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FrozenWolf2 Avatar of War from Have you seen me?
Avatar of War
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:06:50 AM

Kairi isn't unloved in Japan last I checked and if fairly liked for what she is

unlike say in the west where people like to stress over the character Kairi could be to the point the western fanbase expects things

Remember East and West have VERY different standards and expectations how characters develop and react

Essentially the Japanese are alot more forgiving of the fact Kairi is a Satellite Character and like her for her design.

"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
Weirdguy149 The Shellfish Professor from Kanto University Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The Shellfish Professor
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:28:00 AM

Axel and Ven also got screwed over.

If you want an expert on the dynamics of water, this is your guy.
Karxrida Double Breaker from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Double Breaker
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:28:23 AM

The final piece of the orchestra was accompanied by a montage of Sora and Kairi scenes.

So.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:44:25 AM

I mean it's kind of weird to assume what is or isn't in the DLC just from a minute-long teaser.

This song needs more love.
HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:53:06 AM

[up]

That’s actually fair enough.

Once again, wokka wokka!
Mizerous Fallen Maiden from Remnant Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Fallen Maiden
Jun 9th 2019 at 10:18:05 AM

  • Xemnas voice* Good tidings friends. Today is a momentus day. We finally can play as the Princess of Heart Kai-. Oh, I see. Xion is the more worth character then.

Burning with revenge.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas
Professional Forum Ninja
Jun 9th 2019 at 11:11:47 AM

I could see Kairi joining Riku and Sora at some point in the DLC, same with Terra for Aqua and Ventus, since they have the Lea, Roxas, and Xion team.

So I'll make a resolution, that I'll never make another one, just enjoy this ride on my trip around the sun, until its done.
fredhot16 from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Jun 9th 2019 at 11:28:43 AM

Remember East and West have VERY different standards and expectations how characters develop and react

In what ways? And how?

Because this has been brought forth once or twice so I want elaboration for why or how this is a thing in what ways.

As for me, I'm still holding hope for a Sora, Riku, and Kairi brawl with the main antagonist.

At this point, I'll take one with the Master of Masters or whoever he is.

She has a Keyblade! She has training! You have no reason to keep her from getting in the cool fights!

Seeing her pop her Keyblade into existence was the one thing that got me hype in that trailer!

Edited by fredhot16 on Jun 9th 2019 at 11:33:07 AM

I have many potential ideas to write about but only eight slots left.
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:02:30 PM

So, what can we reasonably extrapolate from this? Oblivion, at the very least, seems a likely possibility. And a bit unrelated, but Oathkeeper's Formchange had very fluid, quick combos akin to Second Form (and as opposed to, say, Boom Hammer), so it looks a possible favorite for high-level play. As for the playable characters, Roxas so far is the only new one, but I'm gonna go on a limb and say Xion might get one too. I'm curious about Roxas' options too, since he uses quite a few special attacks akin to limits as opposed to just plain magic and combos, maybe it'll be like Limit Form in KH 2 and have limits in place of magic spells.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:22:24 PM

Not sure why no one is willing to explain it, but for the most part the whole Action Girl isn't nearly as clamor over there East than it is over here West.

Not entirely sure if this is the best trope to best explain so anyone feel free to correct me on that.

Yamato Nadeshiko


Anyways, this DLC looks like it's going to address some of my main gripes with the ending for KH 3.

Confession time:

I didn't play all the Kingdom Hearts game but I did watched them which is why one of the biggest issues I have KH 3 is how Sora is the main focus. After all those games it just doesn't feel like Kingdom Hearts Sora anymore so you should been allow to play as Riku, Aqua, etc from the start. That being said, the DLC is being release in winter? That's nearly an entire year from when the game got release!

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Jun 9th 2019 at 8:45:59 PM

I can see how not playing them might've skewed your perception a bit, because Kingdom Hearts is very much Sora's story, I would say. Just in terms of scope, the numbered games are a much bigger deal than the spinoffs, never mind Sora basically saving the multiverse in each of those. From the non-numbered games, COM and 3D feature Sora (and are coincidentally essential to the mainline plot in terms of actual story development), Days is (when you egt down to it) a side-story featuring a few Organization members that's fairly tangential to the main conflict, BBS is the prequel that establishes the main bad guy and his motivation, 0.2 is another mostly superfluous side-story, and coded is coded.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Jun 9th 2019 at 9:01:24 PM

I'm going to take any generalizations on Japanese fandom with a large grain of salt, unless you can point to actual comments on Kairi made by Japanese people.

agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Jun 9th 2019 at 9:11:42 PM

Very true, but BBS establish Mickey has a close connection the BBS trio & I imagine he's got some personal beef Xenohart because of that. Or maybe that was just Aqua, I forgot. But BBS trio most certainly have something against Xenohart. I also feel like Roxas should've been more involve not necessarily with Xenohart but with Xemnas considering everything that happen in Days.


[up] Are you talking to me? Because I should've also mention it's been years since the last time I've checked about that.

Edited by agent-trunks on Jun 9th 2019 at 9:17:07 AM

Karxrida Double Breaker from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Double Breaker
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:36:51 PM

Memes within memes await us.

This all could have been avoided if Xehanort was allowed to ride Thunder Mountain when he was younger.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Exposition Dragon
Jun 11th 2019 at 6:41:40 PM

Quick question. In the re-Mind trailer, people are talking about MoM meeting Baby Nort.

Are we sure that's MoM? I figured it was Luxu in a pre-Braig body. Xehanort's like a hundred years old and Braig's like thirty so it's probable that Luxu's been playing him since before "Braig" was a thing.

The greatest trick prejudice ever pulled was to convince the world it did not exist.
Jun 11th 2019 at 6:49:38 PM

His gestures are Mo M. The same kindnof gestures that made it obvious he was in the Secret Ending, which Ultimania confirmed later.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 11th 2019 at 6:50:01 AM

Weirdguy149 The Shellfish Professor from Kanto University Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The Shellfish Professor
Jun 11th 2019 at 6:50:51 PM

Yeah, Xigbar tends to act normal in terms of body language while MoM acts like a big goofy kid.

If you want an expert on the dynamics of water, this is your guy.
Jun 11th 2019 at 7:43:05 PM

[up][up][up]it could be Mo M but only Mo M uses such exaggerated hand movement except when xehanorts milk their giant cow. actually is this where he gets it from?

TheAirman from Congratulations! Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Jun 11th 2019 at 7:52:15 PM

Luxu explicitly only made contact after jacking the Braig body.

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Gilphon Trustworthy from The Third Sound Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Trustworthy
Jun 11th 2019 at 7:53:20 PM

It's worth noting that, for whatever reason, Old Xehanort is the only one who does those weird finger movements. Xemnas does big, showy arm gestures, Ansem keeps his arms crossed in front of his chest, and Terranort and YX don't noticeable talk with their hands at all.

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
Jun 11th 2019 at 8:11:34 PM

It's a personality thing. Xemnas has a penchant for being even more melodramatic than most of the rest of the cast, Heartless-Xehanort's trying to flex on y'all to assert dominance, Terranort barely even exists, Kiddo Xehanort sounds more dead inside than his Nobody (who apparently took until his KH 3 fight to start regrowing his heart, and thus actually was dead inside), and Master Xehanort is actually enjoying himself in damn near every scene he's in.

but HOW?
Gilphon Trustworthy from The Third Sound Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Trustworthy
Jun 11th 2019 at 8:33:04 PM

Xemnas didn't admit that he had a heart until the end of KH3. In fact he probably had one all along; I certainly don't believe that a being without emotions could possibly have Xemnas' impressive capacity for melodrama.

He definitely had a heart by DDD; the method of time travel they use requires you send your heart through, which obviously can't be done if you don't have one.

By all of that is a digression. I guess the real point is that while I'm sceptical of idea of disguising pre-Briag Luxu and MoM through body language, (serious guys, Xigbar is full of cheeky body language. Remember how we all thought that MoM was gonna turn out to be some iteration of Xigbar before KH3, because of how similar their body language speech patterns were?) the fact the secret reports say that Luxu didn't make contact until he was Braig is more persuasive. That would, after all, be a very strange thing for him to lie about in a personal journal.

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
HamburgerTime All things pure and good. from Garamsythe Sewer Relationship Status: I know
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows?
Formerly G.G.
Jun 11th 2019 at 9:08:09 PM

Apparently no. Braig and Xigbar was an illusion created Luxu to fool Xehanort. I really didn't like that reveal but it is something that had been built up for years....sort of.

Edited by GAP on Jun 11th 2019 at 11:25:39 AM

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