny Goodness and Darkseid looming as a Greater-Scope Villain for Season 4.

Also, oh my word, that stinger! My fucking sides are in orbit!

So the Legion is getting involved? And we've got Darkseid already...

The Great Darkness Saga anyone?

And man, Brion does not look happy on that throne. He really is Conker from Bad Fur Day. Wonder if he'll go get smashed at a bar later.

Edited by M84 on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:50:51 PM

Think they can show restraint so the next season doesn't look so bloated?

So now I'm wondering if the ambassador is this verse's version of the Psycho-Pirate.

This is not how I pictured JUDAS Contract hahaha.

Ok so it sounds like the season finale was godawful (which was kinda expected since S3 was pretty bad in general)

Idk if I will even watch it. I kinda dont care about the show anymore.

S3 was not worth the wait.

Where you getting that?

I don't agree with that assessment at all. I found it a satisfying finale to a great season. I'd even say the season was the strongest of the three, with each being progressively better than the last. I realize that I'm probably in a minority in thinking the first season was by far the weakest, though.

Edited by DrDougsh on Aug 27th 2019 at 7:36:35 AM

@Blueace

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. In fact it would now be even more bloated since they literally hinted at The Legion of (OHMYGODWHYARETHERESOMANYOFTHEM) Super Heroes being in the next season.

x3 I agree with everyone else. Where you getting at that none of us enjoyed the finale? I, the guy who fucking spent an hour posting a wall of texts worth of spoilers (which barely even contain all my thoughts), found the whole thing satisfying with all the lose ends wrapped up nicely unlike the second season.

Oh yeah, you are definitely going to be in the minority on that opinion.

Edited by BigK1337 on Aug 27th 2019 at 10:46:55 AM

The Stinger at least removed one potential source of bloating. No chance of Lil' Lobo now.

X7 It's not. It's an actual character from the comics, the Bad Samaritan. Also, we got a YJ Psycho Pirate in a small comic story that came out years ago to promote season one.

Yea most fans are divided on S1 and S2, but don't like S3 as much. For a variety of reasons, it being bloated, focusing on too many characters (most of which we didn't find interesting) and thereby thinning out character development, rushing the Anti-Life equation plot, ect.

IMO S3 started off pretty well but quickly degenerated.

What most fans exactly?

Yeah, upon further reflection it seemed like a long shot.

And good on Black Lightning for becoming the new leader of the Justice League. Also, good on the "Anti-Light" for realizing the whole thing was ultimately a bad idea.

It helps that the last secret the heroes kept — Tara's true allegiance — backfired on them horribly. Keeping Brion out of the loop over something this personal was the last straw (though that was also due to Bad Samaritan's psychic influence).

Edited by M84 on Aug 27th 2019 at 11:47:55 PM

Don't know where you got that from. Honestly I found this the best season so far.

Where are "most fans"

Edited by Envyus on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:55:28 AM