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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#176: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:01:17 AM

Squirtle and Wartortle seem like fresh water creatures, Blastoise might be sea-dwelling though. So they may live near deltas, where fresh and sea water mix. Feeding primarily on fish.

I always thought that Bulbasaur live in warmer plains areas or jungles, and feed on a combination of vegetation and photosynthesis. And they attract mates by releasing hormones via their flowers and during mating the male's plant releases spores. The spores are collected by the female and used to germinate a seed which is implanted into the embryo some time during gestation.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#177: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:04:18 AM

I need to start finding pictures...

Bulbasaur Line

Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

  • Bulbasaur [001]
  • Ivysaur [002]
  • Venusaur [003]

TODO: physical descriptions

Notable Biology

The plant on the back of a Bulbasaur would appear at first glance to be a symbiotic partner; however, further study has revealed that the bulb is in fact genetically identical to its host. Further DNA study revealed that the Bulbasaur genome can be divided into typically reptilian and typically angiosperm halves, resulting in one of the most extreme known examples of embryonic cellular differentiation.

The division is not total, of course; Bulbasaur leaves contain nerves, and small concentrations of active chloroplasts are found in the skin.

TODO: detail evolution

Habitat

Warm, humid areas rich in vegetation.

Diet

Herbivorous, supplemented by photosynthesized sugars and starches. As such, Bulbasaur are not any more strongly attracted to sweetened food.

Hazards

Bulbasaur leaves are toxic (not that you'd eat one on purpose, surely!), and more mature specimens are capable of releasing PoisonPowder when feeling threatened.

While they do have fangs for intimidation, biting is not their first resort.

Courting

Mates attract each other by releasing hormones via their flowers. During mating, the male's plant releases spores, which are collected by the female. Whether the spores provide any genetic contribution to the offspring has not yet been established.

edited 28th Mar '10 7:03:54 PM by Tangent128

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#178: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:05:57 AM

Like I said before, it's a combination of both.

Also when we get enough entries, shall we put this in the Just for Fun section?

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Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
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#179: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:10:28 AM

I say we should make a wiki out of this when we have enough...also, squirtle line courting: "Similar to rams and deer, two competing males shoot continuous streams of water at the other, the streams colliding. When one overpowers the other(The stream makes contact), or one one runs out of water, the stronger male is proven."

What do you think. Obviously needs polish, but t seems to make sense.

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#180: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:21:39 AM

^^ Well, if the plant and animal components share their genome, then only one fertilization is needed.

^ If this is still active in May, I should be able to set up a wiki then.

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#181: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:35:21 AM

why fangs?

They're vestigial? They seem too small in comparison to the rest of its mouth to be really useful. Though they could be used to tear apart tough plants or for intimidation.

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#182: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:48:36 AM

pictures...

Squirtle Line

Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

  • Squirtle [007]
  • Wartortle [008]
  • Blastoise [009]

TODO: descriptions

Notable Biology

The Squirtle line's body is actually, on average, less dense than water, making them natural floaters. To dive for hunting and protection, they fill an internal ballast bladder with water. Powerful muscles enable them to use this sac as the source for a powerful jet of water.

TODO: detail evolution

Habitat

Estuaries  *

, river deltas, and other brackish environments. Squirtle and Wartortle will often venture upstream to hunt or play, while Blastoise retreat into deeper water when not rearing young.

Diet

Primarily fish.

Hazards

Due to their durable shells, the line finds no threat in the presence of humans.

Unless provoked, the species is actually more dangerous when displaying affection- as their shells lead them to overestimate a Trainer's sturdiness, a playful tackle may knock one breathless or leave bruises.

Courting

Similar to rams and deer, two competing males shoot continuous streams of water at the other, the streams colliding. When one overpowers the other, either through toppling or outlasting the opponent, the stronger male is proven.

edited 30th May '10 12:21:56 PM by Tangent128

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#184: Mar 28th 2010 at 12:15:49 PM

Now for the Charmander line and its damn tail flame.

My theory is that the Charmander doesn't die immediately after their tail flame is extinguished. Rather, they have an internal flame sac that is filled with a naturally produced gas and ignited by combustible minerals ingested by the Charmander. Excess gas is routed to the tail and expelled (ignited for some reason), if the tail flame goes out then the gas cannot be properly expelled and the flame sac will rupture from the pressure. Killing the pokemon, sometimes in a violent manner. The tail flame is usually kept at constant, controlled level but can increase in size when the pokemon is excited or decreases when fatigued.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#185: Mar 28th 2010 at 2:01:24 PM

I'm inclined to agree with this interpretation. A dying Char will lose the flame, but simply snuffing the flame just makes it mad.

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#186: Mar 28th 2010 at 2:17:06 PM

That works, I just thought of a way to tie it in to the firebreathing mechanism.

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#187: Mar 28th 2010 at 2:33:38 PM

The same organ supplies flammable gas to the tail and the mouth, perhaps?

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#188: Mar 28th 2010 at 2:44:56 PM

I'm positive I've seen the "it still hurts like a b&#ch" line before. Maybe the wild mass guess page, I don't remember.

What's the propellant? I've always imagined an organic napalm rather than a gas — much easier to aim, actually has some distance to it, and takes up less innards space. Smaller attacks like Ember are basically an atomized spray, before the pokémon learns to properly sustain a stream of propellant.

edited 28th Mar '10 2:46:00 PM by Pykrete

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#189: Mar 28th 2010 at 6:06:47 PM

Oi. This is a lot more in-depth than what comes up on the forums I'm used to. Nevertheless, I want in. You officially have a lurker.

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#190: Mar 28th 2010 at 6:31:21 PM

Bulbasaur have fangs because their ancient counterparts were carnivores. Or they play a role in threatening foes.

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#191: Mar 28th 2010 at 6:57:50 PM

I can't wait to see how you explain Eevee's multitude of evolutions.

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#192: Mar 28th 2010 at 7:00:27 PM

Unstable genetic code that easily reacts to radiation from certain sources.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#193: Mar 28th 2010 at 7:08:01 PM

^ & ^^ Heh. We'll probably need to have a general discussion on the evolution process itself. "Unstable genetic code" is a bit vague, and not really genetically sensible.

So, leave Bulbasaur's solid food as purely vegetarian? And what hazards are associated with Squirtle line?

I think we should probably have a "Social Structure" section, as well. Possibly merged with Courtship, possibly divided further. Thoughts?

edited 28th Mar '10 7:10:07 PM by Tangent128

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#194: Mar 28th 2010 at 7:26:25 PM

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Charmander Line

Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

  • Charmander [004]
  • Charmeleon [005]
  • Charizard [006]

All stages of the evolutionary chain look rather like large, bipedal, mundane lizards. They have an orange coloring (leaning towards red in the Charmeleon stage) with a cream belly.

Charmander average about 2 feet tall, with a head about the width of their body.

Notable Biology

The signature characteristic of this family is the continuous flame emanating from the tip of their tail. It is fed by gas generated in an internal pyrosac, with thick-walled igniter cells scattered around the exit pores.

The flame burns vigorously, and dissolved oxygen in the gas makes it difficult to extinguish even intentionally. Often the only time it's seen to go out is when the Char itself dies, spawning the urban legend that the extinguishment is itself the cause of death. While the temperature shock is quite painful, it is not inherently lethal.

TODO: detail firebreathing- gas or napalm?

Their claws are incredibly hard, and coupled with strong arm muscles and tendons are capable of digging into stone for climbing or burrowing.

TODO: detail evolution

The Charizard stage has developed wings, easing travel in their native mountain-filled/volcanic region. They tend to congregate near lava outlets, which provide reliable updrafts.

Habitat

The Charmander family is usually found upon smaller mountains, where there is little flammable vegetation, with rodents and other small animals available for hunting. Charizard may dig dens for themselves and offspring by crushing rocks or blasting the mountainside with flames. Some of the species have been artificially introduced to other places, like volcanic islands or large valleys.

Diet

Charmander often prey on small creatures, and have been witnessed using their fire to bring down prey slightly bigger than themselves. As their digestive system is not fully developed yet, they tend to cook their food with their own Embers before eating.

Charmeleon are extremely intelligent and willing to work together to bring down large prey. They often resort to Fire Fang attacks while darting in and out with quick strikes.

Charizard tend to go after larger prey, including deer and any cattle that may be raised near their mountain homes.

Hazards

They're on fire.

As often are the things around them.

In addition, Charmeleon and especially Charizard are easily irritable, when not carefully trained.

Courting

???

Social Behavior

Charizards often engage in ritual tests of strength rather than brawl it out over disputes despite their natural temper - probably because direct combat between Charizard would decimate the species. It is still a bad idea to test their temper, of course.

edited 14th Apr '10 11:39:35 PM by Tangent128

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#195: Mar 28th 2010 at 7:45:57 PM

Something for habitat: the Charmander family is usually found upon smaller mountains, with little vegetation. It provides a generally fireproof environment, with rodents and small animals for hunting. Charizard may dig dens for themselves and offspring by crushing rocks or blasting the mountainside with flames. Some of the species have been artificially introduced to other places, like volcanic islands or large valleys.

edited 28th Mar '10 7:46:24 PM by ElementBlue

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#196: Mar 28th 2010 at 7:55:47 PM

Evolution: Unless some other aspect of the specific Pokemon in question contradicts it, assuming 'evolving' simple means 'maturing'. I suspect you all already knew that, but I thought it bore stating.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#197: Mar 28th 2010 at 10:48:14 PM

^ Of course. Though there's the question of whether it works as a gradual development, or if it's a more sudden metamorphosis like all official media depicts.

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#198: Mar 28th 2010 at 10:52:17 PM

Hmm, isn't punctuated equilibrium more accepted today scientifically than gradualism?

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#199: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:05:49 PM

I prefer the sudden BAM YOU'RE AN IVYSAUR to a gradual maturation (mostly for storytelling purposes), even though the latter also takes place independently within each evo stage.

There are occasional psychological side effects to evolution. It has been known to dramatically alter the personality of the pokémon on occasion  *

.

Stone and most "special" evos can be Hand Waved via the associated Green Rocks and whatever radiation fairies are involved. But the cause of typical evolution is fuzzy. How exactly does "experience" translate into something that triggers physical transformation? It's something that has been empirically observed to happen sooner and more often in trained pokémon than wilds, which stresses the connection to building strength in a safe environment.

edited 28th Mar '10 11:06:09 PM by Pykrete

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping from you're not your Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#200: Mar 28th 2010 at 11:37:06 PM

It should be noted that Pokemon's stats usually increase during evolution; this could probably be taken as a sign that a Pokemon's body adapts to the physical stimuli which is translated to "experience" in in-game terms.

Some Pokemon are more sensitive to this (requiring low experience), while others are less sensitive.

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