Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Probably because it was one of those things that was extremely revolutionary at the time, but later iterations did it better.

I think there's a trope for that but I can not remember its name.

While that's probably the correct trope, it's not actually the one I was thinking of. The only thing I can remember besides what it was is that its picture was one of those old time bicycles with the giant front wheel.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 16th 2018 at 11:39:41 AM

Seinfeld is Unfunny is the trope your looking for.

Keep in mind this shit is over 20 years old.

Obviously it can have issues aging.

Also R.I.P. Old Joseph. 😢

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 16th 2018 at 10:37:05 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

R.i.P Shishi...

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.

Context.

Reading it now, SDC has a repetitive monster of the week structure, with a kind of lackluster cast and decent battles but not many super excellent moments outside of the D'Arby poker game and a few others. It's nothing that great.

But to a japanese kid in the 1980's it was fantastic entertainment. The monster of the week structure worked perfectly with it because it was, well, created to be entertaining to people on a week to week basis. That's also part of why part 5 was better received in Japan for a long time.

You have to account for that with stuff like this when it comes to reception of the series between different regions. While I don't think it's universally held as bad, many people I've spoken to similarly feel that SDC hasn't necessarily aged well and the succeeding Jojo parts are far better.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Aug 16th 2018 at 2:08:09 PM

Ohhh nooooooooo......

Personally I still like 3 over 4, 5, and 6. 5 is cool but diavolo is kind of lame, 6 is the worst part behind phantom blood and has some of the worst fights, and part 4's lack of urgency and hit or miss cast makes it kind of middle of the road for me. Plus the setting isn't as good as the other Jojos, as it doesn't lend itself as well to the adventure aspect of Jojo.

Heh I highly doubt SC is better than any of them.

SC is plagued by a wasted use of its main cast (Avdol, Kakyoin, & Joseph barely get jack shit to do), rather mundane fights, a rather boring or flat lead, & a very simple plot-line.

I have no doubt that everything after SC is superior by virtue of the fact SC provides a rather low bare-minimum of improvement & just by looking more fun in comparison especially with the varied emotive lead Jojo’s.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 17th 2018 at 12:21:35 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Avdol literally gets one fight in the entire series where he uses his Stand, and it's against Polnareff.

Well two since he ends up bailing Polnareff in his return.

And technically 3 if you count him & Joseph against Mariah.

But the point still stands, he didn’t do much aside from reacting.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

That sucks. He did a fantastic job.

So Joseph Joestar (and also Admiral Kizaru) has finally died.

Rest in peace old man. Rest in peace.

One Strip! One Strip!

Giorno's character trailer. The Vento Aureo anime will start airing on October 5th.

"Strategy? Spacing? I just keep punching until I hit something." - Sol Badguy

Regarding the leg punch, I found that a little silly, especially since DIO had just gotten a power-up before hand and yet died even easier than when he was fighting Jotaro normally beforehand. I guess you could chalk it up to Star Platinum getting a power-up or something due to Jotaro's anger, but it does feel pretty random.

Sure, people like to say that DIO kicked with the leg that was healing or that it was his bad side or whatever. But still, he took hits to his bad side earlier in the fight, too, and he still managed to bounce back.

I have no idea where Kakyoin got a reputation as a memetic loser, but if you backtrack and look at pre-Egypt, you'll see that he was consistently the most useful member of the group.

• Defeated the first enemy Stand User that Jotaro couldn't.
• Saved Jotaro and Anne from being attacked by Dark Blue Moon.
• Assisted Polnareff in killing J. Geil and also saved him from getting killed.
• Prevented the group's car from falling into a ditch during the fight against Wheel of Fortune.
• Figured out the trick behind the Lovers, defeated him, and ensnared him so he wouldn't be able to pull the same trick again on Jotaro.
• Figured out the trick behind The Sun before everyone else.
• Everything with Death XIII.
• Saved Polnareff from getting killed by High Priestess.

And I'm probably forgetting some things.

Heck, even if he died, he forced DIO into a corner that required him to reveal his Stand.

Edited by Hobgoblin on Aug 17th 2018 at 8:48:42 AM

I don't think which side DIO kicked with actually mattered. I think it was just as simple as

Jotaro: I'll give you a few seconds to heal your legs because killing you while you're down won't feel good.

DIO: Heh heh. I'm going to be a bastard and surprise attack you before those seconds are up.

DIO: Oh No! How could attacking Jotaro with a kick from a partially broken leg have possibly backfired on me?! I am Dioooourghulburghul- *explodes*

But yeah. It's a very anticlimactic ending to what had up till then been a fantastic fight.

The leg punch was honestly just the tip of the iceberg in a battle full of Ass Pulls.

This song needs more love.

Yeah but we can forgive the other asspulls because they lead to cool stuff.

Ehhhhhh aside from the Jotaro learning the time-stop I don’t see how it was “full” of asspulls.

Also that.

What they should have done during the kick is play the Jonochi no Sadame song just like they did in Part 2.

A perfect callback to the previous 2 series.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 17th 2018 at 9:16:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I think that Jotaro punching DIO's leg should've only destroyed the leg, and then he should've ORA ORA ORA'd him into oblivion.

Literally the entire fight was centered around Jotaro learning the time-stop.

Like without that, there wouldn't even be a fight and DIO would curb stomp him.

Edited by LordVatek on Aug 17th 2018 at 12:30:14 PM

This song needs more love.

Then it’s not a bunch of asspulls.

It is one asspull, singular.

Ya gotta say it right.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 17th 2018 at 9:39:22 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

There were others though (the books, the heart thing, flying etc.). The time-stop was just the biggest.

Edited by LordVatek on Aug 17th 2018 at 12:43:51 PM

This song needs more love.

Eh typical Jojo wackiness.

Beside as said they lead to fun moments.

It never stops being amusing how Jotaro can suddenly fly & gain a golden aura.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Man, I don't use the word asspull lightly, but that fight was full of them. Jotaro wearing a bunch of stuff underneath his shirt that stopped the knives, Jotaro just kind of teleporting into a sewer that Dio was trying to escape into, where did Dio even get that Steamroller from... the list goes on.

The thing, though, is that that's exactly what Jojo has always run on. When faced with a choice between what makes sense and what would be cool, it will choose the cool thing every time. I'm amazed that somebody who has a problem with that could ever make it as far as the DIO fight, honestly.

Edited by Gilphon on Aug 17th 2018 at 12:47:45 PM

I don't really have an issue with most of them, only with how the main antagonist was only able to be beaten through the protagonist getting a completely out-of-nowhere ability that was never foreshadowed to be obtainable by the protagonist using a vaguely-defined and never used again mechanic. It reeks of Araki writing himself into a corner.

Unless it's a gag series, that's just bad writing.

Edited by LordVatek on Aug 17th 2018 at 12:52:24 PM

This song needs more love.

I mean, you did just described how most Shonen final battles go. And when the power we're talking about is 'a weaker version of part of the villain's powerset', we're talking about a unusually mild case of that.