Harry Potter

They exist in the setting but play no major role in the story.

They are one of the reasons Centaurs are classified as Beasts by the Ministry. When the Centaurs found out the Ministry considers Dark Creatures like Vampires as Beings, they refused to share the same designation. They chose to be considered Beasts instead.

Edited by M84 on May 20th 2022 at 10:59:24 PM

One with the especially punny name of Sanguini shows up at Slughorn’s party and Slughorn keeps having to drag him away from the female students.

That just sent a shiver down my spine.

Merlin's Beard, Slughorn.

TBF, Slughorn didn't invite him. He was there as a "plus one" guest of Eldred Worple. And it was Worple, not Slughorn, who had to keep Sanguini away from the students. Hilariously, he did it by giving him pasties instead.

Edited by M84 on May 20th 2022 at 11:46:37 PM

Given Voldie didn't really try recruiting them this means they're more trouble than they're worth or they're kinda wimpy as far as Dark Creatures go. And given his standards, it should(?) be the latter?

Is hard to said but it seen voldemorth was trying to get some magic being on is side, from gigant to others but Rowling kept all the wizard war stuff outside us so is hard to know.

Do we know if he did or didn't?

Well we did get sort of a roadmap of who he wanted to recruit. Dementors, giants and werewolves, sorta but really only Grayback.

Then again those groups seem to be the ones shunned by wizard society, maybe vampires are better off despite the dark creature thing.

Well, we know of Werewolves, Giants and Dementors, but those already appeared. So, who knows, we didn't ever meet an important vampire during the series.

Rowling has said she didn't do more with Vampires because she didn't think she could do the Eastern European stories they originate from justice since she was more familiar with British folklore.

A rare case of Rowling being sensitive about cultural appropriation.

If you make vampires a bigger thing, it might get people wondering why Voldemort doesn't just make himself a vampire if he wants to live forever.

Vampires don't actually seem to be immortal in the Harry Potter verse.

Edited by M84 on May 21st 2022 at 12:33:07 AM

Chances are he couldn’t “make” himself one, and are Harry Potter vampires immortal?

I wouldn’t be surprised if you need an intact soul to do it. Ya know, like how some stories require them to be virgins.

In this case you be virgins AND never kill someone until after you turn.

So I imagine ripping his soul apart cut off his chances of going vampire.

x2 Voldy would probably find the bunch of weaknesses and The Ageless to not be immortal enough.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on May 20th 2022 at 9:35:02 AM

It's not even clear if a Vampire or a Zombie (the two "Living Dead" Dark Creatures in the Harry Potter verse) were originally humans or are different races of Magical Creatures in their own right.

BTW, the reason Rowling never did more with zombies was because she grew up with "Thriller". To her, zombies will always be this:

Oh, right. Knew I should have looked it up, or just said “his companion.”

And an odd one, considering no one else cares about that w.r.t. vampires, as evidenced by our huge page about how vampires can be whatever the creator wants.

@ fredhot: They're mentioned but never show up in person. I heard a fan theory about horcrux creation on Youtube that suggests horcrux users are the equivalent of vampires.

As I've mentioned, I'm pretty sure JK didn't actually think of an idea for what exactly is done to create horcruxes and the "something so disgusting her editor almost threw up" is pure Kayfabe in order to make a Nothing Is Scarier situation

One does show up in the books once. He just doesn't play any major role. Heck, there were a whole bunch of posts mentioning him just now.

And Horcrux users aren't similar to Vampires. Vampires are actually accepted to a limited degree in Wizard society. Horcrux users otoh are almost universally condemned, even by those who aren't against using the Dark Arts in general.

Edited by M84 on May 21st 2022 at 10:53:10 PM

I guess even Dark Wizards are really squirmy about murder.

Not the murder part so much as the "permanently rip your own soul apart" thing.

Ripping an essential part of yourself apart like that would make most people think twice or thrice about it, and the kind of immortality that it gives you (reducing you to a parasitic wraith) wouldn't be desirable to many people. And Voldemort apparently created something about the process to create a new body, so anyone who'd create them would be doomed to a pretty shitty existence.

Voldemort called it "an old piece of dark magic", meaning he didn't invent the potion. It's possible this was even the potion previous Hocrux users relied on to restore their bodies.

Voldemort did apparently invent the potion that granted him that weak temporary body though. While there were obvious downsides, it did at least give him the ability to wield a wand and it was only a stopgap measure anyway until he got the ingredients for the revival potion.

The Sorcerer's Stone's Elixir of Life could also have restored his body, which is why he wanted it in the first book. If he had the Stone and his Horcruxes, he would have been as close to Complete Immortality as is possible in this verse.

Edited by M84 on May 23rd 2022 at 12:29:54 AM

Can a Youtube video be a horcrux?

Well, The Ring had a videotape as a Soul Jar...

Given the complete debacle she made out of Native American folklore, it’s definitely a surprising bit of self awareness from her.

Though iirc it might not have mattered much anyway. There are vampire myths from like everywhere, including Western Europe. I know there are Greek vampires, and A brief search even brings up vampire stories from Ireland and Scotland, which is pretty close to Britain to say the least.