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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3251: Feb 16th 2011 at 5:42:23 PM

So today I was stupid and thought 'Hey, why not draw a Palkia for the PEFE Project?' and then I thought 'Let's make it a sketch from a respected pokemon sketch artist!'

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#3252: Feb 16th 2011 at 5:44:29 PM

Very fine work indeed, Jane.

CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3253: Feb 16th 2011 at 5:45:56 PM

Yeah. Except for the fact that Palkia's article doesn't exist yet. I'd probably have to work with what we got from Dialga's Article if I did it. But I'm hesitant. On the one hand, I really, really, really don't want to step on anyone's toes by using gendered pronouns for a Legendary Pokemon. On the other hand, CONSISTENCY.

edited 16th Feb '11 5:47:30 PM by CalamityJane

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#3254: Feb 16th 2011 at 5:58:46 PM

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Maybe this was explained already, by why did whomever use gendered pronouns in the Dialgia article in the first place?

CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3255: Feb 16th 2011 at 5:59:53 PM

Sullen Frog wrote the Dialga article, and he said it was because Dialga had a really big, jagged head and lots of angles in its design, while Palkia had more curves.

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#3256: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:01:37 PM

Indeed. Besides, you'll notice that those apply primarily to the sections dealing with Dialga as a mythological creature; for much of the rest of the article, I refer to it as either "it" or by one of its religious titles, "The Archwyrm".

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
SullenFrog (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#3258: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:05:34 PM

Now that I reflect on it, that's another reason that could have been used when I had the myths refer to Palkia as female—namely, it has stiletto heels.

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Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#3259: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:06:44 PM

clearly, we applied a gender to a non-gendered creature because humans have a tendency of applying genders to non-gendered(or even inanimate or abstract) things(ie. boats are always she, mother nature, father time, etc). I'm pretty sure there's a trope for that somewhere, but I can't find it...

edited 16th Feb '11 6:07:12 PM by Blissey1

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3260: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:10:04 PM

Well, yes. I do agree with you that Palkia is female, Sullen. I honestly do. BUT THE TOES.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#3261: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:14:55 PM

Phallic Face aside, I don't really see masculine or feminine traits in either of them, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Is anyone in the process of writing the Mankey line's article?

Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#3262: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:16:23 PM

pics...

Croagunk Line

Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

  • Croagunk [453] (Dendrobates histrionicus)
  • Toxicroak [454] (D. aggressor)

Notable Biology

The Croagunk line comprises a series of large, bipedal, and very aggressive amphibians. Both members of the line, despite not being classified as a Water-type, are as agile in the water as they are on the land. Their bright blue and orange coloration serves two purposes- as a way of attracting mates, and, more imporatntly, to warn predators of the extremely lethal toxins secreted from their body (see Hazards). The sacs on the head (located either on the cheeks or throat, depending on the morph) can inflate to produce loud sounds that serve as a way of attracting mates. This is often accompanied by a vocal cry from the individual, and their calls can carry for over a kilometre. Another unique feature of the species is the fact that their teeth are almost perpetually bared in what appears to be a disturbing grin; this is part of their threat display which they continually broadcast to almost any creatures around.

Both members of the species are also extremely muscular and agile, and can move faster than a human being. When behaving agressively, a Toxicroak will continually shift it's weight from one foot to the other, in a manner comically reminiscient of a human boxer. A Croagunk's prefered method of attack is to leap into the air (mature Toxicroak can jump upwards of eight feet) before landing on the opponent and smothering it with thick layers of slime. Another notable featue of a Toxicroak are the two 'spurs' on either side of the fist. These spikes are actually hollow, and are filled with a numbing venom. When one of them makes contact, specialized muscles at the base of the wrist push the poisons into the victim's body, much in the same way as a hypodermic syringe. Coupled with blows powerful enough to destroy sheet metal and a poisonous skin, a Toxicroak is a force to be reckoned with.

Both species also posses an usual battery of senses that can, to some limited degree, predict the moves and skills of an opponent. This sense is not nearly as refined as those of a Psychic-type but it is still being investigated by researchers to determine exactly how it works.

Croagunk and Toxicroak are extremely territorial and aggressive. The level of violence depends on exactly what is threatening it, which may range from a simple threat display to a full-out attack. Because of this, the species is a common sight in the shady 'underground Leagues', where many people bet on matches, frequently between Fighting-types, that are usually far more brutal than official Leagues. The aggressive behaviour of this species has also drawn the attention of Team Galactic, who often equip their higher-ranking members with Croagunk.

Habitat

Croagunk and Toxicroak are happiest in warm, humid areas such as swamps or marshes. Mature Toxicroak often stake out a patch of swamp (usually about 100 square feet) as their territory, and will agressively chase out any and all creatures. A Toxicroak habitat also usually has what biologists refer to as a "perch"- a flat, dry area, often a lily pad or rocky outcrop- where the animal will rest, sleep, eat, and call. Croagunk, on the other ahnd, are migratory, and will move from place to place. They will frequently challenge Toxicroak with established territories- although these usually end in a loss for the hapless Pokémon. The largest concentration of Croagunk and Toxicroak today is in the Great Marsh of Sinnoh, where they can be caught or photographed.

Diet

Being carnivores, both species frequently lurk just below the surface, waiting for choice prey, commonly Marill or Wooper. The species can remain motionless for long periods of time, and one Toxicroak has been observed standing still for three hours while quietly stalking a Quagsire.

Hazards

Croagunk and Toxicroak are both covered with a thick, toxic slime that both moisturizes their skin and protects them from any predator foolish enough to attack. While ingesting or touching a Croagunk's skin secretions will only cause vomiting and nausea, a Toxicroak's venom can cause seizures, paralysis, or even death. It should also benoted that both members of the species are extremely territorial and will behave aggressively towards most any creature nearby, even members of their own species. It is recommended that only experienced Trainers catch one of these creatures, as they can prove to be extremely dangerous to the unwary.

Courting and Childrearing

When two Toxicroak of the opposite sex meet, ritualized combat will take place. This usually involves a threat display, followed by a mocko-fight using moves like Poison Jab or Force Palm. This combat can last for hours, after which point coupling takes place and the female is impregnated. For several months, the two will stay together; although upon laying the eggs the (smaller) female will leave, leaving the eggs in the care of the male. The eggs (usually 5-10 in a clutch) are laid carefully on the perch by the male, and he will guard them from most any threat with extreme violence. When the eggs, hatch, however, the young Croagunk are on their own- they are aggressively chased off from their father's territory and forced to live life alone.

Social Structure

Croagunk and Toxicroak act antagonistically to others of their own kind- they are uncomfortable in the presence of others and as such live most of their lives alone.

CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3263: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:22:33 PM

I never saw any Phallic Imagery in Palkia. Ever. Then I came to the Internet. Still can't see the Phallic Imagery. It just looks like a bipedal long-necked dinosaur of some kind. With wings and Shoulders of Doom

edited 16th Feb '11 6:22:41 PM by CalamityJane

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3264: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:29:03 PM

To some people, it's the long neck and round shoulders. I didn't see it until the internet pointed it out, and even then it's ridiculous and exaggerated.

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3265: Feb 16th 2011 at 6:32:32 PM

But yeah.

edited 16th Feb '11 6:33:44 PM by CalamityJane

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TracerBullet Guess Who...? from A Dark and Rainy Alley Since: Jan, 2011
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#3266: Feb 16th 2011 at 9:46:49 PM

@ Locoman:

It might just be me being nitpicky, but the diet that you described for Croagunk and Toxicroak seems remarkably uncharacteristic for an anuran. Also, you might be interested in the behavior of Croagunk and Toxicroak's RL analogues if you decide to flesh out the Hazards section a bit.

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#3267: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:11:32 PM

Considering that Croagunk and Toxicroak are much larger than their RL analogues, I don't think they'd be able to subsist on a diet of insects.

TracerBullet Guess Who...? from A Dark and Rainy Alley Since: Jan, 2011
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#3268: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:19:10 PM

Aren't the "insects" in the Poke-world also much larger than their RL analogues? As in "the size of car tires" larger?

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#3270: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:35:21 PM

If you are a frog:

  • Moves and is smaller than you: Food.
  • Moves and is larger than you: Threat.

Mouth size may even be irrelevant.

Also, I'd abstain for adding ANYTHING to an actual amphibian genus. They are getting torn apart, as they are overlumped, and, well, better make up one. And seeing diferent life stages as separate species is always going to make me cringe.

edited 17th Feb '11 1:36:31 PM by Eriorguez

CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3271: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:35:48 PM

I have a bit of a proposition for you guys. For about a week now, me, Anomalocaris and rmctagg have been more or less generating a ton of fluff for the Fanverse we have going on here over at a different thread. And in that thread, a whole lot of things happened that could be used to embellish articles, but I was wondering if the goings-on in that thread would be considered 'canon' to the 'Fanon' if you understand what I'm saying.

Er, let me rephrase that. Fluff has happened, might leak into articles. Okay or Not Okay?

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#3272: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:50:40 PM

^ I see no problem with that, this is the Fanon Pokedex after all.

^^ This takes place in an entirely different world with severly reduced biodiversity, so creating a similar-sounding name for a genus should be okay.

CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#3273: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:53:06 PM

Great! Still eating myself over whether or not to do the Palkia Article.

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#3274: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:57:59 PM

I say DO EET, but if you're going to be introducing fluff from this other thread into the articles, please let the rest of us know should you choose to include stuff to those we've written.

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#3275: Feb 17th 2011 at 1:59:57 PM

Addendum:

If you are a giant, extremely toxic frog capable of killing a man with your eyes closed:

  • Moves and is smaller than you: Food.

  • Moves and is larger than you: Kill it anyways.


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