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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5926: Mar 24th 2019 at 10:30:04 PM

No, it was never outright confirmed that Nero's mother was a prostitute.

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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5927: Mar 24th 2019 at 10:35:19 PM

Typically This type of plot development is designed for a character like Vergil whose persona seems at odds with the idea of having sex... with someone other then himself

The Mother is a non-entity she exists cause of the biological fact Nero has to have a mother to be a Human/Demon Hybrid

Now you could expand it a couple of ways

IE Vergil went to Fortuna to learn about Sparda but ran into one of Sparda's many many rivals who hold a grudge

Except unlike Beowolf, This guy has his wits about him and is one of the few guys that hands Vergil a legit asskicking only fending him off by givingh im a wound that forces him to retreat

Vergil beaten collapses in back alley only remember the Demon's words that 'Strength means everything' if only you were your Father's equal

Then a kind soul finds a half dead Vergil and nurses him back to health, Vergil gets real close to that epiphany moment especially after the sex till the Demon comes back to finish the job

Vergil wins the rematch but everything around him is destroyed and thinks Nero's Mother has been killed in the struggle ergo Reinforcing Vergil belief in strength above all only to reveal she had survived but long after Vergil had left in despair.

Granted that just fleshes out the circumstances... Nero's mom is still basically a non entity

Maybe if you wanted Nero's mom to be a more active character

Maybe its just assumed she was a simple townsfolk but was actually another demon hunter from an order not based around Sparda

Make her a more [[Video Game/Bloodborne Lady]] [[Video Game/Nioh Maria]] or Emma type, Her and Vergil clash thinking the other one is the Demon they are hunting for various reasons and their fighting turns into flirting and then legit attraction on Vergil's part

Her order wants to mix her bloodline with Sparda's to create a more powerful heir... so she sleeps with Vergil slightly out of obligation of duty and legit attraction to the Doofus but then can't bring herself to just give her child to the life she has grown to resent... Leaves Nero at the Orphanage and goes off to pull a Kiritsugu on her own Order

that way you can leave it open whether she succeeded or not... with the maximum awkwardness of her showing up alive when Vergil is visitng Nero and Kyrie

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Mar 24th 2019 at 12:35:47 PM

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#5928: Mar 24th 2019 at 11:57:28 PM

So, those of you that have played Dm C 5, what do you think of the nonlinear way the plot is revealed? And the way it impacts gameplay (i.e., doing a mission as one character, and then later on doing one that happens before the first one that shows how that place got the way it was in the first mission)?

FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5929: Mar 25th 2019 at 1:48:32 AM

It leads to a few inconsistency where its very clear the reveal is being kept from the audience and not the characters

IE V and Dante referring to Urizen as... well Urizen in private even though the two of them both know its Vergil especially after V tells Trish is weird they keep the facade going

but it does allow for a mostly smooth narrative instead of missing bits and pieces

However it does kinda lead into Muscle memory issues with the constant character swapping ... Its not as bad as say DMC 4 but it gets kinda close with like 4 Dante chapters right in row

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#5930: Mar 25th 2019 at 2:20:44 AM

I justify it as Dante trying subtly to keep Nero out of the matter. Seriously though, Dante is pretty Enemy Mine over Vergil, and always has been. I think he wanted to nip the matter in the bud as quickly as possible without involving anyone else.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5931: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:10:35 AM

The Only One Allowed to Defeat You is the term your looking for... when someone is obsessed with defeating/killing another

Enemy Mine implies The Two work together

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Mar 25th 2019 at 5:11:07 AM

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#5932: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:24:07 AM

[up] You're damn right.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5933: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:27:21 AM

The funny thing is that the rivalry between Dante and Vergil was initially rather one-sided on Vergil's part. It was pretty obviously a case of Vergil projecting a lot of issues on to Dante and deciding to attack his brother as a way of dealing with said issues.

Dante had his own issues too of course, but his animosity with Vergil was rooted mostly in the fact that Vergil keeps fucking shit up. Dragging Dante and who knows how many innocent bystanders into the mess.

Edited by M84 on Mar 25th 2019 at 6:27:46 PM

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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5934: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:46:46 AM

Bloody Palace endings leaked

Let the memes begin...

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5935: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:51:09 AM

So Dante completes his ownage of Vergil by wearing his hairstyle better than Vergil does, Nero becomes a Sith Lord, and V reveals his true identity as Ben Solo.

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#5936: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:55:41 AM

Fun fact, apparently if you use the taunt, V's Cane does 50 damage per poke 'V's Cane usually only does 1 damage if the enemy isn't ready to be finished off' after wards and keeps the purple glow... Dante's hair STAYS slicked back after using the taunt and Nero hood stays up and eyes stay glowing

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Mar 25th 2019 at 5:56:42 AM

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#5937: Mar 25th 2019 at 3:58:23 AM

"All DMC 5 cutscenes but Dante's hair is slicked back, Nero is wearing his hood, and V's cane is glowing."

Edited by UltraWanker on Mar 25th 2019 at 3:59:10 AM

FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5938: Mar 25th 2019 at 4:01:40 AM

V keeps the glow/buff apparently as long as you don't get hit possibly Devil Trigger, don't know about Dante or Nero

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Mar 25th 2019 at 6:02:14 AM

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#5939: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:09:46 AM

Nero, calm the fuck down

¡PONLE QUE DIGA!:"¡HUMONGOSAURIO HASTA LA MUERTE!"
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#5940: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:17:53 AM

Nero:FUCK YOU!

Edited by GoldenKaos on Mar 25th 2019 at 5:18:17 PM

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5941: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:19:16 AM

POWAH UNLIMITED POWAH!

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5942: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:21:32 AM

Just as long as Nero doesn't start talking about sand to Kyrie. He's already got the hood and the mechanical hand after all.

Edited by M84 on Mar 26th 2019 at 1:22:37 AM

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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#5943: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:24:15 AM

Nonsense Nero grew his back... Anakin just didn't use the force hard enough!

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5944: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:25:49 AM

[up]Funnily enough, in the now non-canon EU, Anakin tried that after being put in the suit. But because he relied on the Dark Side to heal himself, the moment he felt a bit of joy when it started to work, it would immediately fail. The Dark Side and happy thoughts don't mix.

Edited by M84 on Mar 26th 2019 at 1:26:22 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#5945: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:34:49 AM

Oh God Nero is gonna be telling Dante he has the high-ground now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5946: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:36:19 AM

At that point the comparison breaks down since both Dante and Nero can fly.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5947: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:37:33 AM

You underestimate Dante's new power.

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#5948: Mar 25th 2019 at 10:47:25 AM

ONLY A DEMON DEALS IN ABSOLUTES

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5949: Mar 25th 2019 at 11:02:26 AM

"The demon side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural."

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#5950: Mar 25th 2019 at 4:02:44 PM

Why does everything always become Star Wars?


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